SD-8 Accipiter problems..

[NZDeathBoy]

SD-8 Accipiter
http://battlefield.ea.com/battlefield/bf2142/images/uav_drone_sentry.jpg

One of the most underpowered and un-used weapon used in 2142, and for good reason.
For the last 2 days, I’ve been using it, every round. And I’ve noticed quite a few things that are REALLY crappy about it.

It still kills you when you deploy it. Not every time, but enough to be annoying, as you die and lose 2 points. Also it deploys and knocks about 50-80% of your health off.

It should have the system like the out of bonds thing. You have 15 secs to get off it, or away from it. Then you die. (Or cut it down to 5 secs.) Instead of this BS instant death. Doing that would still prevent the drone surfing.

Another glitch with it is that it some times, just instantly self-destructs. Once it does that, don’t bother trying to use it for the rest of the round. Can’t seam to think of a way to stop it doing it. But next round it will work.

The Accipiter should not only work off net-bat (which it does rather poorly.) It should work on range too. I.E. if an enemy is sneaking up on you, it should start firing. Twice today I was able to knife a SL that had an Accipiter. It didn’t even know I was there.

Having a proximity fire range would make this a lot more enjoyable to use.

The net-bat doesn’t quite work. If I’m looking at an enemy, it doesn’t fire. I could kill the enemy with a pistol before it starts to fire. But if a squad member sees and enemy about a mile away, it’ll start firing.

It would also be nice if the Accipiter had a health bar that all squad members can see so you can repair it if it’s getting damaged. As I’ve tested that you can repair it. As I was in a walker with it deployed, and I was getting team Vehicle damage and repair points from the drone.

That way you’ll be able to keep it going for a lot longer. Waiting to re-arm with ammo to reboot the drone is a pain.

Any thoughts?

[Minmaster]

yea for sure it's too bugged right now. they haven't really fixed the suicide or the constantly blowing up problems. imo the old SL drones were perfect except for the stairway to heaven exploit. they should've just made the SL drones not drop down when EMP'd instead of trying to fix the thing and create even a worse mess. in one of the early patches it's target acquisition was improved, but i think it went back to old code because it's really horrible at target acquisition now. the only time it's useful is when you combo it with the heartbeat sensor. either give it proximity target acquisition or give it more firepower so that if it does shoot at someone, it can actually do some real damage, since it barely works in the first place. why nerf or make crappy the drone that only really works a small % of the time?

[ICE*T]

I allways thought that this drone should lock onto targets automatically and then this target should be uploaded to the netbat , would be alot better like that...i havnt used this drone for ages but I did go through a phase of using it on the titan ages ago ganx , sentry gun , accipter seemed to work quite well defending corridors...

[Ezekiel]

Accipiter Rocks

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a340/daylfc/BF21422007-07-0812-01-29-46.jpg

Well tbh it doesn't really rock i just like it, but yea the targeting systems needs to be made better, because it rarely shoots and when it finally does if there running it misses them quite alot plus the damage in minimal, but other than thta i like it lol

[Demize99]

We've worked on the SL Drones based on the 1.40 beta patch feedback:

We've fixed the problem with the drone crushing you when activated (a different much more effective fix has been done).
You will no longer need to be rearmed to redeploy a destroyed or lost drone. The Squad Leader can simply call the drone again. This should help with the "instant destruct" events and the drone getting stuck on urban maps.
A small change has been made in the drone's targeting to make it better at hitting moving targets.


It still relies on targets from the NetBat system. This is based on internal tests we did with previous versions of the Accipiter. Imagine a soldier running around the battlefield with a Sentry Gun that follows him and shoots at anything in a 360 degree radius around him. It was pretty over powered.

[Ghiblian]

We've worked on the SL Drones based on the 1.40 beta patch feedback:

We've fixed the problem with the drone crushing you when activated (a different much more effective fix has been done).
You will no longer need to be rearmed to redeploy a destroyed or lost drone. The Squad Leader can simply call the drone again. This should help with the "instant destruct" events and the drone getting stuck on urban maps.
A small change has been made in the drone's targeting to make it better at hitting moving targets.


It still relies on targets from the NetBat system. This is based on internal tests we did with previous versions of the Accipiter. Imagine a soldier running around the battlefield with a Sentry Gun that follows him and shoots at anything in a 360 degree radius around him. It was pretty over powered.

Wonder what else has made it into the 1.40 patch that we don't know about. I'm on the edge of my seat! I agree it shouldn't lock onto the target the SL is looking at. If the SL is looking at a target, the SL can just shoot them himself. It's all about the accuracy and target-choosing AI that makes or breaks it.

Ezekiel, you spent a lot of time being a really bad squad leader. =P

[SonicPixel]

Woo-hoo for an Accipiter buff! :yay:

I'm amazed that this device only seems to work when other folks register targets with NetBat. I'm a pretty active spotter and it NEVER locks on to the targets I call out.

Do I need to use the Pulse Meter? Am I not doing it right by Q-spotting?

[Timmmmmy]

i think if you look up it doesn't hurt or kill you.
Hmm NZDeathBoy.
i think I've played against you you before.
didn't u call me "a sad C*NT" because i jiharded your walker?

[Raidyr]

i think if you look up it doesn't hurt or kill you.
Hmm NZDeathBoy.
i think I've played against you you before.
didn't u call me "a sad C*NT" because i jiharded your walker?

Oh christ...

Edit that and send it via PM before this turns into a flame war.

[Bardo]

the accipiter is an awesome idea, but the fact that it takes the pulse monitor to get it to fire right away stinks, as you could kill the enemy faster if you simply had your gun out. other than the pulsetek, its tough to get an enemy on your netbat quickly enough. and, it is slightly over your head, so if you're hiding, most of the time the thing you're hiding behind hides the accipiter as well. so, you kinda have to be somewhat in a clear area to give the accipiter a clear shot... which means you need your gun out to engage enemies as well.

now the otus, on the other hand... gives valuable intel and has probably resulted in hundreds if not 1000+ kills that i can directly attribute to the otus's intel.

i personally would be hard pressed to ever choose the accipiter over the otus unless it could lay down some serious close range cover. any buff to the accipiter would rock. i just wish it auto tracked like a sentry gun, but had a very limited range (say 20-30m) to keep from being God-like.

kudo's dice for any improvement on it :D

[ICE*T]

[QUOTE=

It still relies on targets from the NetBat system. This is based on internal tests we did with previous versions of the Accipiter. Imagine a soldier running around the battlefield with a Sentry Gun that follows him and shoots at anything in a 360 degree radius around him. It was pretty over powered.[/QUOTE]

just reduce its range and nerf it a bit ; that drone would be so cool if it would seek targets on its own

[Timmmmmy]

Oh christ...

Edit that and send it via PM before this turns into a flame war.

Meh no hard feelings, i hate it as well but it is affective i have to say.

[venny]

omg, the highest no of kills by any single person with that is only 641? its even worst than the rdx shotty! very very underused indeed...

[Firestorm]

Excellent job DICE. You are doing a subreb job with this game and I hope it continues.

[Ezekiel]

Im looking forward to this buff :D

Wooo

[TrooperJac]

I hardly ever see it on the field nowadays - last time it was being flown by demize99 in the tag challenge. I thought it was a very sporting attempt to let people know where he was :D

[NZDeathBoy]

You will no longer need to be rearmed to redeploy a destroyed or lost drone. The Squad Leader can simply call the drone again. This should help with the "instant destruct" events and the drone getting stuck on urban maps.




Is that going to work? As when it "instant destruct"s, no matter how many times I rearmed myself it just blew up again. Or have you fixed the "instant destruct" all together?


And trimmmmy your not wrong. Jiharding is a cowards tactic. Mines and pilum is the honourable way to do it. I can do it almost as fast as a jihard.

Im honnoured that you remember me insulting you though :p

[gamefoo]

Im ranked 30-ish with it. It's all about ducking behind cover and spamming your Infantry Pulse Meter with a recon guy in your squad.

Granted, I wish it did more.

[Demize99]

I hardly ever see it on the field nowadays - last time it was being flown by demize99 in the tag challenge. I thought it was a very sporting attempt to let people know where he was :D

The Accipiter drone saved my tags a couple times, and its a handy spot for the support sensor. It just is not, and is not supposed to be, a primary killer. It's extra squad fire power, and I would even say it falls into the "toy" category. Sound and fury, baby.

[Voop_Bacon]

Wow, am I the only one who likes the accipiter as-is(except deploy glitches). Ive had rounds where the thing is constantly firing and it has saved my butt many times. All you have to do is keep your squad around you and that thing is like a 7th squad member.Alas, I dont have many kills with it unfortunately because ever since the "fix", It kills me too often. Too bad, just when i was starting to like it.

[Metalman223344]

Ok fine limit the range to 30 even....but make each shot worth 25 dmg. I haven't used it in a while...but does it shoot people you spot out?

[Bardo]

Ok fine limit the range to 30 even....but make each shot worth 25 dmg. I haven't used it in a while...but does it shoot people you spot out?

not unless they are on your netbat system, aka a red diamond around that enemy.

aww well, to each their own. otus for me anyday.

current fix for the self-destruct: always look straight up. it will NEVER fail. don't worry about terrain, moving, etc as others will tell you. also, avoid any low hanging archways, they will destroy the drones. if you must pass under one, look at your otus/accipter and hit "G" to grab it and put it back in your inventory. go through archway, and re-deploy. viola!

[Vikaman]

The funny thing is, the Accipiter works like a charm in singleplayer.

[Fingulfin]

ROFL, XPac1 (Number 6 in Ezekiels Shot) and Krimen (number 14) are in my clan :p They both love the Accipter, and I know how to use it as well.

HINTS:
When Deploying, LOOK UP. Around 99% of the time it should deploy just fine.

Play assault! If you look at an enemy for a second or so, NetBat will spot them and the Accipter will start Shooting them.

Play Recon! Same reasons as assault.

Play Support! Use the Pulsemeter, it will stick EVERYONE in front of you on the Netbat, giving the Accipter a crapload of targets, +you can stick your IDS on it, giving you a roving UAV ;)

DON'T Play Engineer! Your Netbat only works VS Vehicles, so you can't really use it properly :p

Thats all for now :p

[PHATHEAD009]

I recently unlocked it and started messing around with it and found it not to be a great killing weapon, but an awesome suppressive fire weapon. When defending the Harbor on Camp G as EU, I set up on the building to the left of center right behind the flag, throw a sentry gun in one direction, deploy the accipter and stick an IDS-1 to it, and then get set up with my Ganz. As long as my squad is full and sticking close by I can effectively give suppressive fire in 3 directions while people flank the targets that are concentrating on my mini bullet factory that I set up.

I will admit that the OTUS seems to be a lot more effective at spotting more targets at a greater range. I always thought that the accipter was just the same as the otus with guns. Is its sensing ability toned down to compensate for the firepower?

[Demize99]

DON'T Play Engineer! Your Netbat only works VS Vehicles, so you can't really use it properly :p

Everyone's NetBat works against all targets.

[Fingulfin]

Seriously? Interesting...

[Demize99]

Yeah, Assault gets to see the kit of the enemy, and Engineer gets to see the vehicle type of the NetBat targets. But everyone can see all the diamonds.

[Yraen]

Think I may unlock this soon just to play with it :p

[gamefoo]

SD-8 needs a GL.

[193d DCAT1]

S8 needs a buff - when 100 kills will get you in the top 100 in the world, you know nobody is using it! I've never been killed by the thing and have 4 kills with it, ranking around 13,000 with it! I tried using it for a while but it killed me more than the enemy.

[Ezekiel]

Nooo stop slagging my baby off :D

See she has gotten me practically 30 kills in a day

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a340/daylfc/BF21422007-07-1009-23-08-48.jpg

Really looking forward to the buff though :D

[Demize99]

SD-8 needs a GL.

Frankly, I'd love to see a mod giving it Dual Rail Guns. :P

[Shrimpcraft]

Frankly, I'd love to see a mod giving it Dual Rail Guns. :P

are we looking at an AV version of the drone =O? cause it'll really be pwnage for any non engy class to go against veh =D just identify the target with net bat and the drone will start firing XDD

[ICE*T]

are we looking at an AV version of the drone =O? cause it'll really be pwnage for any non engy class to go against veh =D just identify the target with net bat and the drone will start firing XDD

they could have coded a good anti infantry drone, av drone and aa that'd be cool - help to balance out all the vehicles.

[Slim1951]

Does anyone know the range of the Otus? Also, is it greater than the range of the IDS-1? I am guessing the IDS-1 is about 20-30m range, but I am not sure. If the Otus will get at least 40 meter range, I will try to upgrade to get one.

[Firestorm]

Does anyone know the range of the Otus? Also, is it greater than the range of the IDS-1? I am guessing the IDS-1 is about 20-30m range, but I am not sure. If the Otus will get at least 40 meter range, I will try to upgrade to get one.

Go get it. It's very useful on all maps, close and wide.

The Otus also detects vehicles

[Minmaster]

i just tried using the accipiter again tonight with the pulse meter and i couldn't get it to lock onto anybody....i remember at least that worked before but it won't work anymore for some reason. now its really worthless...

[Fingulfin]

Its just lag, join a smaller server/one that has better ping. Accipter SUCKS on HUGE servers, and/or servers where you have high ping ;)

[Firestorm]

Its just lag, join a smaller server/one that has better ping. Accipter SUCKS on HUGE servers, and/or servers where you have high ping ;)

Small servers are always the best!

[Bobbus]

I tried using Accipiter + Pulse Meter on single player today, in an attempt to get revenge against the bots for always slaughtering me with their Accipiters and Enforcers.
The damned thing couldn't hit one lone infantryman who was running across my screen. Clearly it's not just lag that makes the Accipiter so unreliable.
Hopefully the changes to the aiming will make it a bit better at hitting moving targets.

[MrLyramion]

Best thing ever to happen:

We were on an assault at Cerbere. I wanted to fool my Squadleader who had an Otus - I switched his kits out on revive - now he had my Accipiter :D


Well... little did I know... when he summoned the Accipiter he got BOTH drones out - Otus & Accipiter. Both drones were working.... as a team!

The Otus gave the Accipiter Netbat targets and the Accipiter killed 3! - THREE! guys on our way up to church - it was AWESOME! :D

[Fingulfin]

I saw a topic on this before, we called it the "Super Drone" :p

[Ezekiel]

Ive had 2 Accipiters out at the same time before :D but whenever that happens neither shoot lol

[PassTheChips]

Its just lag, join a smaller server/one that has better ping. Accipter SUCKS on HUGE servers, and/or servers where you have high ping ;)

Just a question were the caps locked words a subliminal message;).

Ya just gotta love em

Personally I lub teh Accipiter just have not gotten around to using it. A buff to it is nice though.
Neted me 2 kill in a round when i remembered I had the thing

[Fingulfin]

Just a question were the caps locked words a subliminal message;).
You just had to make something sick out of that didn't you...

[PassTheChips]

Well I did not really mean it that way.

Way to think I meant something sickening when I did not ;).

But on-topic plz.

It would be fairly smiple to make the accipiter round railgun rounds :).

God that would hurt considering it is rapid fire :)

[Shrimpcraft]

Best thing ever to happen:

We were on an assault at Cerbere. I wanted to fool my Squadleader who had an Otus - I switched his kits out on revive - now he had my Accipiter :D


Well... little did I know... when he summoned the Accipiter he got BOTH drones out - Otus & Accipiter. Both drones were working.... as a team!

The Otus gave the Accipiter Netbat targets and the Accipiter killed 3! - THREE! guys on our way up to church - it was AWESOME! :D

omg are u kidding me?!?!?! now i really gotta try it :yay:

[Christian_92]

Hi, i was just wondering about the squad leader gun drone. On a
screenshot, i saw a gun drone that looked like it had been upgraded
to a better, bigger version. I was wondering if this was true and if someone
could tell me. The picture below shows the drone which looks completely
different to the original

http://www.electronicarts.co.uk/Images/screenshots/82073-bf2142-%5B7-7-06%5D-09.jpg


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[Micster]

This is a very, very early picture, I mean look, that EU Soldier is holding a Shuko LMG. :p

[[Inkblot]]

How about if you hold Q and spot the enemy, the accipiter immeadiately starts firing if they are in LOS?? If they could code this, people would love it, and actually start spotting people before they blow their brains out.

[n00bs4brkfst]

It was pretty over powered.


It SHOULD be overpowered. It's the highest SL unlock and requires 3 more peeps in squad to use. It need a WAY better system of targeting.

[ihavenoname]

I find that the Accipiter kills more while the user is dead.......................