1.4 Beta 2 Is OUT!

[Muiriddin]

Here is the link to the news

http://www.battlefield.ea.com/battlefield/bf/battlefieldnewsdetail.aspx?site_id=R3GK79NA-I9XN-YPOIIREX&storyid=15377

:yay:

[xslaneyx]

I Wish they would hurry up and release it already instead of another beta... been to long now

[Mattsville]

Cool deal, good find, mate!

I am so looking forward to Kit saves...

I thought this was part was interesting... listed among the fixes was this:

"Further fix to prevent "pod surfing". Note that some pod movement will still be possible and is an intended gameplay mechanic to allow the player to have some small choice of landing site and to access rooftops"

Maybe this will spell the end of the rooftop camping debates!

(Kidding! Totally kidding... You know those will never end...)

:nod:

[Biotech2142]

- Smoke from the CM3-N Radar Grenade deploys more quickly. The Radar range has been slightly increased and endures for the duration of the smoke effect.
- The CM3-N Radar Grenade may now be resupplied.
- The screening effectiveness of all smoke grenades has been significantly improved.
- Adjusted Talon heat source position to improve Gunship missile balance.

Now those are serious adjustments :)

I mean, making smoke nades useful and Talon "less powerful"

[Mattsville]

- Smoke from the CM3-N Radar Grenade deploys more quickly. The Radar range has been slightly increased and endures for the duration of the smoke effect.
- The CM3-N Radar Grenade may now be resupplied.
- The screening effectiveness of all smoke grenades has been significantly improved.
- Adjusted Talon heat source position to improve Gunship missile balance.

Now those are serious adjustments :)

I mean, making smoke nades useful and Talon "less powerful"

I'm detecting a wee note of sarcasm.... :)

Seriously though, I am looking forward to seeing what the "new" smoke grenades are like. Some other games (Call of duty 1 comes to mind) have had really well done smoke grenades. And I've found them super useful in a lot of situations.

One situation that an effective smoke screen would come in handy would be attaking the Titan core... Not the side corridors though, I think. That is and always will be the domain of the nade spammer...

But being able to lay down a thick smoke screen before an assault on a heavily defended position would be nice...

[Skates]

- Titans will now spawn up to two gunships per side
- Squad Leaders no longer have to resupply to re-equip destroyed drones

Nice.:cool:

[Mattsville]

Quote:
- Titans will now spawn up to two gunships per side


Holy hotcakes, Batman! I totally missed the part about the gunships...

At least there will now be more people playing at a time now instead of the conga line of 10 people all waiting for the gunship to spawn that you sometimes see...

I wonder if this will be a server setting (i.e. the admin can decide only one gunship at a time per side) or hard coded?

I can just hear the wail of protest from some of the more, *ahem* zealous gunship whoring clans out there if it turns out that they can't turn off the second gunship spawning in their clan servers...

[RangerXML]

ANybody been able to download new patch?

120 folks seem to be downloading this patch at once, damn!

[Dtneter]

zomg no more resupply for squad leaders drones and oh yea smoke nades i think they shud use mine like they are like huge and if its in a dark map you will see a black smoke :D

[Quemical]

I'm gonna give this one a try, i didn't play the first beta

[Oceanicus]

I have not seen any change for the little problem:
"You have lost connection with the server"

Hope they have correct it... I'm not able to finish 2/3 of the rounds with it. And I like the adjustments of patch 1.4.

[Erhardt]

Looks like some good changes/fixes.

Little sad about the lack of love for the Accipiter, though. I completely understand it must be a horror to balance well, but it needs something to make it worth taking for it's own sake. Right now I'll only use it on small maps and have my guys slap scanners onto it, and even at that, 9 times out of 10 I still forget to do it because I'm so used to not bothering with it.

[Quemical]

If dice would setup the accipiter like it was setup on the conflict 2142 mod, it would be a real weapon to fear

[SonicPixel]

Yay, just yay!!! :yay:

Nice changes on the way.

[jackal22]

tankers are going to get pissed on titan lol

[Ghost 1800]

tankers are going to get pissed on titan lol

eh, it'll give people a reason to use a SAAW, make the players less territorial over the gunship, and give the air crews a potential wingman (something that was definitely missing in titan mode). If air power gets a little more attention, that's probably not a bad thing in 2142.

[Erhardt]

If dice would setup the accipiter like it was setup on the conflict 2142 mod, it would be a real weapon to fear
I installed Conflict 2142, but haven't really spent much time with it at all yet. What did they do to the Accipiter?

[Dtneter]

yea i actually was gonna ask the same about it.... guess ill got to take a look at the tweak :P

[Ghost 1800]

It'd be nice if there were servers other then from the UK... oh well...

[Gunwing]

eh, it'll give people a reason to use a SAAW, make the players less territorial over the gunship, and give the air crews a potential wingman (something that was definitely missing in titan mode). If air power gets a little more attention, that's probably not a bad thing in 2142.

Yeah I often find that although if not dealt with the Gunships can be a major problem, that if you have at least one guy with a SAAW in his hands you can scare off the Gunship with ease after shooting your two shots off at em. This will mean that Titan mode will have alot more going on in the air, and ground pounders will just have to deal with it.

It was always a sad thing when you ran to jump into the Gunship with your buddie and somebody else got their first. Now you can both wait for another one to spawn and have some realy fun times with 4 gunships in the air all at once with all the transports that the Titans spawn there will be planty of targets in the air now and Gunships will need to finaly make a choice to attack the aircraft or ground pound some infantry/tankers.

[Namakan]

this sounds like a massive improvement

[SonicPixel]

I might become a gunship dude after this patch with 2 gunships per side on Titan maps. The change log sounds really good.

The Conflict 2142 mod buffed the Accipiter and Sentry AI. They are much more lethal than in vanilla. In fact, the Accipiter will kill anyone who kills you more than 60% of the time, so it has been getting cool nicknames like, "the vengence drone" and "instant karma"...

[Ghost 1800]

Now does this mean that after the first gunship leaves, the next one will spawn after a certain amount of time? Because that seems like a rather tight squeeze for 3 aircraft.

[RottnJP]

Yeah, I'm sure it's going to be like the transports are now- First one leaves, 2nd one spawns right away. Then, once they're both out, one of 'em has to get killed before it can respawn.

[Basil.]

Now does this mean that after the first gunship leaves, the next one will spawn after a certain amount of time? Because that seems like a rather tight squeeze for 3 aircraft.

its just like the transports.

[.reZ- ViolatorX]

Guess they arnet doing the sentry guns shooting though walls then? At least its finally coming out I guess..

Its will be interesting to see what they bugger up this time though....

[somtwift]

Will the 1.4 beta 2 patch allow you to fall back to the 1.25 servers without reverting to a backup install? Yes, I was one of the ones who installed the 1.4 beta 1 and couldn't play on 1.25 servers until I did a complete reinstall.

[wes-dog]

Is the patch only available to a couple Preferred Hosts? Branzone refuses to update my servers because it's a beta and not stable. Since 1.25 is not stable I thought that is funny. Any Hosts out there updating their customer's servers when requested?

[RottnJP]

Will the 1.4 beta 2 patch allow you to fall back to the 1.25 servers without reverting to a backup install? Yes, I was one of the ones who installed the 1.4 beta 1 and couldn't play on 1.25 servers until I did a complete reinstall.

Always back up your install... There's a thread that explains how to do it, I think in "Tips & Tricks"

[gamefoo]

BF2142 still being beta tested? No thanks I'll beta test Crysis :P

[RottnJP]

Is the patch only available to a couple Preferred Hosts? Branzone refuses to update my servers because it's a beta and not stable. Since 1.25 is not stable I thought that is funny. Any Hosts out there updating their customer's servers when requested?

Only EA beta servers. No "customer" servers yet. That's why it's a beta- limited release.

[wes-dog]

Only EA beta servers. No "customer" servers yet. That's why it's a beta- limited release.

I wish they had indicated that on the download page. Now all our clan members have to uninstall and install the game again so they can play on our servers. If the beta is more stable than 1.25 you would think they would allow hosts to run it.

[Wizrdwarts]

Are there servers in the US or at least some that I can get a decent ping on the west coast?

[RangerXML]

EA doesn't want to give us servers on the west coast in America, they wanna make all the Brits feel like there better then us Yankees. Especially after we whooped 'em and kicked them outta their own colonies and then later came and rescued 'em from the Krauts.

Doesn't this just bring us back to BF1942 :P

[SonicPixel]

Oh boy, that's going to make you zero friends, mate. Your naked, ignorant arrogance is appalling.

[Wizrdwarts]

Do I smell sarcasm?

[SonicPixel]

I certainly hope he was attempting humor. At least that would give him a reason to say those things.

I've got good friends in the UK and Germany and don't appreciate anyone thinking that kind of conversation is appropriate. This is an international forum and nationalistic buggery has no place here.

[RangerXML]

I'm a German citizen living in the US, yes this is called sarcasm :P

*EDIT*Last time I checked I insulted a Brit worst by calling him English. If you don't know what I mean by that ask one, not a joke.

[SonicPixel]

Well, I guess, "...we whooped 'em and kicked them outta their own colonies and then later came and rescued 'em from the Krauts."

Seems strange coming out of you, then. Am I wrong for assuming this was coming from an American perspective, yet you are German. wtf? You were the folks we were rescuing the Brits from...

.

[Wizrdwarts]

Doesn't this just bring us back to BF1942 :P

Doesn't that just scream "joke"?

[SonicPixel]

Well, I have to admit that it doesn't seem funny to me. So, I move along...

[RangerXML]

I like the patch overall, just not the ping.

[Wizrdwarts]

So no West Coast servers then? :(

[Minmaster]

zzzz...wake me when the patch is done...

i ain't a beta tester.

[RottnJP]

Ummm.... I'm not nationalistic about my buggery.... I'll do a German, Brit, Aussie, you name it. But, I'm an open-minded, giving kind of person...

[Ghost 1800]

... soo.... about those U.S. servers...

[RottnJP]

Can't say yet. DL'ing FirstStrike mod now, then patch later or tomorrow. But, based on the first beta, I'd guess there will always be a decent pinging server for you, but it may not always be a populated one...

[Minmaster]

zzz....

i wonder when they plan on fixing the EU transport 3rd seat shooting blanks bug.

it's been about a year, so probably never.

[Spuddy]

So how's the pod surfing?

(I don't even have BF2142 installed at the moment, so I can't test it myself)

[RMcLeod]

EA doesn't want to give us servers on the west coast in America, they wanna make all the Brits feel like there better then us Yankees. Especially after we whooped 'em and kicked them outta their own colonies and then later came and rescued 'em from the Krauts.

Doesn't this just bring us back to BF1942 :P

Mate, I know this was a poor attempt at humour but leave it out, if you can't get your basic historic facts right then what you say can't be taken as anything other than arrogance.

It's like me saying... no I won't on second thoughts.

Also the Brit you insulted was obviously not English, Scottish maybe? They seem to take it worse than the Welsh. TBH these days the majority of Brits see themselves as either English, Scottish or Welsh first, British second and European only in the sense that we're on the same continent.

[pilvlp]

- RDX Shotgun now detonates RDX, Motion Mines, AP Mines with minimum of 2 rounds.

Freakin' sweet.

[Sentience]

zzz....

i wonder when they plan on fixing the EU transport 3rd seat shooting blanks bug.

It is in fact still shooting. It's a difficult issue to resolve but it's something we're continuing to look into.

Any comments on what you think about the patch so far guys?

[Minmaster]

looking into it? that very thing was said months ago and it brought about no solution. hopefully this time looking into will lead to being proactive.

[Micster]

I think when they mention "Look into", they really are just looking at it. :p

Just saw the part that claims to make Smoke Nades more effective, a must use once the patch is out. :D

[pilvlp]

When I try to install it, it says I have a newer version...

[StoneCold313]

It is in fact still shooting. It's a difficult issue to resolve but it's something we're continuing to look into.

Any comments on what you think about the patch so far guys?

Check your PM, i sended you few pointers what should get DICE's attention.

[Turdnugget]

alright. well just played a few rounds and must say that so far it looks good.

1. clark rof buff = awesome

2. Beacon pod surfing was notably nerfed but, but still is possible to move short distances. No more flying across the map.. woot

3. The apc/titan pod surf glitch was not addressed and needs to be fixed. Fixing one type of pod surf but not the other.:confused::confused::confused: (This seems like an easy fix) Without going into to much detail dice needs to make it so the mouse axis is not a valid bind for some functions. (Dice you can pm me if you want to know what i mean)

4. The extra gunship is probably the best part ( if you like to fly) This led to tons of air traffic. This is how it should have always been.:):) Although I did not play a long time, it seemed like the gunships were alot more balanced.

6. No crashes yet.

[Vp2008]

the squad leader becon stills need to be resupplied right?

[Talbot]

EA doesn't want to give us servers on the west coast in America, they wanna make all the Brits feel like there better then us Yankees. Especially after we whooped 'em and kicked them outta their own colonies and then later came and rescued 'em from the Krauts.

Doesn't this just bring us back to BF1942 :P

I know this was your own attempt at humour but I'll knock you in to place all the same

First and foremost: Noone cares.

Second: Us 'Brits' won most of the battles and skirmishes and you had to get the French/Spanish/Dutch to basically win it for you. Thats lame, real lame. We still utterly owned you when you tried to invade Canada with an army 4x the size of ours.

Third: Without Britain, there would have been no D-Day which means no democracy in Europe... simply communism or facism depending on how you want to debate it. I know the Americans are proficient at stealing credit for British accomplishments (*Cough*U571*Cough*) but your comment just don't go anywhere mate.

So back to history class where you aren't being taught by Captain America.

Tata now.

[nemes1s]

Bah.. I'm just gonna wait for the final version, less headache.

[RangerXML]

So back to history class where you aren't being taught by Captain America.


Did we not read any further? My history teacher would of been Red Skull. Atleast Captain America is original...Captain Britain is just a cheap knock off.

I love the new Clark rate of fire, fun on infantry maps, but the RDX version still needs the accuracy tweaks, I find it shooting off at weird angles.

[Catziggy]

Captain Britian??? wasnt that Tony Blair before he retired???

[SonicPixel]

No, it was Ziggy Stardust...