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Stalker-NSDQ
06-13-2007, 12:54 AM
I desperately tried to get either my gold TITAN ATTACK or TITAN DEFENSIVE BADGE. Unfortunely it seemed every TITAN server I played on today removed the capabilities of TITAN MOVEMENT. WTF IS GOING ON ? Using the TITAN GUNS gives me always plenty of kills on the ground, maybe making my life for the DEFENSIVE BADGE easier.
Any tips from the fellow soldiers out there how to get those suckers smarter ?
THX :salute:
Micster
06-13-2007, 01:37 AM
Um, you have two choices IMO.
1. Move to Australia. Here there is always Titan movement usually.
2. Make sure the baddies have APCs near your Titan so they can keep podding up and you can keep killing them. Gold Defence is easy, but Gold Attack is a little harder, but keep trying.
jojobiz
06-13-2007, 01:48 AM
i for one welcome the no titan movement trend.
-no 2 titans crowding like freaking sardines and lagging everybody to hell and back.
-no titan gun spamming (especially popular now with the +2 titan attack bonus glitch not yet fixed)
-no idiots shooting the titan AA guns at each other's shields and seriously lagging everything till the server crashes.
Lofty
06-13-2007, 03:08 AM
Using the TITAN GUNS gives me always plenty of kills on the ground, maybe making my life for the DEFENSIVE BADGE easier.
That is a glitch and you should not abuse it as such. The way you are MEANT to get the badge is by actually defending/attacking the titan.
When the perfect round comes along (lots of defenders/attackers hanging around the corridors) take the opportunity.
tagging daggers
06-13-2007, 04:17 AM
most servers i play on cancel titan movment too:laugh:
UNATCOII
06-13-2007, 04:42 AM
Titan mode in BF2142 is over.
If you didn't get your Titan badges before the NS, you can basically kiss getting them goodbye (or deal with places like Timeless Titan, which has to be a VPS server, as it's so doggly laggy, without the Titans moved even).
Truly sad that within 8 months of release a game was destroyed. First, reduce Titan mode from 64 to 48 (the game clearly was made for 64 players, anything less is half the enjoyment). Second, allow the exploits and incredible lag to go on for months, despite the reduction of players per server, causing a mass exodus to Conquest. Third, change the weapons on Conquest to only POed those who left Titan mode.
It's no wonder why players are eagerly waiting for other games.
LBraden
06-13-2007, 05:27 AM
I agree with you there UnatcoII, BF2142 is dead, it was killed off by EA wanting the game NOW, and DICE just more concerned in keeping their contract with EA to get money, I still like 2142, but not for the gameplay anymore.
Killerus
06-13-2007, 05:51 AM
I agree with you there UnatcoII, BF2142 is dead, it was killed off by EA wanting the game NOW, and DICE just more concerned in keeping their contract with EA to get money, I still like 2142, but not for the gameplay anymore.
i dont know what your smoking but 2142 is far from dead.
I have titans disabled on my server because it puts the focus back on gameplay. Everytime i enable them they end up in the middle of the map 2 feet from each other with spam flying everywhere. Another thing that is bad about titan movement is you get all the gun whores that join as commander, move the titan to the middle and resign. Alteast now if someone is commanding you know they really want to and not doing it to spam the guns for easy kills.
About a week ago i allowed movement to see if i missed it. That lasted one round. :laugh:
.reZ- ViolatorX
06-13-2007, 07:11 AM
Anything with at least 10-12k people playing a week cant even be considered as dead.... and there are still dozens of titan servers
Titan only really gets laggy when people shoot the aa guns from one side to the other, if FF is on just tk them till they grasp the concept of how annoying it is :)
Defense:Use the titan guns, and wait for people to pod into the deck/or if inside pk rocket the upper corridors...
Attack:Blow up the ground cannons/aa guns, this can give you 8 attack points.. Easiest way is to lurk around the decks fo the other 22...
Most ive ever got on attack is 64 and Defense 79 so you should be able to get 30 quite easily...
winsrp
06-13-2007, 07:25 AM
want a quick tip on how to attack an defend ...
#1... you can have a fellow friend use a gunship, or better yet a transport, and fly you on the back of the titan, either one, that way youll get lots and lots of kills.
#2.. for defense, you can park a gunship on the back deck, on the little slowpe on second floor, and wait till guys pod down on their beacons... lots of points and lots of laughs
#3.. leard to place apm, rdx, and use the pk-rocket, i have dont 30 kill either defending or attacking with only the pk-rocket...
Best scenario to get them, try to find a 48 player server, with preatty much even teams, youll get it in no time.
Stalker-NSDQ
06-13-2007, 09:51 AM
That is a glitch and you should not abuse it as such. The way you are MEANT to get the badge is by actually defending/attacking the titan.
When the perfect round comes along (lots of defenders/attackers hanging around the corridors) take the opportunity.
Well I actually didn't know that there is such a glitch. I just used the TITAN guns to destroy incoming APC's and vehicles.
Also to the other reply: I play Commander and do my job. I hate it when people just move the titan and then resign. I still need my awards :p
Also the AA Gun spamming sure is annoying.
RMcLeod
06-13-2007, 09:59 AM
Attack:Blow up the ground cannons/aa guns, this can give you 8 attack points.. Easiest way is to lurk around the decks fo the other 22...
I can't believe people still think this counts towards your Titan Attack badge it Doesn't! And has been proven so many many times on this forum!
For Titan defense, just sit on your upper deck and kill the enemy as they pod in, Support with the Clark and Sentry Drone are great for this. If the enemy put down a spawn beacon don't destroy it!
I only got my Titan attack last week and it was completely circumstantial, they were defending heavily I just kept podding over and getting a couple of kills each time. Again using Clark and Sentry Drone.
UNATCOII
06-13-2007, 10:00 AM
About a week ago i allowed movement to see if i missed it. That lasted one round. :laugh:
And then you wonder why folks have a bad opinion of server admins? Your little ditty illustrates why Titan turned to crap.
Titans were designed to move. The game isn't a game without them moving -- engineers can't get repair points; gunners can't protect silos (and defend it from APC poddings); AAs can't destroy the transports and gunships that zoom by.
Not moving Titans have killed BF2142 as it's the premier reason to play BF2142. It's not WWII, it's not Vietnam, it's nearly 200 years in the future.
Anything with at least 10-12k people playing a week cant even be considered as dead.... and there are still dozens of titan servers
And nearly ALL disabled Titan movement.
Which means it's but a Conquest map, not Titan anymore.
Which means it's not worth playing it anymore -- because the true uniqueness of Titan mode is gone.
You guys ruined it, and I'm happy that BF2142 is shot because of it.
There's better games coming very shortly, anyway (nevermind DX3 is in the pipeline....yippie!).
.reZ- ViolatorX
06-13-2007, 11:08 AM
I can't believe people still think this counts towards your Titan Attack badge it Doesn't! And has been proven so many many times on this forum!
Odd i got my silver by piluming the aa guns and killing around 7 people... has it wow I read about 1/50 topics in this forum.....
And then you wonder why folks have a bad opinion of server admins? Your little ditty illustrates why Titan turned to crap.
Titans were designed to move. The game isn't a game without them moving -- engineers can't get repair points; gunners can't protect silos (and defend it from APC poddings); AAs can't destroy the transports and gunships that zoom by.
Not moving Titans have killed BF2142 as it's the premier reason to play BF2142. It's not WWII, it's not Vietnam, it's nearly 200 years in the future.
And nearly ALL disabled Titan movement.
Which means it's but a Conquest map, not Titan anymore.
Which means it's not worth playing it anymore -- because the true uniqueness of Titan mode is gone.
You guys ruined it, and I'm happy that BF2142 is shot because of it.
There's better games coming very shortly, anyway (nevermind DX3 is in the pipeline....yippie!).
Actually from playing in both, some people dislike the moving as they dont like to be shot by big plasma guns, personally I prefer them moving.. I wouldnt say the uniqueness has gone, the best bit is the infiltration or the defense of it.. kinda like the old UT scenerios...
It seems to be about 50-50 though if the net code was improved id expect to see more with the move on, dice didnt do any favors when their "fix" of the coding seemed to make it laggier(well the AA guns anyway) which puts people off, then again I stopped playing bf2 when I leveled up 6 times in 30 seconds after one of their patchs...
Knowing EA they probably only gave them a week to come up with something...
I think the solution would be to limit the aa guns say to 500 bullets and maybe each gun to say 50 would help lag it up less and maybe make these server admins stick the move back on...
Merlin
06-13-2007, 11:16 AM
Just hang around on the top of either thier or your own titan. Usually the enemy is concentrating on thrying to get down the vents, while they do that you shoot them.
RMcLeod
06-13-2007, 11:59 AM
Odd i got my silver by piluming the aa guns and killing around 7 people... has it wow I read about 1/50 topics in this forum.....
Well you obviously didn't read this one!
http://www.totalbf2142.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21743&highlight=titan+attack+gold&page=4
Updated test, completed just minutes ago. Here's the result of two rounds I played with a new alt soldier:
http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/2908/theroundmoundab7.th.gif (http://img74.imageshack.us/my.php?image=theroundmoundab7.gif)
Note the 6 Titan Guns Destroyed stat and the 0 Titan Attack Score stat. Looks like they didn't change it, that destroying Titan guns still doesn't give you Titan Attack points for the badge. Although I suppose the argument could be made that the 0 stat above doesn't mean anything, so the real test would be using an alt to destroy 8 Titan guns in one round, see if he gets the Bronze Titan Combat Excellence badge. The rounds I played in just now no one was repairing them so I never got the chance to try.
Well, I just did that with that same alt - got 2 Titan Destructor pins (for blowing the guns 8 times, 4 times for each pin) in one round but no Bronze Titan Combat Excellence badge. Case closed.
The big difference is destroying Titan guns gives you a "Titan Attack SCORE", 4 of these nets you the pin. Killing people on the enemy Titan gives you a "Titan Attack BONUS", 8, 15, 30 for the badge.
Yraen
06-13-2007, 01:34 PM
Titan Defense is easy, find an enemy squad beacon and camp it. Cheap, but that should teach them to put a beacon on your Titan! :p (That and everytime I've tried to destroy a beacon, it wouldn't destroy :o )
Trippet
06-13-2007, 01:54 PM
Always nice to see one's work get quoted - thanks RMcLeod. Glad to help clear that up.
One caveat: I posted that only about a week before the 1.25 patch came out, so the chance always exists that they changed the way it works with that patch and didn't announce it. I don't care enough anymore about trying to get the Gold to be motivated to go try my tests again. Anyone else care to step up and do exactly what I did in the linked thread?
RMcLeod
06-13-2007, 02:10 PM
Yeah, I'll try it with an alt and see what happens.
RottnJP
06-14-2007, 03:07 PM
FWIW, our Titans still move. We've been running pretty smoothly, so haven't disabled movement yet. As long as idiots don't spam the Titan shields with the Titan AA guns, we do pretty well even when they're close.
Personally, I'd like to see another Titan movement option that keeps them a certain distance from each other, or something. Titan movement makes a big difference in that game mode, and killing it *completely* is overkill IMO. But, if "all or nothing" are your only options, and you need the performance, I can understand why some admins have had to do it.
So anyway, feel free to stop by and have at it. We tend to be active in the evenings Eastern time, GMT-5. (We're all working stiffs.) Be warned, our FF is ON, so be careful with your RDX. RDX spamming teamkills will get you auto-kicked, and manually banned if the behavior persists.
Titan defense badge is pretty straight-forward. Once the Titans are podding distance the stage is set. Then you just need a good even battle to keep everyone's interest, not too many defenders, etc. It'll come on the right round if you're doing your part.
Attack gold, can't comment on, since I have yet to really try for it.
ICE*T
06-14-2007, 04:26 PM
I offer to execute offending titan aa gun spammers if enough people complain about them ; ******* I hereby sentence you to death for spamming the aa guns and lagging us all, normally does the trick....
RottnJP
06-14-2007, 05:20 PM
LOL- Have to try that- I normally have to switch sides & go see who it is, which I don't like having to do. I could try:
"Admin: PAC AA Spammer, you have hereby been sentenced to death! A Fatwah is decreed on whomever be spamming Titan AA, and a TK jihad is hereby ordered!"
...Think it'd work? :p
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