180 bunny hop

[ICE*T]

:DThis is a new move Ive been developing its called the 180 bunny hop

Taking fire from behind ?dont jus use the mouse to swing around - jump first and perform a 180 degree turn in the air , u will swing around much faster thus suprising the enemy mowing him down with a qick volley of fire....By the way this would be a valid technique in a `real lifecombat' situation so I dont want any whinging....

[Namakan]

bunny hoppers :shakehead:

[Jaazzy]

bunny hoppers :shakehead:

I could not say it better:salute:

[THEONEANDONLY]

Lol..

[=)BiT(=AutoFodder]

OMG you must be the first person to think of that ever!

bunny-hopping is lame, people only use it to even up the field because the clever player got the drop on them

[mole]

Bunny Hoppers :nod:

[Lunien]

I don't see how you would be faster in real life, weighed down with your ammo and guns and other crap, jumping and THEN turning...while you could just turn. You take time to jump you know..especially if you're carrying your gear.

[RMcLeod]

By the way this would be a valid technique in a `real lifecombat' situation so I dont want any whinging....

Yup, jumping into the air, performing a pirouette, aiming an assault rifle and carrying 20lb+ in equipment whilst being shot at is viable in real life :laugh:

If the enemy gets the drop on you in real life you're dead!

[mafia_boy]

Hes been watching Watership down too much eh! lol

[MasterAlex]

.By the way this would be a valid technique in a `real lifecombat' situation so I dont want any whinging....
ARE YOU KIDDING?!?!?!?!?


No soldier jumps up in the air and spins around. :shakehead::shakehead::shakehead::shakehead:

[UNATCOII]

No soldier jumps up in the air and spins around. :shakehead::shakehead::shakehead::shakehead:

'nuf said!

[RaliegH]

Uggh - this is why I play on servers like TG with rules...LOL

:shakehead:

[Fumi]

OMG you must be the first person to think of that ever!

bunny-hopping is lame, people only use it to even up the field because the clever player got the drop on them
Just a couple rhetorical questions? How clever does one have to be to look at the mini-map and recognize that the red diamonds are the meanies? Since when did jumping become out of style? Is this really new?

Seems that some guys are better suited to Civil War games whereby 25 guys stand up and face another 25 guys, then proceed to all fire musket balls at each other. Sounds fun.

[MikeyC]

:DThis is a new move Ive been developing its called the 180 bunny hop

Taking fire from behind ?dont jus use the mouse to swing around - jump first and perform a 180 degree turn in the air , u will swing around much faster thus suprising the enemy mowing him down with a qick volley of fire....By the way this would be a valid technique in a `real lifecombat' situation so I dont want any whinging....


I pretty much garantee that the instant you think you're being shot at in RL, you're going to DROP, not hop up and down like a freeking moron.

Just sayin.

[nemesis908]

:DThis is a new move Ive been developing its called the 180 bunny hop

Taking fire from behind ?dont jus use the mouse to swing around - jump first and perform a 180 degree turn in the air , u will swing around much faster thus suprising the enemy mowing him down with a qick volley of fire....By the way this would be a valid technique in a `real lifecombat' situation so I dont want any whinging....

Yeah i can just imagine soldiers in real life taking one or two bullets in their back and thinking...

"Now's the time to test out my new technique!"

Jumping into the air, spinning round 180 to face a barrage of oncoming bullets, taking aim with their gun and dispatching the enemy.

Developing, what do you mean developing? You had to practice turning 180 degrees and shooting? Was the multi-tasking too much for you to process at first?

WHAT FU(KING WORLD DO YOU LIVE IN?

[Ins4n3]

OMG you must be the first person to think of that ever!

bunny-hopping is lame, people only use it to even up the field because the clever player got the drop on them

Who cares? Everyone does it and anyone who says they don't is a liar. Playing the BF2 series, the bunny hop becomes a habit reaction for everyone.

[nemesis908]

Who cares? Everyone does it and anyone who says they don't is a liar. Playing the BF2 series, the bunny hop becomes a habit reaction for everyone.

No it doesnt, only morons bunny hop.

I played BF2 for a long time prior to 2142 and not ONCE have i bunny hopped. Bunny hoppers are players of limited skill and intelligence.

Thus disproving your shoddy opinion.

[Cerulean Muerto]

Warning: Philosophy Content Follows
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I don't like bunny hoppers. But I admit to it when I come around a wall and there you are and I am in the middle of reloading my slow-*** Clark. Many of us choose NOT to use available aspects/glitches/exploits in the game because we don't see it as fun to skirt the black hole of cheating.

However: it's a GAME. It's not reality. It's not supposed to be reality (yeah, like you could have Titans, and hover tanks, but your guns still shoot bullets). It strikes me as much the same argument as drugs/steroids/etc. in professional sports. Good god, we all say it's terrible, but we can't wait for Barry Bonds to break the HR record, even when we can be pretty sure MOST of those HR's that he's already hit were probably aided by being "on the juice". It's a nod and wink, and a look the other way. It's condoned in every aspect of life, either tacitly, or by the way laws are passed (pork-filled amendments anyone?). Either EA should design these problems out of the game entirely (holding breath... turning blue... eyesight failing.... gahhhh!), or we all have to learn to live with it. We don't have to like it - hell, I can't stand being spawncamped, roofcamped, baseraped, RDX spammers, APM spammers, and on and on. But that's the game. I could either learn these techniques myself and so join the ranks of those I despise; or I can take the high ground, which I usually do, and eschew the use of these techniques. Sure, my K/D ratio sucks (.78 anyone? That knife badge came from playing for 2 hours on a 64 player Camp Gib server and going knife the whole time. ). And I have 2 purple hearts. (from that Camp Gib server, that's what my knife badge cost me). And I'm relatively sure that EA would have to keep stats until 2142 in real life for me to ever become Supreme Commander. But I do feel good when I realize that, n00bzor that I am, I have gotten every badge and rank by playing "honorably", playing with a "my squad/team comes before my individual points" attitude, and concentrating on having fun. If a server is filled with hoppers, haxx0rs, spammers, etc., I'll just leave. There are plenty of other places to play. I don't eat at McDonalds, I don't drink cheap tequila, and I don't waste time getting my knickers in a twist over people who play a GAME that I like, in a way I find deplorable. I just move on... because life is too damn short.

<<climbs down off soapbox, finds only 48 cents in the cup>>

[SgtPeper68]

bunny hoppers :shakehead:

Here here!

[=)BiT(=AutoFodder]

Just a couple rhetorical questions? How clever does one have to be to look at the mini-map and recognize that the red diamonds are the meanies? Since when did jumping become out of style? Is this really new?
i know they were rhetorical, but:
1. Obviously cleverer than the person doing the bunny-hopping
2. Since forever, it's never been in style in this game
3. No, who said it was?


Seems that some guys are better suited to Civil War games whereby 25 guys stand up and face another 25 guys, then proceed to all fire musket balls at each other. Sounds fun.

just like repeatedly tapping spacebar is fun?

maybe my post was a little OTT, but bunny-hoppers just annoy me

[dontsh000t]

how does a reallife person turn WHILE jumping anw? wouldn't you need to exert some opposite force to turn, care of the Newton bloke? =D

[Lofty]

how does a reallife person turn WHILE jumping anw? wouldn't you need to exert some opposite force to turn, care of the Newton bloke? =D

Throw your gun away, that takes care of the hoptwist, then all you have to worry about is when you land :)

[KC-10]

To be honest, I do jump. Whenever I use my Clark, I will jump once and dive to the ground, so that they have no time to react. A single jump is not bunnyhopping. Jumping more than once, will qualify, and the people who do this non-stop, REALLY annoy me.

[Fumi]

No it doesnt, only morons bunny hop.

I played BF2 for a long time prior to 2142 and not ONCE have i bunny hopped. Bunny hoppers are players of limited skill and intelligence.

Thus disproving your shoddy opinion.
Only a moron would stand there and get shot when he has other options at his finger tips to avoid getting shot.

The only players "limited in skill" are those that can't hit a target which is unable to fire back; and only those with limited intelligence would not try and evade getting shot any way they could. What's next? Is someone "dishonorable" because they ran around a building instead of letting you shoot them in the back?

The Battlefield series was nerfed after 1942. Back then you could hop and fire at the same time. Whiners are 100% at fault for this totally game gaying nerf, as they are 100% at fault for all the time delays we now have included. Thanks.

i know they were rhetorical, but:
1. Obviously cleverer than the person doing the bunny-hopping
2. Since forever, it's never been in style in this game
3. No, who said it was?



just like repeatedly tapping spacebar is fun?

maybe my post was a little OTT, but bunny-hoppers just annoy me

1) Cleverer... obviously... really? I think it's just another way for someone not very good to rationalize getting spanked?

2) lol. Jumping to avoid fire has been a staple of the Battlefield series. In 1942 you can jump and fire at the same time. It's a sad testament to a whining community that we no longer enjoy this feature; nevertheless, jumping to avoid fire has always been there.

In 2142 you can't fire when you jump, you have to land first. Are you really sure you want to whine publically that a "problem" is someone who can't shoot back? That speaks to your aim more than it does anyone's evasive techniques.

Lastly, wtf is with the really stupid comments about realism? If you want realism and want to find out what a real soldier does in real battle, join the military; this is a f#cking video game filled with all sorts of stuff that doesn't exist in real life. Nobody's whining that you're able to miraculously beam to anyplace on the map; nobody's whining that you get to live more than one life; nobody's whining about little metal balls that have managed to ignore gravity; people only whine about players being better than them, and if a player is better than them, they want to f#ck the game up so it doesn't happen anymore.

[=)BiT(=AutoFodder]

*sigh*

1. So learning to hit spacebar is what it takes to be a good player? Wow, and I've been using my brains to get the drop on people for so long, if only I'd known!

I just don't know why you want it included, if you're not good enough to use cover then you deserve to get killed, simple as that.

[Vp2008]

bunny hopping is a cheep tactic but different people have different ideas

[Fumi]

*sigh*

1. So learning to hit spacebar is what it takes to be a good player? Wow, and I've been using my brains to get the drop on people for so long, if only I'd known!

I just don't know why you want it included, if you're not good enough to use cover then you deserve to get killed, simple as that.
Did you have to "learn" to move left? How much time did it take that great brain of yours to "learn" to lay down? Since "up" is just another direction, I can't see why you think "learning" is involved unless ... well... do you wear a helmet to school?

Hide in one spot, shoot the people who advance the game and feel superior; whine about those who make it less easy instead of improving your aim, then talk about what a great brain you have. :p

Apparently you can't hit a moving target, that's the only "problem". Oh noes!!! he's going up instead of slowly walking straight!!! :shock: :shakehead: That bastard!! I will report him@!!@@# :salute:

I'm glad most people don't play like you; if they did games would suck.

[=)BiT(=AutoFodder]

I never used the words "my great brain"

You seem to have assumed a hell of a lot from I've said, like the fact that I'm a camper, a smacktard and that I have problems with accuracy :|

It is possible to be good at this game without resorting to lame tactics like camping and bunnyhopping... no really!:nod:

Btw, I'm not the one being a smacktard, it's people like you that ruin the game for the rest of the people that actually aren't assholes

I've wasted enough of my time on you now, have fun twisting my words and randomly insulting me, I'm sure everyone will care :rolleyes:

[Fumi]

Oh you poor baby, you can dish it out but not take it. :p Is there nothing you won't whine about?

[IHateYou]

OMG the bunnyhopping issue... Watching people argue about this is like watching a retard trying to hump a doorknob. It's funny and all, but in the end pointless...

Look, bunnyhopping is not a cheap tactic. If I was in the field, and I knew that when I died I would come back to life in 15 seconds, I would jump around all over the place trying to dodge enemy fire. Why not? You can use tactics and brainpower and military strategy all you want, but this isn't Splinter Cell... It's Battlefield. If I killed more people and died less than you, then I win. I don't care if I did it by bunnyhopping, jihad-jeeping, transport ramming, or by bringing the T-100 from the future on a mission to exterminate you John Conner.

By the way, I don't like bunnyhoppers either, but I'm not such a narrow-minded prick that I can't see why they do it.

[nemesis908]

Only a moron would stand there and get shot when he has other options at his finger tips to avoid getting shot.

The only players "limited in skill" are those that can't hit a target which is unable to fire back; and only those with limited intelligence would not try and evade getting shot any way they could. What's next? Is someone "dishonorable" because they ran around a building instead of letting you shoot them in the back?

The Battlefield series was nerfed after 1942. Back then you could hop and fire at the same time. Whiners are 100% at fault for this totally game gaying nerf, as they are 100% at fault for all the time delays we now have included. Thanks.

Man, you prove my theory.

You think the only option to counter being shot at is to bash your spacebar senseless. Who's the moron? It makes me laugh that you say other options, but you're clearly limited to bunny hopping; which is the least effective option.

As for the rest of your "argument"; you're pointing things out that arent the issue here, your argument is irrelevant.

This game strives for some sense of realism, bunny hopping whilst firing is unrealistic and utterly ridiculous. People like you are 100% at fault for encouraging a poor style of game-play.

If you want to Bunny Hop, go play CS, Quake, UT or any of the other countless games where it's legit.

Cry more.

[Fumi]

Man, you prove my theory.

You think the only option to counter being shot at is to bash your spacebar senseless. Who's the moron? It makes me laugh that you say other options, but you're clearly limited to bunny hopping; which is the least effective option.

As for the rest of your "argument"; you're pointing things out that arent the issue here, your argument is irrelevant.

This game strives for some sense of realism, bunny hopping whilst firing is unrealistic and utterly ridiculous. People like you are 100% at fault for encouraging a poor style of game-play.

If you want to Bunny Hop, go play CS, Quake, UT or any of the other countless games where it's legit.

Cry more.
If it was the least effective option, you would not be moaning about it; that you are moaning about it is revealing. That you're moaning about and attempting to act superior is hilarious. This means two things: that people who jump confound you and that your own words destroy your own theory, only you can't see that.

The games strives for realism? Oh please, this isn't AA. The only time you people are concerned about realism is when you're having a tough time shooting people. Moan more, I'm sure you will.

[IHateYou]

OMG the bunnyhopping issue... Watching people argue about this is like watching a retard trying to hump a doorknob. It's funny and all, but in the end pointless...

Look, bunnyhopping is not a cheap tactic. If I was in the field, and I knew that when I died I would come back to life in 15 seconds, I would jump around all over the place trying to dodge enemy fire. Why not? You can use tactics and brainpower and military strategy all you want, but this isn't Splinter Cell... It's Battlefield. If I killed more people and died less than you, then I win. I don't care if I did it by bunnyhopping, jihad-jeeping, transport ramming, or by bringing the T-100 from the future on a mission to exterminate you John Conner.

By the way, I don't like bunnyhoppers either, but I'm not such a narrow-minded prick that I can't see why they do it.


QFT...

[nemesis908]

If it was the least effective option, you would not be moaning about it; that you are moaning about it is revealing. That you're moaning about and attempting to act superior is hilarious. This means two things: that people who jump confound you and that your own words destroy your own theory, only you can't see that.

The games strives for realism? Oh please, this isn't AA. The only time you people are concerned about realism is when you're having a tough time shooting people. Moan more, I'm sure you will.

Of course i'd still be moaning, proven by the fact that i am. Bunny Hopping is an annoyance that decent, skilled, intelligent players shouldnt have to put up with.

I'm not trying to act superior, the fact that you think i am is revealing :laugh:. Your attempts at rhetoric are laughable.

This game strives for some sense of realism. If you're going to quote me, at least be accurate. Who are "you people", the majority? You're so ignorant, mind you i wouldnt expect any less from a bunny hopper. If you were a decent player you could do without bunny hopping, the fact that you're so eager to defend it only proves otherwise.

[exedur22]

No it doesnt, only morons bunny hop.

I played BF2 for a long time prior to 2142 and not ONCE have i bunny hopped. Bunny hoppers are players of limited skill and intelligence.

Thus disproving your shoddy opinion.

Insulting someone's intelligence based on their style of game play is ridiculous. Especially if that tactic works.

If you've never bunny hopped, I can guarantee that you're not even coming close to playing to the level of your potential.

The fact that you think you can disprove someone's opinion by claiming something you cannot prove and again attacking someone's intelligence is as ridiculous as your first statement.


Man, you prove my theory.

You think the only option to counter being shot at is to bash your spacebar senseless. Who's the moron? It makes me laugh that you say other options, but you're clearly limited to bunny hopping; which is the least effective option.

As for the rest of your "argument"; you're pointing things out that arent the issue here, your argument is irrelevant.

This game strives for some sense of realism, bunny hopping whilst firing is unrealistic and utterly ridiculous. People like you are 100% at fault for encouraging a poor style of game-play.

If you want to Bunny Hop, go play CS, Quake, UT or any of the other countless games where it's legit.

Cry more.
I don't even know where to begin. Really, that's how bad this post is. I could attack the fact that you're trying desperately to sound intelligent and performing the literary equivalent of a disastrous face plant. Or I could attack the fact that you're completely ignorant to what actually works effectively. I could also go after choice statements about realism in a game set in the future, with fictional weaponry, fictional vehicles, and a fictional plot line. Or I could go after the fact that you somehow are so clueless about the way this game works that you think you can fire WHILE jumping. The icing on the cake was when you said "cry more". I would be hard pressed to find another example of more hardcore hypocrisy than that.

I just don't know.


Of course i'd still be moaning, proven by the fact that i am. Bunny Hopping is an annoyance that decent, skilled, intelligent players shouldnt have to put up with.

I'm not trying to act superior, the fact that you think i am is revealing http://www.totalbf2142.com/forums/../images/smilies/laugh.gif. Your attempts at rhetoric are laughable.

This game strives for some sense of realism. If you're going to quote me, at least be accurate. Who are "you people", the majority? You're so ignorant, mind you i wouldnt expect any less from a bunny hopper. If you were a decent player you could do without bunny hopping, the fact that you're so eager to defend it only proves otherwise.


I love how you try to paint this picture for everyone showing the dichotomy between the evil bunny hoppers and the angelic people who refrain from using that tactic... I'm sure the bunny hoppers are also rapists and murderers.

The fact that you fail to realize that you're taking an arrogant, condescending tone is actually the revealing element here. The "holier than thou" attitude, the insulting of intelligent, and overall position you've taken were disgusting enough for me to create an account for the sole purpose of replying to your ill-conceived posts.

One of the key elements of sounding intelligent is actually being intelligent. Stop insulting the rest of us who actually possess that intelligence by passing off your own opinions that have been derived from frustration as fact. I know in your mind you've presented yourself as being intelligent. For the rest of us, you've shown yourself to be nothing more than a pseudo-intellectual douchebag.

People who can't figure out how to employ bunny hopping tactics effectively, or have the "holier than thou" attitude and refuse to do it because their overwhelmingly powerful moral compass doesn't allow them to, create pathetic arguments (yours is a fantastic example) and defend their views so ferociously it's painfully clear to anyone who is a good player that the front they're putting up is paper thin.

Let me ask you this: who are you trying to convince that bunny hopping is such a deadly sin? The community, or yourself? Are you sure you're not just trying to explain away the fact that you suck?

If this style of play has been included in yet another game published by EA, I think it's safe to assume that it's an acceptable play style in the developer's eyes. So please, quit trying to create your own version of how you think the game should be played, stop preaching that version as the be all end all definitive play style and shut the **** up.

P.S. Fumi is a lot smarter than you. And no, I don't know him.

P.P.S. Since you're going to have a hard time dealing with that post, maybe I can give you something new to attack. I'm a competitive player on one of the best teams in the BF series. Try to be more creative than calling me a 12 year old when you attack that.

[nemesis908]

Insulting someone's intelligence based on their style of game play is ridiculous. Especially if that tactic works.

If you've never bunny hopped, I can guarantee that you're not even coming close to playing to the level of your potential.

The fact that you think you can disprove someone's opinion by claiming something you cannot prove and again attacking someone's intelligence is as ridiculous as your first statement.

I don't even know where to begin. Really, that's how bad this post is. I could attack the fact that you're trying desperately to sound intelligent and performing the literary equivalent of a disastrous face plant. Or I could attack the fact that you're completely ignorant to what actually works effectively. I could also go after choice statements about realism in a game set in the future, with fictional weaponry, fictional vehicles, and a fictional plot line. Or I could go after the fact that you somehow are so clueless about the way this game works that you think you can fire WHILE jumping. The icing on the cake was when you said "cry more". I would be hard pressed to find another example of more hardcore hypocrisy than that.

I just don't know.



I love how you try to paint this picture for everyone showing the dichotomy between the evil bunny hoppers and the angelic people who refrain from using that tactic... I'm sure the bunny hoppers are also rapists and murderers.

The fact that you fail to realize that you're taking an arrogant, condescending tone is actually the revealing element here. The "holier than thou" attitude, the insulting of intelligent, and overall position you've taken were disgusting enough for me to create an account for the sole purpose of replying to your ill-conceived posts.

One of the key elements of sounding intelligent is actually being intelligent. Stop insulting the rest of us who actually possess that intelligence by passing off your own opinions that have been derived from frustration as fact. I know in your mind you've presented yourself as being intelligent. For the rest of us, you've shown yourself to be nothing more than a pseudo-intellectual douchebag.

People who can't figure out how to employ bunny hopping tactics effectively, or have the "holier than thou" attitude and refuse to do it because their overwhelmingly powerful moral compass doesn't allow them to, create pathetic arguments (yours is a fantastic example) and defend their views so ferociously it's painfully clear to anyone who is a good player that the front they're putting up is paper thin.

Let me ask you this: who are you trying to convince that bunny hopping is such a deadly sin? The community, or yourself? Are you sure you're not just trying to explain away the fact that you suck?

If this style of play has been included in yet another game published by EA, I think it's safe to assume that it's an acceptable play style in the developer's eyes. So please, quit trying to create your own version of how you think the game should be played, stop preaching that version as the be all end all definitive play style and shut the **** up.

P.S. Fumi is a lot smarter than you. And no, I don't know him.

P.P.S. Since you're going to have a hard time dealing with that post, maybe I can give you something new to attack. I'm a competitive player on one of the best teams in the BF series. Try to be more creative than calling me a 12 year old when you attack that.

Man, that post is so pointlessly long i'm not even going to read it. No doubt it's full of more pro bunny hopping crap.

It's funny, you've taken all that time to carefully pick apart what i've said and i'm not even going to read it. :laugh:

Better luck next time.

[exedur22]

Nice try with the cop out. We both know you read it.

[nemesis908]

Nice try with the cop out. We both know you read it.

Yeah, of course i did. :rolleyes:

[KOFbooyah]

For the rest of us, you've shown yourself to be nothing more than a pseudo-intellectual douchebag.

Now now, two ad hominem arguments don't make it right! (Even if you appear to be right.)

[Fumi]

Man, that post owned me so hard i can only read it in parts; it will take many views to digest it all. No doubt, I'm getting spanked both in and out of the game. :shock:

It's funny, you've taken all that time to carefully pick apart what i've said when most people just let me get away with my silly b.s. Sorry, guess I was just used to not being checked. :laugh:

Thank you.
fixed.

[s4biturbo]

fixed.

back at it again i see! damn dude you need to get out your moms basement more and enjoy life a bit. :p

[[Inkblot]]

If you want to Bunny Hop, go play CS, Quake, UT or any of the other countless games where it's legit.


There is nothing in the ROE that states that bunnyhopping is not legit, therefore, your point is invalid.

[Fumi]

back at it again i see! damn dude you need to get out your moms basement more and enjoy life a bit. :p
I guess it should come as no surprise that someone who can't even get his own rig running right would come up with something stupid like this. Quit stalking me, run back to the support forum and go back to re-installing for the umpteenth time; it's what you do best. Clearly, you fail at internet insults.

[s4biturbo]

rigs running fine since i took your awesome advice and benchtested it for a solid 24 hours! :rolleyes: w00t!

thx a gazillion!

oh and you are always the one with the insults. i just call em as i see em!

[Fumi]

rigs running fine since i took your awesome advice and benchtested it for a solid 24 hours! :rolleyes: w00t!

thx a gazillion!

oh and you are always the one with the insults. i just call em as i see em!
You'd think a man with "18 years IT experience" would have better things to do than chase children around the internet?

Unfortunately, for you, you didn't take my advice, which is why you spend more time reinstalling the game than you do playing the game; last time we spoke, you were reinstalling each time you wanted to play. Now that's funny :nod:

Since we both know the last thing you're going to do is admit some kid may know more than you about anything, let alone your little fiefdom, computers, why are you here? You have nothing to say on the topic, you're just stalking someone. Are you... ya know... into little boys?

In closing, I am not really sure what you don't understand about the quote to come?
Quote:
My computer locks up or "chugs" sometimes while I'm playing with PunkBuster Enabled, what can cause this?

PunkBuster "pushes" hardware and the Windows OS more than most software and uses functions in the Windows API (low level functions) that aren't used by most other programs. As such, there are a few cases where using PB can actually expose flaky hardware or other situations that don't cause problems for other Software. Here are a few things that have helped other users make these problems get better or go away completely:

Now that someone other than some kid has said it, go deal with your ignorance and come play. I'd love to be responsible for giving you yet another purple heart. :p

[xslaneyx]

There is nothing in the ROE that states that bunnyhopping is not legit, therefore, your point is invalid.

doesnt need to be legit its a joke watching it in action... even better when the idiot in question falls onto your blade though:laugh:

[s4biturbo]

You'd think a man with "18 years IT experience" would have better things to do than chase children around the internet?

chase, hah. you will know when i am chasing you. and i have a nice cushy job so i do what i want.

Unfortunately, for you, you didn't take my advice, which is why you spend more time reinstalling the game than you do playing the game; last time we spoke, you were reinstalling each time you wanted to play. Now that's funny :nod:

i reinstalled a total of twice and since ea fixed the issue, i have not had any problems. you assume way too much, maybe you should change your name to assumi.

Since we both know the last thing you're going to do is admit some kid may know more than you about anything, let alone your little fiefdom, computers, why are you here? You have nothing to say on the topic, you're just stalking someone. Are you... ya know... into little boys?

i am here because i was reading a good thread turned bad, by you insulting people constantly. my comments were meant as a small jab to possibly make you realize you are acting like a prick a lot, so much so, it warranted my intervention. plus i hate little know-it-all pricks like you. ;)

In closing, I am not really sure what you don't understand about the quote to come? Now that someone other than some kid has said it, go deal with your ignorance and come play.

ok still not sure what that has to do with me. i am not having, nor have i been having any issues with pb, everything is gravy for me.

I'd love to be responsible for giving you yet another purple heart. :p

:shock: :laugh: we will just have to see about that now won't we. :salute:

[Fumi]

lol... "your intervention". That's funny. :rolleyes: Really, because I called hoppers unintelligent and bashed their play style. I think you need glasses, that or a R.I.F. bus.

I'm the only reason you're here. That you've slapped on your engineers cap and fired up the old quote train makes that quite clear. :D You are a stalker. The first step is admitting you've got a problem. :p

The only know it all d!ck is the moaning IT guy who can't get his sh!t to run right and refuses to consider another option. Some expert you turned out to be. I guess getting BF to run right is a bit more difficult than getting Excel to work? Maybe you should ask one of your underlings, someone who can get his BF to work, if he can come over to your house and help you? Sure it would look bad for people who look up to you, but... maybe you would learn something? Naahh, who are we kidding?

EA has fixed nothing. That's another pathetic lie. There's been no new patch, thus, no EA fix. That's rather creative of you; almost as creative as when you said the problem was server side. :laugh: Your willingness to lie and fabricate only lets me know you've reinstalled a whole lot more than you can admit. You're a funny old man. :nod:

we will just have to see about that now won't we.
Since you asked to be my buddy, I looked. Apparently you gobble up the purple hearts like an Ethiopian who's just been airlifted a bag of rice. ummmm good.

[s4biturbo]

http://gallery.greymatterhosting.com/albums/randoms2142/arguing.jpg

[Fumi]

lol. You can't even come up with a funny pic... and you have access to the whole internet. That's sad :laugh: You should study it though, ask yourself why you're even here, then get back to me with any words you don't understand. Btw, if you have anything else to say to me, PM me, that way I can ignore you.

[Yraen]

Sure is a lot of random e-peen swinging going on around here. Rather humorous how the internet makes people think they're tougher than they are...

On topic... bunny hopping, while an annoyance is just that. An annoyance. Jump in the air all you want, just makes you easier to shoot as you're not ducking behind cover :D

[Oceanicus]

On the battlefield, when rifles spit bullets like Hell, dropping for cover is surely the best way to live the next day... BTW, most of the time I see a bunny hopper under fire, if the guy who open fire miss it, surely is squadmates will bring down the "shoot me I'm here" bunny hopper.

[nemesis908]

fixed.

Uh-oh, someones riding on the back of someone elses argument, no balls alert.

Seriously though, there's no way i'm going to read and then argue against a behemoth of a post like that, especially from some chump that's signed up just to intervene in an argument. Fumi, i thought i'd heard the last of you when i put your pathetic argument to rest. And to come back with an edited quote from someone else, that's just poor.

Well thats the mentality of a bunny hopper for you.

There is nothing in the ROE that states that bunnyhopping is not legit, therefore, your point is invalid.

Oh look, i knew someone would pounce on the word legit as soon as i wrote it. Perhaps i should have rephrased it to "...not an embarassing display of inadequacy".

Either way my argument is still valid.

Please try again.

[the-masterlord]

when im support it really annoys me because i gotta try and get some shots in while either proned or maybe crouched and its impossibel to him a bunnyhopper or u nearly get him but then he bunny hopps away

[Yraen]

when im support it really annoys me because i gotta try and get some shots in while either proned or maybe crouched and its impossibel to him a bunnyhopper or u nearly get him but then he bunny hopps away
Just anticipate and lead the target. Bunny hoppers are easy to shoot :D

[Buttoneer]

My SMG is out of ammo. I'm in the open. The walker strides into view and the top turns to face me. I pull out my Pilum but it hadn't reloaded from the last shot.

You better bet your ar$e that I'm going to hop skip and jump my way to the nearest cover.

Yes it looks stupid, no it won't always save me. But it will save me sometimes, and that's enough for me.

[MrChris_CJ]

just because an enemy bunny hops doesnt change the fact that all you have to do is shoot them, granted it might be a tad more difficult (not likely) because they are having some kind of stroke but they can hardly shoot back at you while doing their funky dance

[ICE*T]

:DThis is a new move Ive been developing its called the 180 bunny hop

Taking fire from behind ?dont jus use the mouse to swing around - jump first and perform a 180 degree turn in the air , u will swing around much faster thus suprising the enemy mowing him down with a qick volley of fire....By the way this would be a valid technique in a `real lifecombat' situation so I dont want any whinging....

Ok for everyone who took this post seriously I would like to point out that it is tounge in cheek, perhaps most of you do not share my sense of humour or failed to see the smiley at the start of the post...come on 'real life combat situation'... oooh lets all get ****in serious and by the way bunny hopping in the game is defined as a player who repeatidly hits the jump button to avoid incoming fire and create an unfair advantage, something I wouldnt do in a game, to everyone who took this post seriously take a good look at yourselves and try growing some brain cells - 2142 best game in the world....populated by assholes....

[fmcvlad67]

bunny hoppers are just plain lame.

[nemesis908]

Ok for everyone who took this post seriously I would like to point out that it is tounge in cheek, perhaps most of you do not share my sense of humour or failed to see the smiley at the start of the post...come on 'real life combat situation'... oooh lets all get ****in serious and by the way bunny hopping in the game is defined as a player who repeatidly hits the jump button to avoid incoming fire and create an unfair advantage, something I wouldnt do in a game, to everyone who took this post seriously take a good look at yourselves and try growing some brain cells - 2142 best game in the world....populated by assholes....

You know, i did question it when i saw the post, and your age. But then i thought...

"This is TotalBF2142, this really could be for real."

[ICE*T]

wow I cant believe people get so serious about this . FOR EVERYONES INFORMATION IT WAS A JOKE, UNDERSTAND J.O.K.E i did not mean to spark a global debate on bunny hoppers i am sorry i will refrain from pranking the forums in future...keep your netbats on..

[exedur22]

Seriously though, there's no way i'm going to read and then argue against a behemoth of a post like that, especially from some chump that's signed up just to intervene in an argument. Fumi, i thought i'd heard the last of you when i put your pathetic argument to rest. And to come back with an edited quote from someone else, that's just poor.

Well thats the mentality of a bunny hopper for you.

Either way my argument is still valid.

Please try again.

My favorite part of this post is where you referenced a part of my reply, that you didn't read, that was buried in the middle of that "behemoth of a post", again, that you didn't read.

Nice work.

And I know you're going to reply with "I looked at your post count", but that's not definitive and you certainly don't know by looking at that what my intentions were.

I see you posted "please try again". Either you know you're beaten, and are in denial, trying to convince yourself otherwise. Or, you're delusional and you actually think you're winning this.

If the latter is the case, what color is the sky in your world? Here in reality, it's blue.

[nemesis908]

My favorite part of this post is where you referenced a part of my reply, that you didn't read, that was buried in the middle of that "behemoth of a post", again, that you didn't read.

Nice work.

And I know you're going to reply with "I looked at your post count", but that's not definitive and you certainly don't know by looking at that what my intentions were.

I see you posted "please try again". Either you know you're beaten, and are in denial, trying to convince yourself otherwise. Or, you're delusional and you actually think you're winning this.

If the latter is the case, what color is the sky in your world? Here in reality, it's blue.

I havnt once referenced your post, if there's something similar in my post to something in yours it's coincidence. Of course i'm going to say i looked at your post count, because i did. From that it's obvious what your intentions were, you wanted to get your balls wet in the argument, and you obviously signed up to do so. Since you referenced my post several times it's obvious that you were going to argue against me.

It's funny actually that you'd bring that up, because you yourself obviously know that's the most obvious explanation. Do you think by bringing that up that you've somehow countered it?

When i wrote "please try again" i was trying to goad the user into replying again.

Winning what, by the way? Your stupidity exceeds Fumis'.

Uh-oh. Please try again. :rolleyes:

[Stalker-NSDQ]

wow I cant believe people get so serious about this . FOR EVERYONES INFORMATION IT WAS A JOKE, UNDERSTAND J.O.K.E i did not mean to spark a global debate on bunny hoppers i am sorry i will refrain from pranking the forums in future...keep your netbats on..

:mad: Bunny hopping is a fragile topic - I don't like it, I don't do it :mad:
I am glad there are more people who definately disagree with your point ! THX

:shakehead: You can see why I said "fragile" :shakehead:

[exedur22]

I havnt once referenced your post, if there's something similar in my post to something in yours it's coincidence.

You're going to sit here and tell me that you were not referring to my post when you said:

"Seriously though, there's no way i'm going to read and then argue against a behemoth of a post like that, especially from some chump that's signed up just to intervene in an argument."?

I can't wait for you to try to explain your way out of that one.

Of course i'm going to say i looked at your post count, because i did. From that it's obvious what your intentions were, you wanted to get your balls wet in the argument, and you obviously signed up to do so. Since you referenced my post several times it's obvious that you were going to argue against me.

Nice deduction, Sherlock. Have you considered a career as a detective?

I have never heard anyone say "get your balls wet in an argument" before. That was absolutely hilarious. I'm not entirely sure what you meant by that, but I'm totally going to start using it.

It's funny actually that you'd bring that up, because you yourself obviously know that's the most obvious explanation. Do you think by bringing that up that you've somehow countered it?

Obviously.

When i wrote "please try again" i was trying to goad the user into replying again.

Winning what, by the way? Your stupidity exceeds Fumis'.

Uh-oh. Please try again. :rolleyes:

In my experience, "please try again" has proven to be an incredibly ineffective comment to end a post with, most often used by people who are losing the fight or have a false sense of superiority that is completely unjustified.

When I said winning, I was referencing, you know - arguing - the thing we're doing. I'm not sure how that eluded your lightning quick mental abilities, but there it is. I spelled it out for you.

By the way, telling me I'm dumber than the other guy that's beating your *** in this oh-so-awesome literary brawl is about as smart as replying to me at all without even reading my original post.

Hot tip: Stop trying to sound smart, stop trying to present yourself as an authority on the subject of bunny hopping, and (please, for your sake) stop trying to argue logically. People of your intelligence level are much better off sticking to the basics, such as:

"rofl ur so fkn dum dude i cud kick ur *** in rl"

[ICE*T]

:mad: Bunny hopping is a fragile topic - I don't like it, I don't do it :mad:
I am glad there are more people who definately disagree with your point ! THX

:shakehead: You can see why I said "fragile" :shakehead:


are you familiar with the phrase 'humour.'.....

[nemesis908]

What i clearly meant was; I hadnt referred to the anything specific in your post which is what you were implying. I wouldnt have thought i'd have to have spelled that out for someone as obviously intelligent as you. :p

I have considered work as a detective, but i hear it's sometimes quite dangerous, though it can pay well. It can be very uselful in unravelling the motives of some belligerent idiots. I suppose it's a matter of what kind of balance you prefer.

"get your balls wet in an argument"

Of course it's funny, it's supposed to be. However i can't take credit for coming up with it.

You've countered it? "Oh i knew you'd say that *parry*, you cant use that now." :rolleyes:

Me saying "please try again" clearly got to you. So obviously it's not ineffective. Do you really think anyone's "winning" this argument, let alone you? Your whole argument makes you out to be a hypocrite.

I think i'll leave it at that for now, no point writing an essay like some muppet. Nobody would bother reading it, lol.

[TacoManSupreme`]

*sigh* dumb bunnyhoppers...
I'm just glad i knifed one of em... kekeke ^_^

[exedur22]

What i clearly meant was; I hadnt referred to the anything specific in your post which is what you were implying. I wouldnt have thought i'd have to have spelled that out for someone as obviously intelligent as you. :p

Unbeknown to you (apparently), you did reference a specific point in my post. But that's not what my second comment was about. You made a blanket statement that was incorrect.


"get your balls wet in an argument"

Of course it's funny, it's supposed to be. However i can't take credit for coming up with it.

I'm pretty sure the phrase is "get your **** wet". As in, when you're screwing a girl, you stick your **** in, not your balls. I mean, I guess you could, but that's another topic entirely...frankly, one I don't want to get into (no pun intended).


You've countered it? "Oh i knew you'd say that *parry*, you cant use that now." :rolleyes:

I think you missed the point of what I said. I was making fun of the amount of "obvious"es you were throwing around. I didn't bother to reply seriously because I will never know what you assumed, and you will never know what my real intentions were (unless you read my original post, which I still say you did).



Me saying "please try again" clearly got to you. So obviously it's not ineffective. Do you really think anyone's "winning" this argument, let alone you? Your whole argument makes you out to be a hypocrite.

I think i'll leave it at that for now, no point writing an essay like some muppet. Nobody would bother reading it, lol.

It didn't get to me in the way you wanted it to. It annoys me the same way your entire post and online persona annoy me. It's condescending, arrogant, awkward and just feels so...amateurish.

Would you care to enlighten me as to which point of my argument is hypocritical?

Your entire purpose in this thread has been nothing short of a text book definition of hypocrisy, and it only continues with that statement.

Honestly, if I had to venture a guess as to your age, I would say you're in high school and have taken an advanced English course. I would also say you're socially awkward and try to flaunt your perceived intelligence way too often, which your peers find extremely annoying.

Right or wrong, that's how you're coming across.

[nemesis908]

Unbeknown to you (apparently), you did reference a specific point in my post. But that's not what my second comment was about. You made a blanket statement that was incorrect.



I'm pretty sure the phrase is "get your **** wet". As in, when you're screwing a girl, you stick your **** in, not your balls. I mean, I guess you could, but that's another topic entirely...frankly, one I don't want to get into (no pun intended).



I think you missed the point of what I said. I was making fun of the amount of "obvious"es you were throwing around. I didn't bother to reply seriously because I will never know what you assumed, and you will never know what my real intentions were (unless you read my original post, which I still say you did).



It didn't get to me in the way you wanted it to. It annoys me the same way your entire post and online persona annoy me. It's condescending, arrogant, awkward and just feels so...amateurish.

Would you care to enlighten me as to which point of my argument is hypocritical?

Your entire purpose in this thread has been nothing short of a text book definition of hypocrisy, and it only continues with that statement.

Honestly, if I had to venture a guess as to your age, I would say you're in high school and have taken an advanced English course. I would also say you're socially awkward and try to flaunt your perceived intelligence way too often, which your peers find extremely annoying.

Right or wrong, that's how you're coming across.

Lol, the phrase is "get your balls wet in an argument", as in submerging your balls. Not like it's relevant.

I dont know why you still assume i've read your first post. If i'd read it, i'd have said, and replied to it. As it turns out i really couldnt be be bothered, it was far too long. It's obvious to me what your first post was about anyway.

*It was your first forum post.
*You had broken my post up into little pieces, typical of someone who is in disagreement with what someone has said.
*It was extremely lengthy, not likely that you're writing how much you agree with me.

There's always the chance that I could be wrong. Am I wrong? I doubt it.

Your assessment of my persona is based on what? The argument i've had here? The reason i speak to certain people like i do is because they need to be spoken to like that, i.e. those that ruin others' gaming experience for their own benefit, including mine. I'm entitled to let my frustration out and have my opinion and my say.

Woah, i'm going to return to the topic for a second here. You can judge a players intelligence by the way they play. If someone is bashing their space bar in an attempt to avoid bullets/being killed, then they are lacking the intelligence to come up with an alternate, more effective way to avoid death.

Bunny hopping ruins gameplay, and a lot of players gaming experience. Despite what people like to say, Bunny Hopping does make a target harder to hit (obviously) if the player is not stationary. This is because the player is moving in an arc, which requires more adjustment when shooting.

This game is meant to represent a more realistic type of shooter, when have you ever seen soldiers IRL bunny hopping to avoid fire? Do you even play this game, or do you just browse the forums hoping to find a thread with an argument in so you can sign up?

Everything you say i am, you project yourself. You're so arrogant you couldnt leave it at your first post and you're prejudiced; claiming to know me, with no prior experience. Your experience of me consists of this thread, and i didnt start the argument.

Hot tip: Stop trying to sound smart, stop trying to present yourself as an authority on the subject of bunny hopping, and (please, for your sake) stop trying to argue logically. People of your intelligence level are much better off sticking to the basics...

There's just some of the hypocrisy in your argument.

Where's the hypocrisy in mine?

This was a much longer post than i would have liked but you leave so much for me to say. However i dont think you of all people will mind reading a slightly lengthy post.

[TacoManSupreme`]

haha, I've done my part against the demopackers...
i just learned blade1114 is #2 demopacker!
yay my best knife ever!

[the-masterlord]

no offence mate but y did u start a stupid topic like this off. only noobs wanna lern how to 180 bunnyhop and as far as i know theres no noobs on totalbf2142. and if it was a joke i dont get it. As tht guy said before bunny hopping is a fragile topic cos i dont know bout u but if ure tryin to kill someone and there bouncin around like a moron and then there teamate comes up behid me and blasts u wif the voss im not happy

[ICE*T]

no offence mate but y did u start a stupid topic like this off. only noobs wanna lern how to 180 bunnyhop and as far as i know theres no noobs on totalbf2142. and if it was a joke i dont get it. As tht guy said before bunny hopping is a fragile topic cos i dont know bout u but if ure tryin to kill someone and there bouncin around like a moron and then there teamate comes up behid me and blasts u wif the voss im not happy

yeah sorry for trying to bring a bit of humour to teh forums , Ill just mind my own in future:(if people bother to read the first thread they will see that said action doesnt even costitute a bunny hopping i.e tapping jump button repeatidly to achieve an advantage by avoiding enemy fire- I put the thread in a s a joke anyone with half a brain cell can see that..fragile topic? get a life, try and develop a sense of humour , I did not expect replies that are essay length in format with people aguing about the philosophical points of bunny hopping....go and have sex with someone ftlog

[RaliegH]

...go and have sex with someone...

Oh man, I love that comment...that about sums it up wouldn't you say?
I just can't see ever being "proud" of any agruement I have ever made on a forum...EVER.

:salute:

[ICE*T]

Oh man, I love that comment...that about sums it up wouldn't you say?
I just can't see ever being "proud" of any agruement I have ever made on a forum...EVER.

:salute:

:yay:wow I was expecting another to post a 'bunny hopping' sigh reply ,well done ; salute you sir.....

[the-masterlord]

go and have sex with someone


just cos i can and u cant

[ICE*T]

hehehe

[[gT]El-Gorko]

Bunny Hopping - My Opinion

Bunny hopping is a valid technique that has been around since jump was added to First Person Shooters. Many FPS players started by playing games like Unreal Tournament and Quake, which existed in a surreal world where the more agile player would almost always wins the gunfight.

Then, in the late 1990s, Bunny Hopping took an interesting turn in Half-Life based games, specifically Counter-Strike, when it became an exploit that allowed players to move rapidly through the map. Consequently, game developers addressed this situation by adding jump delays and stamina to counter-act this exploitative behavior.

However, their efforts have had limited success because video games are not real, so gamers actions are not governed by our real world laws. If there is an advantage to be gained by bunny hopping, players will take that advantage. I often find myself jumping like an idiot in attempts to take cover while under fire. It may not be very realistic, but then again, neither is Battlefield 2142.

Bunny hopping in those situations allows me make myself more difficult to hit, which prevents me from racking up as many deaths as I might otherwise if I just stood my ground and fought. I am also guilty of bunny hopping when I come under fire from my flank or rear. Instinctively, I crouch-jump and swing my mouse around to the direction the fire came from. Once I'm done jumping, I crouch and open fire on the target. Crouch-jumping makes me a smaller target, which usually buys me enough time to find and kill the person that got the drop on me.

Are these no-skill tactics? I do not believe they are because they take a long time to effectively develop. In fact, I believe that properly usage bunny hopping is what separates the decent players from the good ones.

[ICE*T]

In reply to above; personally i wouldnt bunny hop in a game, if i see people bunny hopping I shoot them anyway;its not hard,secondly,I believe it only gives an advantage in close quarter battle,thirdly everyone is going to be right on your case for being a self confessed 'hopper'

each to their own though mate i couldnt care less, the more exploits players use the more impressive my score is

[[gT]El-Gorko]

each to their own though mate i couldnt care less, the more exploits players use the more impressive my score is

Jumping around to take cover is not an exploit, it's just good tactics. Usually, I only rely on the more traditional form of bunny hopping when running from a walker or around a corner to reload my primary weapon.

As far as you not caring less, obviously you do care because you inserted a few snide remarks against those that do any form of bunny hopping. If you don't want to bunny hop, that's perfectly fine, but you shouldn't slam players that utilize a perfectly valid tactic.

[ICE*T]

El-Gorko;358594']Jumping around to take cover is not an exploit, it's just good tactics. Usually, I only rely on the more traditional form of bunny hopping when running from a walker or around a corner to reload my primary weapon.

As far as you not caring less, obviously you do care because you inserted a few snide remarks against those that do any form of bunny hopping. If you don't want to bunny hop, that's perfectly fine, but you shouldn't slam players that utilize a perfectly valid tactic.

i really dont care that much,Ive jus checked your stats and a best killstreak of 43 is quite impressive;sir i salute u:salute:

[[gT]El-Gorko]

i really dont care that much,Ive jus checked your stats and a best killstreak of 43 is quite impressive;sir i salute u:salute:

Thanks. I'm proud to say that streak was done without using any vehicle. It's actually my second longest streak. I had one that lasted 2.5 rounds before I finally got killed, which was around 55 combined kills. Not bad considering it was on a full 48 man server running Camp Gibralter (didn't die while attacking or defending... finally died on the next map).

[=EAU=Alabama619]

If you hate bunny hoppers then your obviously too crap at the game to kill them while jumping

[ICE*T]

If you hate bunny hoppers then your obviously too crap at the game to kill them while jumping

If you are talking to me and El-Gorko you're obvoiusly to crap to read the thread:laugh:

El-Gorko;358643']Thanks. I'm proud to say that streak was done without using any vehicle. It's actually my second longest streak. I had one that lasted 2.5 rounds before I finally got killed, which was around 55 combined kills. Not bad considering it was on a full 48 man server running Camp Gibralter (didn't die while attacking or defending... finally died on the next map).ive got one word 'awesome' i think my best with ICe*t was 24 or something....

[exedur22]

I'm going to chop your post up and reply to different pieces kind of out of order to make it easier on myself. I've left some parts that are not longer relevant out.


Woah, i'm going to return to the topic for a second here. You can judge a players intelligence by the way they play. If someone is bashing their space bar in an attempt to avoid bullets/being killed, then they are lacking the intelligence to come up with an alternate, more effective way to avoid death.

Bunny hopping ruins gameplay, and a lot of players gaming experience. Despite what people like to say, Bunny Hopping does make a target harder to hit (obviously) if the player is not stationary. This is because the player is moving in an arc, which requires more adjustment when shooting.

No, you cannot. There are not more effective means of avoiding death when you're trapped in certain situations.

Bunny hopping makes a target harder to hit because of much more than just a moving arc. It manipulates hit boxes and causes them to lag behind the model. It provides a less than accurate display of where you actually are on your opponent's screen, just like proning/ducking behind ledges does.

Is it lame? Yeah. But I play competitively and as such, I adapt or I die. Below you asked if I play the game. Yeah, I do. I play for one of the top competitive teams in the BF series.


This game is meant to represent a more realistic type of shooter, when have you ever seen soldiers IRL bunny hopping to avoid fire? Do you even play this game, or do you just browse the forums hoping to find a thread with an argument in so you can sign up?

I honestly cannot see how you got that idea. The battlefield series has always had more of an arcade type feel with fast action, unnecessarily numerous explosions, unrealistic damage, scenarios, and movement. If you want a realistic shooter, GRAW2 is where it's at (awesome game, by the way. And you can't jump).


Your assessment of my persona is based on what? The argument i've had here? The reason i speak to certain people like i do is because they need to be spoken to like that, i.e. those that ruin others' gaming experience for their own benefit, including mine. I'm entitled to let my frustration out and have my opinion and my say.

Everything you say i am, you project yourself. You're so arrogant you couldnt leave it at your first post and you're prejudiced; claiming to know me, with no prior experience. Your experience of me consists of this thread, and i didnt start the argument.

I think you've finally gotten the point. I based my posts on what I assumed your persona was like going on limited information, using a condescending tone, while more or less calling you an idiot. You wanted me to point out a hypocritical point in your argument? You're doing the exact same thing to bunny hoppers. You're taking one thing we do and making a broad, sweeping generalization about our mental abilities because what we're doing frustrates you.

[TacoManSupreme`]

hey, if they do annoy you, I just say to get revenge...
KNIFE EM'!
hehe... I knifed the world's #2 bunnyhopper ;) blade1114

[nemesis908]

No, you cannot. There are not more effective means of avoiding death when you're trapped in certain situations.

Bunny hopping makes a target harder to hit because of much more than just a moving arc. It manipulates hit boxes and causes them to lag behind the model. It provides a less than accurate display of where you actually are on your opponent's screen, just like proning/ducking behind ledges does.

You can, there are always other options to bunny hopping.


Is it lame? Yeah. But I play competitively and as such, I adapt or I die. Below you asked if I play the game. Yeah, I do. I play for one of the top competitive teams in the BF series.

Bunny hopping is not adapting, it's exploiting. Everyone plays competatively, it's a competative game; but i dont feel the need to milk the game at the cost of mine and others gaming experience.


I honestly cannot see how you got that idea. The battlefield series has always had more of an arcade type feel with fast action, unnecessarily numerous explosions, unrealistic damage, scenarios, and movement. If you want a realistic shooter, GRAW2 is where it's at (awesome game, by the way. And you can't jump).

Battlefield isnt fast, and it's certainly not arcade like. Maybe 1942 was, but the game's come a long way since then. Arcade like is Quake 3, Unreal Tournament, or even Half Life. Battlefield is a slow game, it is supposed to be a more realistic, tactical kind of shooter. Obviously not meeting the standard of games like Rainbow 6, but it couldnt be with large maps and vehicles for obvious reasons.

Also i dont have a problem with jumping, it's when people take it too far i.e. bunny hopping.

I think you've finally gotten the point. I based my posts on what I assumed your persona was like going on limited information, using a condescending tone, while more or less calling you an idiot. You wanted me to point out a hypocritical point in your argument? You're doing the exact same thing to bunny hoppers. You're taking one thing we do and making a broad, sweeping generalization about our mental abilities because what we're doing frustrates you.

No, i'm generalising your abilities as players. You could be a bunny hopper in-game and a talented mathematician irl, you're still not an intelligent player.

Also, bunny hoppers dont frustrate me. Just because im arguing against it, it doesnt mean it's because i cant handle it.

It's wrong, simple as.

[Fingulfin]

Bunny Hopping in 2142 Battlefield, Fin's Opinion:
Go ahead! Its been around since FOREVER, and it doesn't help you any! Think about it... It might mess a sniper headshot up a bit, but if I were aiming at your chest with, say, a Baur, and you bunny hopped to avoid it... I would still end up shooting at your lower torso/legs. The hop lasts for such a short amount of time too, it really doesn't help you any. Even in a knife fight it doesn't help. It is simply an utterly retarded tactic.

[exedur22]

You can, there are always other options to bunny hopping.

Bunny hopping is not adapting, it's exploiting. Everyone plays competatively, it's a competative game; but i dont feel the need to milk the game at the cost of mine and others gaming experience.

Explain to me what's more effective than bunny hopping when you're in the open, reloading, and run into an enemy who starts shooting at you.

After you're done with that, explain to me why your classification of bunny hopping as an exploit differs from EA's. They obviously don't think it's an exploit.

To clarify, when I say competition player, I'm referring to a player who plays the game in ladders and leagues for titles and prizes.

Battlefield isnt fast, and it's certainly not arcade like. Maybe 1942 was, but the game's come a long way since then. Arcade like is Quake 3, Unreal Tournament, or even Half Life. Battlefield is a slow game, it is supposed to be a more realistic, tactical kind of shooter. Obviously not meeting the standard of games like Rainbow 6, but it couldnt be with large maps and vehicles for obvious reasons.

Also i dont have a problem with jumping, it's when people take it too far i.e. bunny hopping.

I really disagree with your classifications here, but they're your opinions. I'm not entirely sure why you're trying to prove one opinion over another, other than the fact that one belongs to you. It doesn't make much sense to me.

No, i'm generalising your abilities as players. You could be a bunny hopper in-game and a talented mathematician irl, you're still not an intelligent player.

You're still generalizing. I use the UAV, I have great situational awareness, I spot enemies, I know the safest routes to flags, I'm a great shot, and a great team player. I listen to my commander, counter enemy movement, and can see the whole picture.

But you're willing to throw all that away because I spam my spacebar to avoid enemy fire when I get caught in the open.

That's generalizing.

You also called me and others, as people, stupid. Frequently.

Also, bunny hoppers dont frustrate me. Just because im arguing against it, it doesnt mean it's because i cant handle it.

Hope you don't mind if I reply with a quote for this one:

i.e. those that ruin others' gaming experience for their own benefit, including mine. I'm entitled to let my frustration out and have my opinion and my say.

Whoops?

It's wrong, simple as.

Again, I don't understand why you think you have the power to judge right and wrong when you had nothing to do with the development of the game or the ruleset that governs it.

[nemesis908]

Saying you're a competative player as in leagues and ladders just means you play "anything goes". It's like all the noobs getting together and having a mass orgy of voss spam and bunny hopping.

Explain to me what's more effective than bunny hopping when you're in the open, reloading, and run into an enemy who starts shooting at you.

I dont know, i can't see what's happening now can i? Also, if you're going to be out in the open reloading it's your own fault anyway. What happened to your situational awareness?


After you're done with that, explain to me why your classification of bunny hopping as an exploit differs from EA's. They obviously don't think it's an exploit.

Bunny hopping obviously isnt intended, it's a by product of being able to jump. If they're going to allow for bunny hopping they might as well remove the stamina bar.


You're still generalizing. I use the UAV, I have great situational awareness, I spot enemies, I know the safest routes to flags, I'm a great shot, and a great team player. I listen to my commander, counter enemy movement, and can see the whole picture.

But you're willing to throw all that away because I spam my spacebar to avoid enemy fire when I get caught in the open.

That's generalizing.

You also called me and others, as people, stupid. Frequently.

"But i do this, i do that".

I'm not interested, and i think you'll find you're a rarity among bunny hoppers. Still, i dont agree with bunny hopping; should i make exceptions because "oh you're such a great player"?

Enough blowing your own horn anyway, this isnt about you.

I do refer to a lot of people as stupid, but it's not because they bunny hop. You for example, join up to a forum because you just cant help but stick your oar in. You intervene in an argument between two people, just because you dont like what one person said to win the argument. You argue completely off-topic, and hypocritically. A point i raised before which you chose to ignore completely.

Also, what is it exactly you're attempting to achieve. I'm not about to admit i'm wrong, because i'm not. I'm not about to embrace bunny hoppers either.


Whoops?

I said i'm entitled to do it, i didnt say it frustrated me. The argument is what frustrates me.


Again, I don't understand why you think you have the power to judge right and wrong when you had nothing to do with the development of the game or the ruleset that governs it.

Because as i've said before, it's obvious bunny hopping was not intended. You even said it yourself that it's lame. It's like rooftop exploiting, which has become so popular.

"I R CAN DO IT, AND I R WILL!"

As someone who has purchased and plays the game i'm entitled to have a say on what should or should not go.

This argument seems to be very one sided, with me answering all the questions and you dishing them out endlessly and pointlessly.

[exedur22]

I rearranged a couple of things to make it easier to reply to.

Saying you're a competative player as in leagues and ladders just means you play "anything goes". It's like all the noobs getting together and having a mass orgy of voss spam and bunny hopping.

Since when does playing by a specific ruleset mean "anything goes"? I see you also are on the Voss hating bandwagon. I suppose using it is an exploit too, as you seem to define anything you don't like as such.

I dont know, i can't see what's happening now can i? Also, if you're going to be out in the open reloading it's your own fault anyway. What happened to your situational awareness?There are only two ways to know exactly what is going on around you at all times. One is to wallhack, and obviously not an option. The other is to have a great commander that is telling you exactly what is going on. UAV's are good, but never give the complete picture.

**** happens, if you're telling me you NEVER get caught in an unfavorable situation, I will pay you to prove it. I'm sure you're going to, once again, take the assumed moral high ground and claim you'd take the death if you got caught, but that's ******** and certainly doesn't help you or your team.

Bunny hopping obviously isnt intended, it's a by product of being able to jump. If they're going to allow for bunny hopping they might as well remove the stamina bar.How are you going to prove that it obviously wasn't intended? Both the stamina bar and bunny hopping are still there last time I checked.

"But i do this, i do that".

I'm not interested, and i think you'll find you're a rarity among bunny hoppers. Still, i dont agree with bunny hopping; should i make exceptions because "oh you're such a great player"?

Enough blowing your own horn anyway, this isnt about you.You sure as hell seem interested to me. If you weren't, you would not keep trying to prop up the losing side of the argument.

When you attack something I do, because essentially you don't like it, and label all people who do it as morons, I think that gives me the right to defend myself.

I do refer to a lot of people as stupid, but it's not because they bunny hop. You for example, join up to a forum because you just cant help but stick your oar in. You intervene in an argument between two people, just because you dont like what one person said to win the argument. You argue completely off-topic, and hypocritically. A point i raised before which you chose to ignore completely.You basically did the same thing I did. You couldn't keep your mouth shut on the subject, so you ran it and started an argument. You didn't win that other argument, by the way. Saying you did a bunch of times doesn't make it so.

You obviously missed the intention of my first posts. I mimicked your style of arguing to show you what you sound like. Of course it was hypocritical; it was meant to be. Check out post #85 again if you want to refer back to that point.

Also, what is it exactly you're attempting to achieve. I'm not about to admit i'm wrong, because i'm not. I'm not about to embrace bunny hoppers either.

This argument seems to be very one sided, with me answering all the questions and you dishing them out endlessly and pointlessly.You're absolutely correct, this argument is incredibly one sided.

What am I trying to prove?

You will never win this argument because of the simple fact that it's possible to bunny hop, EA (or DICE, or whoever) is not about to patch it out of the game, and people who play at CAL/TGL/CGES/TWL/whatever will do what it takes to win within the defined rules of the game (which this is).

Hate to break it to you, but you're going down with the ship and nobody is willing to toss you a life preserver.

I said i'm entitled to do it, i didnt say it frustrated me. The argument is what frustrates me.When you said "I'm entitled to let my frustration out", that definitely implies you're frustrated. If the bunny hopping is not what frustrates you (who are you kidding?) why would you get involved with the argument (which apparently does frustrate you) in the first place?

Because as i've said before, it's obvious bunny hopping was not intended. You even said it yourself that it's lame. It's like rooftop exploiting, which has become so popular.Just because I said something was lame doesn't mean it wasn't intended. Once again, where is your proof that it was not intended?

I personally think artillery and vehicles are lame, but that doesn't mean they weren't intended.



As someone who has purchased and plays the game i'm entitled to have a say on what should or should not go.HA. Good luck with that one.

[nemesis908]

Since when does playing by a specific ruleset mean "anything goes"? I see you also are on the Voss hating bandwagon. I suppose using it is an exploit too, as you seem to define anything you don't like as such.

Playing by a specific ruleset? You mean no rules?

How have you come to that conclusion?

"Oh he thinks bunny hopping is exploiting, he must think all things he doesnt like are exploits!"

Man, to think you accused my argument of being weak.



**** happens, if you're telling me you NEVER get caught in an unfavorable situation, I will pay you to prove it. I'm sure you're going to, once again, take the assumed moral high ground and claim you'd take the death if you got caught, but that's ******** and certainly doesn't help you or your team.

I never said that, and no despite what you might think i wouldnt stand there and let them kill me. But i wouldnt jump around like an idiot either.

There are OTHER options.



How are you going to prove that it obviously wasn't intended? Both the stamina bar and bunny hopping are still there last time I checked.

I cant prove it, but as an opinion i dont have to. If you could do without bunny hopping you'd realise it too.



You sure as hell seem interested to me. If you weren't, you would not keep trying to prop up the losing side of the argument.

You're confused, im not interested in you, or what you do.



When you attack something I do, because essentially you don't like it, and label all people who do it as morons, I think that gives me the right to defend myself.

You're right, you are. But you're boasting, and it's irrelevant, like most of what you say.



You basically did the same thing I did. You couldn't keep your mouth shut on the subject, so you ran it and started an argument. You didn't win that other argument, by the way. Saying you did a bunch of times doesn't make it so.

Lol, oh please dont compare me to you. I didnt do that same thing as you, i wasnt inspired sign up to this forum by an argument. I did win that previous argument, saying i didnt a bunch of times doesnt prove otherwise.



You obviously missed the intention of my first posts. I mimicked your style of arguing to show you what you sound like. Of course it was hypocritical; it was meant to be. Check out post #85 again if you want to refer back to that point.

I'm sorry, i didnt read your first post.

I doubt you mimicked me accurately, it was probably more of an angry, biased post of how you would like to think i am. I know full well how i sound, why would you think i needed you to show me?

What about the rest of your posts, are they supposed to be hypocritical? Oh wait, were you trying to mimic me in those too?



What am I trying to prove?

You will never win this argument because of the simple fact that it's possible to bunny hop, EA (or DICE, or whoever) is not about to patch it out of the game, and people who play at CAL/TGL/CGES/TWL/whatever will do what it takes to win within the defined rules of the game (which this is).

Hate to break it to you, but you're going down with the ship and nobody is willing to toss you a life preserver.

So you started an argument to prove that i couldnt win the argument? Neither can you mate. I'm not after support, i'm not interested in whether or not people listen to me. I'm not out to change anything.

I'm out to voice my opinion.



When you said "I'm entitled to let my frustration out", that definitely implies you're frustrated. If the bunny hopping is not what frustrates you (who are you kidding?) why would you get involved with the argument (which apparently does frustrate you) in the first place?

"Oh he's complaining about bunny hopping, he must get owned!"

You're so narrow minded, it couldnt possibly be that i just dont agree with it.



Just because I said something was lame doesn't mean it wasn't intended. Once again, where is your proof that it was not intended?

I personally think artillery and vehicles are lame, but that doesn't mean they weren't intended.

I never said you meant it wasnt intended. My point was that you agreed it was lame, yet you still do it. Shows your strength of character.


HA. Good luck with that one.

Lol, like i said i'm not out to change anything. I've had my say so far, and it's heeded enough attention. This argument will only further the attention it gets. Oops?

The funny thing is you're so arrogant, you think you've got me figured out and wont be dissuaded otherwise, you dont have a clue. You're everything you dont like about me, lol.

[exedur22]

You're done.

You don't understand my posts or the underlying meaning, you don't answer my questions definitively, and you certainly can't prove your point. I've mocked and mimicked you and the best you can do is call me a hypocrite, claiming to know what you sound like but failing to recognize it.

Anyone who has read through these posts knows beyond a shadow of a doubt that you can't deal with the way people choose to play the game and are frustrated by that. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that out. You can try to weasel out on as many technicalities as you want to, or try to argue until your opponent doesn't give a damn anymore when you know you're beaten, but those cop-outs don't change the fact that you're desperately trying to justify an unjustifiable position and we both know it.

Good luck with the whole playing a game you hate major aspects of thing.

And I hope for your sake you don't judge people in real life with such ignorant blanket statements.

[KOFbooyah]

I've had my say so far, and it's heeded enough attention. This argument will only further the attention it gets.

I agree, Nemmy! :banana:

Folks, please don't feed the Nemmy-troll. He has every right to voice his opinions but we have the right to let them echo into the cavernous silence of I-don't-give-a-****.

[nemesis908]

You're done.

You don't understand my posts or the underlying meaning, you don't answer my questions definitively, and you certainly can't prove your point. I've mocked and mimicked you and the best you can do is call me a hypocrite, claiming to know what you sound like but failing to recognize it.

Anyone who has read through these posts knows beyond a shadow of a doubt that you can't deal with the way people choose to play the game and are frustrated by that. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that out. You can try to weasel out on as many technicalities as you want to, or try to argue until your opponent doesn't give a damn anymore when you know you're beaten, but those cop-outs don't change the fact that you're desperately trying to justify an unjustifiable position and we both know it.

Good luck with the whole playing a game you hate major aspects of thing.

And I hope for your sake you don't judge people in real life with such ignorant blanket statements.

You mean you're done.

If you do reply, which i know you will (can't let comments like this go, can we?), please spare me the "no i'm just bored of this argument" and the crap that follows it. If you're not willing to follow it through then dont start it.

There is no underlying meaning to your posts, it was just a chance for you to flex your ego. Maybe you're just starting to realise that you really cant win this. No i cant win an argument over something thats in the game, and not against the rules (of the game). That doesnt stop me from having an opinion. If you dont like to see people voice their opinions, maybe you should go elsewhere. It's not like you dont have a choice.

How can i not deal with the way people choose to play? That's just something you choose to believe to try and dignify what you do. Every time someone bunny hops in front of me they end up dead. That doesnt mean i'll just accept that people bunny hop; i'm not as fickle as you.

You know, no matter how many times you say im beaten it wont make it so. I've countered everything you've thrown at me with minimal effort, whether you'd like to think so or not. The only thing you've actually managed to prove is that you're a bigger jackass than i am, and that takes quite a lot to top.

I dont hate major aspects of the game; bunny hoppers are a small factor. I rarely come across those stupid enough to bunny hop. Also, judging by this argument, my "ignorant blanket statement" was quite accurate.

Also, how am i the troll here? This guy actually signed up to the forum just to argue. That's the very definition of a troll.

[ginnix]

first of all ur all stupid and pathetic. if some one is whining about bunny hopping its because its hard for them to kill them, when you bunny hop it makes you a hard target to hit and now you thick heads whine about it. Who got no skills now? If bunny hoppers are noobs and idiots and you are a perfect pro very skilled extra talented players why cant you shoot them goddamn it?! and you come here whine like little girls. dont be jealous of bunny hoppers because you cant kill them. and that is annoying?? ROFL!!!, yea they dont bunny hop so you can get more frags and have more fun, yea right get out of here unskilled noobs. dont open ur mouth if you cant even shoot a bunny hopper "noob".

[ICE*T]

umm the original post made by my great self was actually just a joke....:confused:

[RMcLeod]

umm the original post made by my great self was actually just a joke....:confused:

:rofl:
That's what makes this flame war all the more amusing!

I got the joke hence my sarcastic reply on the first page.

To the trolls why not agree to disagree?

Something along the lines of.

AntiBunnyHopping: "Personally I don't use this tactic as I prefer to find other ways of taking on the enemy but each to their own"

ProBunnyHopping: "I like to use this tactic as I find it very effective, but I respect your choice of game play style"

[Cann0n-Fodder]

Some folks were harsh on ICE-T.

All I have to say is, many times a "quick-on-the-finger" Voss'er will have you hitting the dirt before you can even tap the spacebar.

[ICE*T]

Some folks were harsh on ICE-T.

All I have to say is, many times a "quick-on-the-finger" Voss'er will have you hitting the dirt before you can even tap the spacebar.

hey the original post was a joke anyway some people jus saw read when they saw 'bunny hop' and just didnt have the sense of humour to pick up on the joke....:D:cool: