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ICE*T
07-14-2007, 03:06 PM
use noob tactics to trick the enemy; for instance if Im in a tower playing as an engineer and spot infantry I know that my smg is no good from far way so I let off a few rounds and make sure they know where I am; he climbs ladder I SMG him in the face; recently Ive been using my knife more..so he may get his face slit instead. Another example would be to loose a few rounds at the enemy and then run inside the tower ie ( suez/verdun etc.) dont climb the ladder, 9 times out of 10 he'll come running and start climing , youll be waiting in the little alcove at the bottom of the ladder for an easy kill..you can also entice campers out of corridors by acting like a noob..works better on 16 player titans ervers though...:salute:

Cann0n-Fodder
07-17-2007, 02:36 AM
I've done the SMG trick before! It does work! You can also trick assault people into spamming rockets at you, then popping back out to pick them off.

ICE*T
07-17-2007, 05:52 PM
I've done the SMG trick before! It does work! You can also trick assault people into spamming rockets at you, then popping back out to pick them off.

thats it trickery gets you kills and points ; I love tricking people in the game .....

Lord Sharpe
07-17-2007, 06:12 PM
Clever tactics like this make the game, for me. Coming up with a way of breaking through the unbreakable defenses of a flag.

If you remember you are playing with people, then it becomes easy to defeat them. Just trick them into doing what you want them to do.

ICE*T
07-17-2007, 09:26 PM
Clever tactics like this make the game, for me. Coming up with a way of breaking through the unbreakable defenses of a flag.

If you remember you are playing with people, then it becomes easy to defeat them. Just trick them into doing what you want them to do.

nuff said dude..

Diamond621
07-18-2007, 02:33 AM
Think about how stupid the average person is. Now, remember that by the definition of the word "average", approximately half of all people are even stupider than that.

Feigning stupidity, ignorance or fear is so often a winner in this game. Even the pros become complacent, no matter how much they want not to, when they believe they are up against an inexperienced player who is rattled. This lapse in concentration allows you to get the upper hand, and is a powerful technique indeed.

ICE*T
07-18-2007, 02:46 AM
Just recently Ive been doing stuff like this more and more ...driving an apc and come face to face with another apc? just machine gun away at him like a noob;draw him in when he's close enough pod out behind him and take the points either by pilum or rdx....gunship coming in just sit there like a noob;let him come in nice and close ;at the last second shields up and emp the c**t

bradino27
07-26-2007, 06:34 PM
oh yea i love the apc vs apc trick i do it all the time. one of my favorites is to just snipe from the 2 level sniper towers and when someone gets close to the bottom of the tower let out a few pistol shots until he notices you and then wait for him to come up and knife from behind when hes on the ladder.

muppetchief
08-01-2007, 11:07 AM
gunship coming in just sit there like a noob;let him come in nice and close ;at the last second shields up and emp the c**t

hhahahahaha :laugh::laugh::laugh:

brilliant i tried that and it worked lol was really funny

ICE*T
08-01-2007, 03:07 PM
hhahahahaha :laugh::laugh::laugh:

brilliant i tried that and it worked lol was really funny

yes the majority of pilots will hover behind an enemy vehicle to get a kill;in a tank just shields up and blast him with your cannon..

RMcLeod
08-01-2007, 04:59 PM
Yep, the ones you have to watch out for are pilots like me who never hover, by the time my first rockets have hit you and you're aware of me I've already flown past you and started a turn/climb/dive so you don't have a straight shot at me.

The only downside for me is if you are moving as I swoop not all of my rockets will hit and I won't get the kill.

The variation of the 'noob tactic' I like is the double bluff, make the enemy think you are bluffing when in fact you're not.

e.g. run around a building, in normal circumstances the enemy will think you are bluffing and are waiting just around the corner for him. So he'll go around the other way to come up behind you, but in fact you have ran around to the other side and are waiting for him to come up "behind" you.

Roger Smith
08-01-2007, 07:21 PM
lol i never climb ladders. i just throw grenades and wait for them to pop thier head out. besides wtf is an engineer doing in a tower, you should be at a silo or in armor, utilize yer kit man.

ICE*T
08-02-2007, 12:21 PM
lol i never climb ladders. i just throw grenades and wait for them to pop thier head out. besides wtf is an engineer doing in a tower, you should be at a silo or in armor, utilize yer kit man.

I quite like camping silos and as I play suez I wind up in a tower alot;I utilize my kit by destroying most of the enemy vehicles that try to cap the silo;I can hold a silo for most of the round ; and as I'm working towards my war college ribbon ,this is the best way I feel that I can influence the round.I have never really been that much into vehicles but I love the engineer kit - everyone has got a different style of play bro,this thread is just about noob tactics ie acting like a noob to trick the enemy

RichardDawkins
08-02-2007, 03:17 PM
the best is ignoring a camo'ed guy and then ruining his fleeting moment of stealth by clark to the face. also letting a knifer think he is following you undetected and then hopping back over him to get his tags yourself.

Roger Smith
08-02-2007, 05:36 PM
hey if you can truly defend the silo from up there go right ahead. what happens when its not armor thats capping but infantry thats on the other side of the silo? what do you do then?

RichardDawkins
08-02-2007, 05:44 PM
hey if you can truly defend the silo from up there go right ahead. what happens when its not armor thats capping but infantry thats on the other side of the silo? what do you do then?

remember, an engie rocket makes someone dead, not just wounded. can be v handy to have an engie pull off a hit on the squad leader that's coming to ruin your home

makes you wonder how awesome it would be if a headshot from a zeller killed you outright... man that would be uber

ICE*T
08-02-2007, 05:51 PM
hey if you can truly defend the silo from up there go right ahead. what happens when its not armor thats capping but infantry thats on the other side of the silo? what do you do then?

look I dont allways camp in towers OK ;I dont allways play as engineer;it is however my favorite class - if infantry do appear on the scene I have three frags to use and an expanded smg - which is deadly at close range. I normally let them deactivate the silo before attacking and let them relax a little.The tactic of letting of a few rounds to entice them into the tower is because the smg is only any good at short range;so I believe that this is playing to the kits strengths..is this ok for you..this whole thread is about acting like a noob to trick other players into stupid moves....I suggest we stick to the topic now...

Roger Smith
08-02-2007, 06:09 PM
um, ya. lol. dont got 2 get all grouchy.

farmergiles
08-03-2007, 12:09 AM
noob tactic = use assault rockets all the time, thats basically an easy one!

ICE*T
08-03-2007, 10:23 AM
noob tactic = use assault rockets all the time, thats basically an easy one!

:shakehead:No by noob tactics I mean acting like a noob to lure the enemy into doing something stupid to gain an advantage

farmergiles
08-03-2007, 10:05 PM
Well technically using the easiest killing weapon the game is acting like a noob.....though granted it doesnt lure the enemy coz the enenmy can't avoid it full stop anyway!

Roger Smith
08-04-2007, 12:55 AM
teh easiest weapon in the game is the l85.. er um, voss.

KC-10
08-04-2007, 02:39 AM
And yet, in BF2, you people hated the L85A1. No one liked using it, because it was so bloody hard to use.

Roger Smith
08-06-2007, 10:03 PM
should noob tactics really be a tip? i mean, experienced players defeat noob tactics with no problem usually.

oh and the l85 wasnt hard to use at all. it was just a sprayer, just like the voss.

Mattsville
09-17-2007, 05:16 PM
should noob tactics really be a tip? i mean, experienced players defeat noob tactics with no problem usually.

He's not talking about playing like a newb. He's talking about acting like a newb even though he is not.

It's a good tactic sometimes IMO. Say you are low on health and won't last long in a firefight unless you get some health soon, and you spy an enemy rounding a corner towards you, if you drop to one knee and fire the chances of you surviving are slim. But if you can trick him into thinking you are a newb by acting all panicky and as soon as you see him you run for the nearest corner alot of the times the other player will be thinking "zOMG N00b!! Fresh meat!!" and will rush headlong towards you in hot pursuit, only to find you waiting just inside the corner with your knife, grenade, APM, RDX etc.

Or say you spot someone coming towards you under Active Camo and you pretend not to see them and let them get behind you, you just know they are going to grab their knife and try for your tags. But surprise! You've just done a 180 and are now facing them and you've got an Assault Rifle aimed at their head and they've only got a knife and are 20 feet away and they are now fully visible.

I'm just saying I agree with the OP that it isn't always advisable to shoot at everything that moves. Sometimes a little mis-direction can do wonders.

so1id sn@ke
09-18-2007, 10:08 AM
I'm just saying I agree with the OP that it isn't always advisable to shoot at everything that moves. Sometimes a little mis-direction can do wonders.

That pretty much sums it up.

For the most part, I have to use these kinda tactics to get kills, not very good at direct face-to-face combat, maybe because my ping is always above 90, and usually in the 110-120 range (except in 1.4 beta where it's more like 160-170).

Or it could be that I just suck at aiming.

Either way, I find the easiest way to win is through smarts, not reflexes.


Oh and here's a tip: Most times, you can survive thorough a full clip if you're sprinting perpendicular to the person shooting you, the average pubber will have to reload before they chase you to wherever you ran to, this gives you time to set something up (unless they switch to pistol of course). It also frustrates the hell outa the person, who just saw you scamper from one building to another in full view, but not able to do anything about it.

christopherlon
09-18-2007, 10:28 AM
noob tactic is to run in with no previous thought and shoot anything that moves including your own team

so1id sn@ke
09-18-2007, 11:04 AM
That's more of a noob's lack of tactics! :laugh:

5TAK3D
09-18-2007, 12:19 PM
The simplest, and yet strangely very effective noob-like tactic I've seen recently is when you spot an enemy at a distance but you, the smarter player know you're at a disadvantage... head away from them as if you haven't seen them, as if you missed them like a complete noob. Don't fire, or give any indication that you even saw them at all (i.e. don't just turn and run in the other direction). Make it look naturally like you were already headed somewhere else and "feel" safe. More than a few times the last few days, the person has been drawn away to come hunting for the "easy target who didn't see them". Find a nice little spot further along the route than they would expect and just watch for them. Often they get so distracted looking for the easy kill noob, they actually aren't paying attention to anything else.
Easier kill than the one they were hoping to get. ;)

Diamond621
09-19-2007, 02:45 AM
The appearance of weakness can be just as powerful as the appearance of strength. Exploiting this double standard is the path to many victories.

so1id sn@ke
09-19-2007, 09:36 AM
The appearance of weakness can be just as powerful as the appearance of strength. Exploiting this double standard is the path to many victories.

Sounds like Sun-tzu. :)

Ezekiel
09-19-2007, 09:37 AM
The appearance of weakness can be just as powerful as the appearance of strength. Exploiting this double standard is the path to many victories.

Stop being so damn smart lol

Mattsville
09-22-2007, 04:42 PM
Oh and here's a tip: Most times, you can survive thorough a full clip if you're sprinting perpendicular to the person shooting you, the average pubber will have to reload before they chase you to wherever you ran to, this gives you time to set something up (unless they switch to pistol of course). It also frustrates the hell outa the person, who just saw you scamper from one building to another in full view, but not able to do anything about it.

Yeah, I totally agree and use this myself when I can.

Also some of the weapons (Like the Engineer SMG's or the Clark) don't lose that much in CQB when you are strafing sideways in front of your opponent and a lot of the times you can frustrate the bejeezus out of someone trying to shoot you with a Voss or Lambert when they empty their clip towards you and only score 1 or 2 hits on you and you down them with only half a clip. It's only because some weapons don't deviate that much even when moving. I find this works especially well with the pistols! :p

Sounds like Sun-tzu. :)

"All warfare is based on deception. If your enemy is superior, evade him. If angry, irritate him. If equally matched, fight only when success is assured.

You must appear to be weak when strong, distracted when evenly matched, and when you are weak and the enemy is strong, one should not even appear to be there at all." ~ Sun Tsu

I've read a few different english translations of the Art of War and it is pretty good stuff. Truthfully it can be a little hard to figure out how to apply it to your daily life, but there are some good treatments out there that give excellent examples of how to do it.

James Clavell's rendition is one I would recommend very highly if you are interested in reading more. :)

so1id sn@ke
09-23-2007, 01:12 AM
I myself have one translated by a John Minford.

Got it cheap at a bookstore one time. :p