3rd person mod *screen inside*

[kohaku892002]

hey everyone after messing with some files my friend and i got this mod to work, we are still tweaking the camera a bit, and we are also gonna add a toggle option between 3rd and 1st person views, expect an installer soon, (moderators, please feel free to delete or lock my soldier cameras topic) anyway, any comments on how you guys would want the camera set up would be appreciated :), yes i know it needs a crosshair, remember this is just the early stages, we will impliment a crosshair
http://img152.echo.cx/img152/2069/screen14gk.jpg

[Lord_Fox]

Wow, that looks sweet.
Will download when you release it.

[wolfi]

3P view with crosshair? NICE!
I dont think the crosshair-thing is possible but just try.
I really would like to see myself in 3P sometimes to make sure that no1 can see me in my cover.
Please set the camera changing key to "C" like the one on the vehicles :)

And i will download it of course :eek:

[kohaku892002]

hey guys, thanks for the replies, here is an updated pic of the cameras, the crosshair is still being worked on though, and yes the default toggle button will be C for camera change :)

http://img301.echo.cx/img301/7538/screen119ik.jpg

[CXZAR]

WOW That really looks like a charm!!! and damn, put me in line to download it ;) by the way, if u can release a version without crosshair, it'll be cool too.. at least for me

[kohaku892002]

CXZAR there will be a version without a crosshair as well

[FatJoe]

Nice work, mates.. Looking forward to it

Cheers
Joe

[sirnaut]

Nice work guys

[kohaku892002]

hey guys, glad you all like how it looks so far, we are hoping to release a beta of the mod this week, if all goes according to plan, then it should be out by wednesday, meanwhile here are a couple of new screens:

http://img301.echo.cx/img301/2391/screen1116yt.jpg

http://img301.echo.cx/img301/6025/screen111116ms.jpg

[Drifter]

if u could toggle a X hair for those who like 3rd person that would be awesome

[evogre3n]

I understand its a mod but...
It is a FIRST PERSON SHOOTER after all :p

[kohaku892002]

lol yeah i know its a first person shooter, but all the animations for a 3rd person view were there, not to mention there will be a toggle feature, 3rd person would be useful to see how good your cover actually is

[evogre3n]

ya, but its like.. in real life, you cant see all around you. :p

I would love this feature, its just.. ya know, realism blah blah blah.. w/e

It would be awesome if you could add it for tank aswell, then we can see when peopel are placing C4 on us :p

[Badlizzard2]

You can see around you when in a tank, hit f10, f11 etc f9 puts you back in the tank. The reason this is excluded for the soldier model is because people use it to see over objects and around corners, things that should not be allowed.

I can only hope that punkbuster will catch this and kick you for using it.

[Ace101]

I hope not lol :D I love 3rd person :D

[Lord_Fox]

I can only hope that punkbuster will catch this and kick you for using it.


Can't imagine you will be able to use it online anyway.
But useful for singleplayer,making vids etc.

[[21CWDev]JD7]

Excellent Effort - can't wait for this to be released. Very useful for movie making.

[$G-MONEY SMITH$]

why dont the mods get you cant use this in multi player they will kick you for modded content!!!

[Mayhem]

Wow looks cool, so cool,

This 3rd person could be used for far combat and running, flying, driving etc...
(crosshair be hard to make I think)

Then when you get called into close combat just press "C" quickly then you have your crosshair to aim again.

I mean you will get used to far combat once you have masterd were the shooting ( firing ) range and style is,

As long as you can switch from 1st to 3rd real quick it will be awsome, ( EA should make everyone download it )

Cool MOD

Reply to number 17: ya awsome for vid making, screenshots etc...

[LancerEvoX]

Well, mods cant be used online, but he said it was for singleplayer usage.

[kohaku892002]

yeah it was created for SP use, sheesh, i dont cheat nor do i intend to, this does not allow you to cheat either, and if your friends want to play co op over a LAN, then it would be fair because everyone would have the option to use it..

[zymyo]

Adding the crosshair is not complicated, it can be setup perpendicular to the player's head movement, you can see the crosshair about an 1nch farther from the player model, or you can put a key that changes from the 3rd person view to OTS, over the should camera, then its much accurate for a 3D crosshair, you can get very creative with the way you can add this, just make it work, and ill dll it :)

[CXZAR]

i will personally use the one without crosshair, i think i love iron sigs too much :P

[kohaku892002]

there will be a version with and without the crosshair, also there will be an uninstaller for those who dont like it :)

[kohaku892002]

i dont make hacks or anything, i dont even know how to make a hack

[imported_Silent]

yea i just want to for singleplayer .... im hoping the camera is in a fixed position so u move the camera and the player moves with it like socom 2 thing :D

[kohaku892002]

the camera moves with the player :)

[imported_Silent]

thank god lol will we be able to go into iron sights .. if we hav the cross hair version

[kohaku892002]

i dunno about the iron sights, possibly, but we dunno yet

[Fraggczar]

uhrm i've looked over the bf2 files that our lookable and it seems making this crosshair version might take some time so I suggest you release the non-crosshair version before you release the crosshair one

[kohaku892002]

hey guys, we are gonna release the beta of the mod early, there will be no crosshair, no toggle option, but there will be an uninstaller, this is just for you guys to test it out.., hopefully tonight or tomorrow guys :)

[iH473]

coolies! hand it over! :)

[Fraggczar]

Holy crap you deserv a beer

[kohaku892002]

here it is guys!!! my friend said the installer will be delayed so i released this, if the instructions are hard to follow pm me and i'll help ya out, enjoy!

http://files.filefront.com/3rd_person_mod_for_BF2;3925199;/fileinfo.html


DONT FORGET TO BACKUP YOUR Objects_server.zip!!!!!!

[imported_Silent]

ah thanks man ur my god haha we should hail god kohaku! haha anyways cant wait for crosshair!

[kohaku892002]

did it work for you? post how you like it guys :)

[Fraggczar]

WEWT! but the readme is confusing as hell :confused:

[Lord_Fox]

Sweet...

[Fraggczar]

Goddamn the objects_server file is ****ing huge takes to damn long to extract

[kohaku892002]

guys, pm me if you have any trouble..

[Fraggczar]

I hate winzip :rolleyes:

[kohaku892002]

ok this, first of all, dont extract the objects_server.zip into an objects_server folder, extract all the files to the directory of the objects_server.zip, the replace the soldiers folder, then zip all the files that came out of the objects_server.zip back into a file called objects_server.zip

[Fraggczar]

Nap sorry homie just crashes on a map when it loads objects about at 5%
you must have left some file out or somethin.

EDIT: I found out whats wrong or im guessing whats wrong you zipped the files in soldier/soldier thats two folders named soldier so it doesnt get read when the game starts up

[kohaku892002]

hmmm, it works on my installation as well as my brothers... do you have the demo or retail?


oooops i put the soldiers foldier with all the files in the soldiers folder lol, take it outta the first soldiers folder and it should work... sorry guys

[Fraggczar]

lol yeh look at meh edit :D

[kohaku892002]

it should work now guys, so sorry about that

[Fraggczar]

God the player models in bf2 are amazing I mean you can see the weapons reloading not just the player moving his hand like hes reloading. This mod needs a toggle feature and crosshairs. but I have to say its not likely that your going to be able to make a crosshair. but if you do this is going to be one of my most played bf2 mods :D

[kohaku892002]

thanks man, glad you like it, and yeah the player models are great, nice little animations and stuff :)

[enterman]

I hate winzip :rolleyes:
U should try WinRAR. Im DL now. Cant wait for it to be done (have to wait 5 min. in filefront wait line for DLs :rolleyes: )

[wolfi]

I really miss the toggle option :cry:
Playing support guy all the time, otherwise i couldnt hit something :laugh:

[kohaku892002]

the toggle option is coming guys, lol i can hit things decently with any class, just takes some practice ;)

[enterman]

the toggle option is coming guys, lol i can hit things decently with any class, just takes some practice ;)
Wow. good job guys. This is really sweet! cant wait for crossair and toggle option.

[kohaku892002]

so... is anyone having trouble, or is it working ok?

[imported_Silent]

working good for me note there is a easyer way of installing if u hav winrar open up the zip and it shows all the folders in the zip... right click in blank spot go down to add new folder and add the soldiers folder from kohaku zip worked for me and i didnt hav to wait at all!!!

works good but id like to see the camera in a little different postion so u can see ahead more



by zip i mean objects_server zip

[SL4Y3R]

yes!!!!!! i always loved the 3rd person in dc cant wait for it looks good

[wolfi]

works great except one thing: the zoom. it zooms in if youre on 3p too.
but im sure you fix this :)

and thanks for the credits :laugh:

[kohaku892002]

yeah guys, things are being worked out with the mod, we hope to release a better version soon :)

[wolfi]

Cant wait for the toggle button.
Modified my M249 so it works fine.
It now shoots the 30mm :confused: HE rounds from the chinese apc. There are 4 mags with 1500 rounds each.
accuracy is 100% and rate of fire is set to 1500 rounds per minute. Thats a lot of fun though :laugh:
Now i hit EVERYTHING, even when playing in 3P mode. And it could be used as a Jetpack :laugh:

[Fraggczar]

enterman yeah I have winrar just keep forgetting to change the file types. Cant wait for toggle either :D

[kohaku892002]

and guys if you want to use the mod for one of your mods, feel free to, but just give those in the readme credit for it ok?

[wolfi]

I am in your credits. And youll be in my credits if i use it for a project :)

[Fraggczar]

Ehehe I just got 5 kills in thirdperson

[imported_Silent]

id also lov to see some cross hairs for tanks and helis maybe even for the missles !

im still nervous about the cross hair ... show me show me showme im wrong lol

[Swoop]

Hey Guys. Here's a much easier method to get your mods working and all it requires is adding/removing "rem" from a statement in your serverarchives folder. You don't need to unzip, rezip, extract, or anything.

Now, the zipfile's pathnames need to change for this to work, so the files all go back into the correct spots when the game loads.

The top folders in the zipfile have to be \soldiers (Mine had \soldiers\soldiers\(filename) and it needs to be \soldiers\(filename.)

1. So, place the zipfile in the mods\modname folder (ie, X:/Program Files/EA Games/Battlefield2/mods/bf2.)
2. Edit your serverarchives.con file in the same folder to reflect the below text:
fileManager.mountArchive objects_3p.zip Objects
fileManager.mountArchive Objects_server.zip Objects
fileManager.mountArchive Menu_server.zip Menu
fileManager.mountArchive Common_server.zip Common
Note: it should appear at the top, since the upper lines take precedence.
3. Run your map the way you always do.
4. Put a "rem" in front of the mod line in the serverarchives.con file to disable the mod.

In no way do I want to take credit from kohaku892002 or his team! I just want to offer another way to mount this mod and a method for using future mods. This is how we do it on another forum I watch. Enjoy!

PS - The way I fixed the "soldiers" redundant zipfile pathname was to extract it all somewhere, then move the lower soldiers path into the parent of the upper soldiers path so they are merged. I answered yes to overwrite anyfiles, and then I re-zipped it. I also renamed kohaku892002's zipfile to objects_3p.zip in the example.

[kohaku892002]

hey Swoop, your way works, nice job :), and you guys the crosshair thing is a little difficult but we will do our best to get it in

[Swoop]

hey Swoop, your way works, nice job :)
Hey glad to help out! :)

and you guys the crosshair thing is a little difficult but we will do our best to get it in
No kidding! I was able to get a crosshair in another mini-mod of my own, but this is a monster trying to get the crosshair in!

[$G-MONEY SMITH$]

theres an easier way just extract the 3rdperson file to my documents or whatever, then go into ur objects folder and delete soldier but make a copy of it then take teh one you extracted earlier and put it in there wala. the crosshair if possible will just pwn its one awsome mod i love it.

[kohaku892002]

Swoop if you manage to get the crosshair in before we do, please inform us on how to do it :)

[Swoop]

Swoop if you manage to get the crosshair in before we do, please inform us on how to do it :)
You betcha!

Have had very strange results, but nothing worthwhile just yet.

FYI - You may already know this: check out the guiIndex.txt file under menu_server.zip. It might help out as a reference.

[$G-MONEY SMITH$]

guys i got into a multiplayer game on accident i forgot to take teh files out and i got in without any problems, it was utterly useless casue i couldnt kill anyone so... one suggestion you know when zoomed in, the camera looks at the ground almost, it should look over his shoulder that would kick ***, and then you could implent the crosshair only when you right click.

[kohaku892002]

you can get into multiplayer?? great ... now the moderators will prolly ban this.. :(

[Fraggczar]

lol why you cant freakin aim it has no crosshair you call sucking a cheat?

(im not saying this mini-mod sucks im saying that there is no way you can get a great score in MP with this mod) if the mods ban this then it will show us that they are t3h nazi

[imported_Silent]

actually thats not a bad idea g money , that might be easyier (crosshair idea)


yea not a big advantage online YET anyways

[Johnny Bravo]

is the one with crosshairs released yet :rolleyes:

[wolfi]

Im only waiting 4 the toggle option.
I dont care if this works in mp games, i dont play mp that often..

[$G-MONEY SMITH$]

well yeah, this is lame in multi becasue you cant kill a sole, so mods please dont ban this, but yeah i mean the thing with the over the soulder view would rock guys please listen to me just make a crosshair when u right click would be very very nice, kinda like ghost recon, as of now when u right click the camera just basicly looks at the ground. thank you ver much for this awsome mod.

[Johnny Bravo]

Im only waiting 4 the toggle option.
I dont care if this works in mp games, i dont play mp that often..

wat do u mean by "the toggle option"? :confused:

[Fraggczar]

to toggle from first person and third

[Swoop]

Edit: "Toggle" meaning Toggle it on and off (or back and forth) with a bound Key, like 'C'

[kohaku892002]

G-Money, i really think your idea sounds nice, i'll look into it :)

[$G-MONEY SMITH$]

thanks man sorry if i get this thread deleted or something for saying the multi player thing... :hmm:

[kohaku892002]

yeah sure you can see around corners, how can you kill anyone though?

[Fraggczar]

lol but I honestly think the crosshair thing Cannot be done unless the camera follows the aim of the gun like in battlefront

[imported_Silent]

yea im kinda thinking that to

[Johnny Bravo]

ok i'll try to figure out how to put crosshairs,some1 said about a guiIndex.txt,mabey the #5 goes somewhere

[RangerX3X]

Nice hack. I hope anyone who uses this in a ranked server is caught and permanently banned from playing Battlefield 2.

No spin you put on this will make it anything other than a hack.

[$G-MONEY SMITH$]

wow, wtf is you problem you *******, you just come and reply in here and say something like get off these forums you scumbag.

[wolfi]

Nice hack. I hope anyone who uses this in a ranked server is caught and permanently banned from playing Battlefield 2.

No spin you put on this will make it anything other than a hack.
The ability to use it online just is a "bug". It doesnt bring an advantage of any kind. It isnt ment to be a hack. Its a "micromod" for singleplayer or the base for other camera angles in any upcoming mod.
Please respect this :hmm:
And if you dont like it, read other threads :thatsbad:

[imported_Silent]

we could argue with this guy but forget it everyone knows its for singleplayer

so lets get back to the SINGLEPLAYER mod

any progress?

[Johnny Bravo]

so is the crosshair version done yet?

[imported_Silent]

i dont think so


i dont think they kno how to even get it in yet

let alone making it work

[$G-MONEY SMITH$]

but if you cant get teh crosshair, the better camera for the right click view would be great thanks kohaku for listening to me. ;)

[bugkill]

kohaku892002 ,

is it possible for you to change the camera angle? it would be better if you could have a view from behind (would help with shooting the enemy) or a "over the shoulder" shot like splinter cell.

[kohaku892002]

yes we are working on a better camera angle, and to the guy that said this was a hack, dude go ahead, play online with it, id like to see you get any good kills with it, if anything it'll make you suck horribly, and it was meant for single player so just shut up ok

lol we dont know how to get the crosshair in yet but we are trying guys, and G-Money if we get the crosshair in i'll make a version for you of the mod you wanted :)

[evogre3n]

Hey i've been watching this, it looks great. I can't wait till you get a that crosshair in, that would just top it off :)

Enjoyin every second of this mini-mod, thanks :)

[$G-MONEY SMITH$]

yes we are working on a better camera angle, and to the guy that said this was a hack, dude go ahead, play online with it, id like to see you get any good kills with it, if anything it'll make you suck horribly, and it was meant for single player so just shut up ok

lol we dont know how to get the crosshair in yet but we are trying guys, and G-Money if we get the crosshair in i'll make a version for you of the mod you wanted :)
thank you very much i apreciate that. ;)

[Fraggczar]

A hack, god what a ****ing idiot. But hey theres always some idiot like that in every forum, they just flame to flame I guess it makes their epenis feel bigger.

[imported_Silent]

good way to put it fragg lol ur posts are the best!

[Swoop]

Good stuff, guys! I am loving the entertainment value of today's posts in here. :)

NO luck today on my end for the crosshair, but yes, a GuiIndex of 5 is the yellow crosshair you see on most weapons' primary fire mode. This may not be the way in, but its worth experimenting with.

I am also futzing with the weapons & vehicle huds and comparing to the soldier's hud. I am curious what keeps you from changing your view like you can in a vehicle. I can't seem to find where that is defined. Perhaps that is our answer. I dunno.

Gotta go to bed.

Night all.

No, wait! I'm gonna go play MULTIPLAYER WITH THIS MINI-MOD and you can't stop me!! Mwahahahaha! ;)

[ArmyOfOne*]

Very SOCOM II ish i love it! qeustion though, will you be able to look through your sites if you like?

[wolfi]

Gotta go to bed.

Night all.

No, wait! I'm gonna go play MULTIPLAYER WITH THIS MINI-MOD and you can't stop me!! Mwahahahaha! ;)
lmao :laugh:

[kohaku892002]

watch out guys, that moron might accuse you of hacking lol, stupid noob

we are trying to configure the sights

[evogre3n]

im excited for when the crosshairs are implemented :)

[Johnny Bravo]

like i said in another thread,is it released yet???

[kohaku892002]

the crosshair version, no, the mod yes, by the way guys i was playing in 3rd person and i dunno what i did but a crosshair showed up on my screen, next time it happens i'll take a screenie

[$G-MONEY SMITH$]

hahah sweet. this will rock i will play single player so much if this works out.

[Swoop]

the crosshair version, no, the mod yes, by the way guys i was playing in 3rd person and i dunno what i did but a crosshair showed up on my screen, next time it happens i'll take a screenie

Awesome! Maybe it can happen accidentally ALL the time. :D

[imported_Silent]

yep it happend to me toooo it happends when i pick up a different kit somtimes but the cross hair is like on the player and its no use at all

[Fraggczar]

yeh because your gonna have to somehow get the camera to follow the gun or else the crosshair will be there but the gun will be pointing somewhere else.

[kohaku892002]

yeah dont worry, we are experimenting with it, we are gonna see if we can move the crosshair, and see if we make progress there first

[Fraggczar]

If you suceed god will send you naked virgins and lots of beer and pot.

[Swoop]

If you suceed god will send you naked virgins and lots of beer and pot.

In THAT case, I better get busy! :laugh:

But, seriously, yesterday I was saying that if we looked at how you can change views on the vehicles and aircraft but you can't on soldiers, that may be one place we could concentrate. Today I studied the JEEP_FAAV.tweak file and noticed that they are creating cameras for: the jeep itself, the pilot, the front gunner, and the rear gunner. That's 4 camera slots, each with a different offset. Of course, 3 of these camera views change only when you change position in the jeep. But it's the jeep_faav camera (main) that is able to be toggled thru 4 diff views (inside, chase, front chase, fly-by). Why are these 4 views allowed for the jeep but not the soldier. I am still hunting to find where this is defined, but feel this may be the key.

Keep ya posted,
Swoop

[imported_Silent]

good work i beleive thats the right track maybe we could make a new camera view!??? maybe we need the editor???

[Travace]

i just have 1 question ?

if i install this minimod will i have to uninstall it to get past punkbuster ?

jsut want to know if i have to keep switching this out everytime i want to play singleplayer or ranked servers .

[Fraggczar]

no but I wouldent use it for mp cuz you cant hit **** in it

[imported_Silent]

yea ull want to take it out everytime u go to mp or goodbye to ur rank haha

[Swoop]

i just have 1 question ?

if i install this minimod will i have to uninstall it to get past punkbuster ?

jsut want to know if i have to keep switching this out everytime i want to play singleplayer or ranked servers .

You just want to use the mountarchive command in serverarchives.con. I believe its detailed in this post a page or two back. put a REM in front of it when you want to play online. ....unless Punkbuster looks for an altered serverarchives.con file. ;)

[Tk-421]

First off, nice work on the mod. 8) I think you should ditch the quest for crosshairs. IMO, it makes the mod less credible as it appears that those who use it would be trying to game the system. I personally would still consider it a hack because it gives the player who uses this mod an unfair advantage over those who don't have it.

You can see around you when in a tank, hit f10, f11 etc f9 puts you back in the tank. The reason this is excluded for the soldier model is because people use it to see over objects and around corners, things that should not be allowed.

I can only hope that punkbuster will catch this and kick you for using it.


I fail to see how this mod is different from DC? I understand and sympathize with your concerns, but I could just as easily argue that tanks/vehicles/aircraft are not locked in the first person view, thus allowing them to look behind them and have other "un-natural" viewpoints which they can & do exploit to their advantage. Surely you would agree with me that such things while unrealistic actually add to the gameplay (provided it is standard -- everyone has the ability to use it). Also, switching to the external camera in a vehicle gives you greater coverage and allows you to view over fences, etc. more-so than you would ever normally be allowed in first-person view.

[kohaku892002]

again, the ability to use in it MP is just a bug, it was and still is intended for SP use ONLY

hmm i wonder how many more people will call this a hack...

[imported_Silent]

jeezz SINGLE PLAYER DO U GET THAT S I N G L E P LA Y ER FOR GOD SAKES JUST LET US HAV SOME FUN FOR SINGLEPLAYER


people are jerks these days jeez i really wish this topic was on battlefieldsingleplayer cuss we dont got nosy stupid online only players who cant get it into there heads we dont want to play with online

kohaku keep workin we might hav to wait for the editor

and i say again singleplayer rules! onlines for nerds lol

[kohaku892002]

yeah really, stupid people, "i consider it a hack" yeah well i consider you a noob :)

[wolfi]

The ability to switch camera views in vehicles is unrealistic, but a lot of fun.
I dont use it for looking over walls or behind me, i use it to make screenshots or landing a helo perfectly..

[Swoop]

The ability to switch camera views in vehicles is unrealistic, but a lot of fun.
I dont use it for looking over walls or behind me, i use it to make screenshots or landing a helo perfectly..

Amen to THAT! :D

[Fraggczar]

How is it an advantage you idiot you cant hit anything!

[kohaku892002]

exactly, im starting to get sick of the people messaging me and posting here calling this a hack, damn why cant people understand its for single player!?

[imported_Silent]

any progress? do we hav to wait untill the editor is released??

[Travace]

The ability to switch camera views in vehicles is unrealistic, but a lot of fun.
I dont use it for looking over walls or behind me, i use it to make screenshots or landing a helo perfectly..

you dont need this mod to switch camera views in vehicles

you do need it to do it while not in a vehicle


and as far as people PMing you

you got to understand weether you INTENDED it for SP if it is possable to be used in multyplayer then it is a Hack as it brings a unfair advantage to the battleground.

doesnt matter what your intensions are its the intensions of cheaters and exploiters that people will get mad about.

[kohaku892002]

heh this mod is prolly gonna get banned, just watch

[wolfi]

I understand it brings an unfair advantage but I DONT CARE!!

I NEED this mod. Not for switching cams in vehicles but for player models. Since i make soldier skins i need a chase view, better a fixed "drive by" view to take cool screenshots WITHOUT the damn battlerecorder.

[kohaku892002]

heh do you guys think EA will get angry at this mod?

[wolfi]

Why? DC did it, you did it.
So why should you stop developing this mod? ;)

[kohaku892002]

well DC is a full blown mod, this is just a mini mod for BF2, the original game, and plus you have these morons crying hacks, god i swear EA is gonna get pissed

[evogre3n]

errr... forget about it, right now EA isnt doing anything to you, its just a bunch of smaktards who can't accept a good intention. Just keep developing until the "authority" stops you :p or tell you otherwise

[kohaku892002]

yeah i dont play MP much, i have dialup 56k lol, so i play alot of SP, and i thought this mod would be cool to make.. lol another reminded this was never intended to be a hack, and to everyone that is saying so, you people can just shut the F up, ok...

[imported_Silent]

yea if this does get banned come over here me and swoop are regulars at this forum great bunch of guys u should com by somtime ALOT of singleplayer mods and poeple whos main focus is singeplay!
http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~bf42players/index.php?showforum=23

i hear ya man im on 56k to fun isnt it haha

and i think ea could care less about what were doing

[kohaku892002]

k i will post it there if the mods here ban it, in my opinion the mod is harmless, no crosshair, hard to aim right, youre gonna suck in MP :) but the mod was made just for enjoyment, i've only played online once, so yeah, you guys get the point lol

[Fraggczar]

you got to understand weether you INTENDED it for SP if it is possable to be used in multyplayer then it is a Hack as it brings a unfair advantage to the battleground.

doesnt matter what your intensions are its the intensions of cheaters and exploiters that people will get mad about.


There is no advantage at all there is no crosshair therefore you'd be lucky to hit anything its a disadvantage.

Ok thats it this forum is just loaded with e-flaming idiots I suggest a move to Battlefieldsingleplayer as I find those people to be less idiot filled and more open to modding

[kohaku892002]

yeah prolly a good idea.. and yes this forum is full of flaming idiots

[Swoop]

I say we all stay here and make them squirm! :)

[imported_Silent]

haha yea unless we get banned lol

[kohaku892002]

hey guys good news, the toggle option is coming soon! :) its working out nicely... so far anyway, expect it soon hopefully

[imported_Silent]

yay and camera angle? im not even gonna ask about cross hair lol

[kohaku892002]

camera angle is better as well, lol crosshair, no progress yet guys

[imported_Silent]

easyier to kill guys?

[kohaku892002]

oh yeah alot easier, at least for me it is, and the camera looks somewhat over his shoulder when you zoom, more than last time

[[BBF*EF]Rocky]

?? I cant find the objects.server thing.

Heres what i see when i open up the soldiers folder.

Mec
Us
Ch and common

But no objects server thing.

Plus i have looked through all the folders,too.

Where exactly can i locate it?

[[BBF*EF]Rocky]

Anyone?

[imported_Silent]

objects server is a zip thats soldiers is in


if u go battlefield2/mod/bf2 then go down and look at all the zips make a copy of objects server extract it change the files and zip it again

there is an easier way if ur using winrar pm me if u need som more help

[Fraggczar]

Hell yes toggle version :D and oh yeh if we get banned you know where to go bfsp
ehhe


ps. I really hate to say it but I Think crosshair = impossible without mod tools

[imported_Silent]

hehe gota love bfsp :D i think ur gonna hav to make a whole new camera view for the cross hair to work but i think u might need the editor

[RangerX3X]

we could argue with this guy but forget it everyone knows its for singleplayer

so lets get back to the SINGLEPLAYER mod

any progress?

Well then I obviously misread what its purpose was for. My apologies to the developers.

[Fraggczar]

See now I have respect for rangerx3x. A man can make a mistake but you require stout heart to apologize. I apologize for talking about your epenis :D

[Fraggczar]

Hey I have an idea that might help. I've noticed for some of the vehicles in the original bf1942 and maybe even bf2 use a type of camera port. Let me explain For the first person view all they do is position the cam on a part of the vehicle and add a crosshair. Maybe if you make the soldier like that to by placing a camera port somewhere behind him it will follow the gun and then you could add a crosshair. Look around the vehicle cam files, see how first person works in them.

[kohaku892002]

wow, that might just work... gonna try it out, and RangerX3X, no problem :)

[Fraggczar]

Arg I have been digging in files and it appears im totally lost Where are the files that define how the chase cam works. If we can find them then BOOM we'll have crosshairs in no time but it appears there not part of the open source


Edit: im on to somethin guys be back laters

[kohaku892002]

please report what you find :)

[Fraggczar]

I got it but its not working right it goes to third person and the crosshairs are showing but its using the ****ing first person models with 3rd person animations so it looks like something off of the movie "the thing" arg its eating my brain!

[$G-MONEY SMITH$]

good work man keep trying and ill give you a cookie!!

[kohaku892002]

what did you do to get it like that??

[Fraggczar]

Did all you do to get the mod to work is change the variables in SoldierCamera or if not what else did you change ( I MUST KNOW I R SO CLOSE)

[Swoop]

I got it but its not working right it goes to third person and the crosshairs are showing but its using the ****ing first person models with 3rd person animations so it looks like something off of the movie "the thing" arg its eating my brain!

LMAO! :) I know exactly what you're talking about! I did the same thing. I think I tried to create a new soldier camera and that's how it happened.

You know what would be cool? You know how you hold down SHIFT or CTRL and the mouse to MOUSE-LOOK in planes and stuff? Wouldn't it be cool if we could adjust the 3P view with MOUSELOOK??

Well, I'm gonna take a break and go play some coop DCX .9. :)

Peace & Happy Modding!

[Fraggczar]

What we need to do if find out how to kill the first person thing I WANT IT TO DIE! (ignore everything I just said)

What my plan is to add a nosecam to behind the player because nose cams move with the model for instance an airplane, when you turn there is no cam lag the only problem that is preventing me from making this mod the best so far is the fact that it wants to use first person models with 3rd person animations if I try this I have no idea why but it does if ANYONE can solve why this does i'll give them a beer

[kohaku892002]

heh you could replace all the 1st person anims, with 3rd person animations...

[Fraggczar]

that wouldent work. I just need to get it to use the third person player model + 3dperson weapons

[kohaku892002]

to get the mod to work i replaced all the 1st person stuff with the 3rd person stuff, and then edited the soldier cams.. good luck man

[Fraggczar]

o_O I need to know exactly what you did to the .tweak files like us_light.tweak or somethin. If you want to you can just pm me but plz plz I need t3h helpzorz :D

[Johnny Bravo]

wow,166 post and this is the 167th post, wow

[Fraggczar]

Yeah huge thread huh still think it may not be possible for crosshairs. but theres a chance

[={SOC}= Sniper]

Hmmm im also trying to figure it out grrrrrrr it hurts my head!!!

[Fraggczar]

Where are the Cam config files like what defines a chase cam and what defines a nose cam?

[evogre3n]

comeon boys! you can do it :p :D :rock:

[kohaku892002]

i just edited the soldiercamera.tweak, i dunno what defines the nose or chase cam, i disabled them in the third person mod:

ObjectTemplate.CVMInside 0
ObjectTemplate.CVMFlyBy 0
ObjectTemplate.CVMChase 1
ObjectTemplate.CVMFrontChase 0
ObjectTemplate.CVMNose 0
ObjectTemplate.CVMTrace 0
ObjectTemplate.CVMExternTrace 0
ObjectTemplate.cameraShakeSensitivity 0.2
ObjectTemplate.chaseDistance 3.25
ObjectTemplate.chaseAngle 0.29
ObjectTemplate.worldFOV 1.1
ObjectTemplate.insideFOV 1.1

change:
ObjectTemplate.CVMFlyBy 0
to
ObjectTemplate.CVMFlyBy 1
for a flyby cam, etc... for the other cam options in there

dunno if it helps..

[Fraggczar]

Appearntly not :P we need the bf editor or somethin and the damn dev team is on vacation needless to say there will be NO full mods untill late fall.

[kohaku892002]

are you serious?? man, they said it was gonna be released in early july..

[Fraggczar]

Yeah they failed 2 deadlines you think their gonna keep the third? Unless one of the unlucky devs stayed behind and will release it we're ****ed royaly

[kohaku892002]

i dunno i mean comon its EA we are talking about here... they screwed up a patch and now this... maybe it was Dice lol.. either way, EA is involved so yeah..

[Fraggczar]

yeah those damn mod tools better be on my hdd by Friday of next week or im gonna like order the MEC to attack




Alrite im gonna attempt to replace every single 1p animation with the 3p one

[kohaku892002]

best of luck with the crosshair, we cant get anywhere with it either..

[Fraggczar]

Yes I think im close but it may not look as good as I want it to

[kohaku892002]

if you get it remotely working please inform me :)

[Chaser]

I got it but its not working right it goes to third person and the crosshairs are showing but its using the ****ing first person models with 3rd person animations so it looks like something off of the movie "the thing" arg its eating my brain!


Hi, im new here
Im trying to do the same thing (3rd person + crosshair)
But it looks very ... strange xD

Do you have the same problem?

[Fraggczar]

LOL nah its like that but more horrible. Oh yeh welcome to the board Chaser I am glad to see your are trying to help us :D!

PS I have sent out for help http://forum.eagames.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=2617 I hope my thread is not replyed by spam and flaming or worse I hope it is not completely ignored.

[Chaser]

If you look close enough you can a see a blue crosshair on my pic xD

I hope somebody from ea / dice / whatever will answer :(

[Fraggczar]

I wana know how you got it to zoom out that far. The problem is the ****ing cam thing is making the first person models show but it runs the 3rd person animations making them look like that crazy thing which is just horrible and stupid. Bad coding Dicey



What a useless forum... my post was ignored

[Chaser]

I just added "ObjectTemplate.addTemplate Camera" and another few things

xD

How did you solve it? Can you post a Screen

[Fraggczar]

its not solved I cant fix it. I need those cam files but im gonna try what you tried

which files did you put this in?

[Fraggczar]

Oh well from what I can tell all the camera types use first person models but chase, front chase, and flyby. all the rest use first person meaning. Sorry guys there can be NO CROSSHAIR + THIRDPERSON its just not possible using the source we currently have dice has kept their cam files in the gay *** dlls. I give up. If anyone succeeds they need a beer and a hooker

[kohaku892002]

hey guys, we are just as stumped as your are.. no luck, stupid useless EA forums lol. im glad your guys are helping, i really appreciate it :)


damn.. this sucks.. we will still try though.. :(

[Fraggczar]

As will I. I just said I give up because im so ****ing pissed. Im pathetic... getting pisssed off at text.

[={SOC}= Sniper]

where did u find this camera stuff? Im getting close!

[Fraggczar]

I only found the commands for the cameras not the config files for them which we NEED in order to make this work

[kohaku892002]

Sniper what have you got so far?

[Fraggczar]

yes sniper please tell us if we combine are **** maybe something magical will happen :D


Damn I wish Dice had put that damn code in the source :(

Ps snipe want me to post those commands?

[kohaku892002]

lol guys im gonna keep at it, i dunno about you guys.. but if ya do good luck

[={SOC}= Sniper]

well i almost got the crosshairs but i need the stuff that frag said!

[={SOC}= Sniper]

hmmm i found a 3rd person zoom im almost there just need some more things

[kohaku892002]

ok guys, to have a better cam angle, open the soldiercamera.tweak change this line to whatever you guys want:

ObjectTemplate.chaseAngle 0.29

i have it set at .29 because its personallyworking for me :) experiment and find how ya like it

[={SOC}= Sniper]

what does 0.29 look like? if its at the shoulder then i could get the crosshair maybe!!!!!

[kohaku892002]

its quite close to behind the shoulder, just mess with the angle till you get something suitable..

[={SOC}= Sniper]

kohaku what do you think wit the cross hair if u get it almost behind the shoulder or sumtin good think we could implement a crosshair hmm i cant find the crosshair stuff. I wonder where it is!

[kohaku892002]

im guessing its in the animations or hud options somewhere, i cant find it though, still looking..

[={SOC}= Sniper]

My brain hurts!!! Im also still looking :)

[kohaku892002]

set the chase angle line, in soldiercamera.tweak to .28 and its a nice nice view, alot easier to waste people :)

[={SOC}= Sniper]

HOW? it wont let me!

[Fraggczar]

Nah editing the chase wont change anything you cant add hud to chase. You cant add anything to anything all the cam stuff is closed source sadly. Ok thats it give up on the crosshair lets just attempt to make a toggel version

[={SOC}= Sniper]

i cant give up!!!!!! We can do a toggle version ok but u guys do that i will try to get the crosshair in!

[={SOC}= Sniper]

ok frag lets do it :)

[kohaku892002]

heh im just saying that 0.28 chase angle makes it easier to fight with...

and my friend and i are working on the toggle option, gonna try to use a vehicles toggle option for infantry

[={SOC}= Sniper]

so we all joined together eh?? Lets get that toggle version goin!!!

[kohaku892002]

lol i love your determination guys... keep it up :)

[={SOC}= Sniper]

WE cant quit this mod no matter what :) im working on the toggle put it to C for camera change we need to work together

[kohaku892002]

any progress for you guys? no progress here... :(

[={SOC}= Sniper]

nothin here :( we need to keep trying!

[={SOC}= Sniper]

we need more help 4 ppl wont help we need help i will ask!

[kohaku892002]

we need some really good modders... anyone know any??

[={SOC}= Sniper]

hold on i am getting some modders maybe!

[kohaku892002]

nice.. report after you have some info :)

[={SOC}= Sniper]

ok i will keep checking

[kohaku892002]

to really get the crosshair in i expect we are gonna need the mod tools... but the release date just gets pushed back... grr

[={SOC}= Sniper]

we want T3H mod tools we might need them to finish this lovly mod but wait!!! use T3H vehicle camera change thingy and try that if u cant find em ill keep checkin for help!

[wolfi]

I only did some vehicle and weapon coding, no experience with camera files :(

[={SOC}= Sniper]

hey wolfi d/l bf2ee and do the laser designator we can try it out!

[kohaku892002]

so any new ideas guys?

[={SOC}= Sniper]

well we need the modding tools!

[Fraggczar]

We need bf2 editor appearntly it has coding abilitys because almost every text file says it was made in bf2 editor

[imported_annerajb]

suggestion for laser designator. try playing kubra dam 64 and try out the two seater airplane it has laser designated missiles you can test the laser designator with the missiles to see what you get.

[Fraggczar]

I think the f35-b F-18 Mig29 and that chinese jet have lazer guided bombs which would explain why they appear to track

[kohaku892002]

umm guys, i would recommend staying on topic here so the mods dont take it as spam and lock this..

[evogre3n]

Hmm, i have an idea.

You guys are going about this crosshair thing a bit wrong, maybe its just me. But I was watching a socom video just now, and if you notice, the crosshair is still always in the middle, and its the camera angle that changes, simaler to the freecam...

So to implement a crosshair, you dont need to make angles and such, you need to make a freecam for it.. or is this what you guys are trying to do?

Maybe i have no idea what im talking about, but its just somethign i noticed

[imported_Silent]

yea if it gets to be like socom that was awesome thats what kinda 3rd person i want anyways best game for ps2 ever even tho i dont hav one :D

[kohaku892002]

i really think we are gonna have to wait for the mod tools..

[wolfi]

No progress with the toggle option? :cry:

[kohaku892002]

not yet sorry, we are trying our best though

[Fraggczar]

We might but never give up!

[kohaku892002]

any info on the mod tools?? damn EA and Dice, its a good game but we can make it better with the mod tools :)

[Fraggczar]

Maybe in a month or 2

[imported_Silent]

yea i herd end of july but knowing ea and dice who knows

ive kinda gave up for now just been adding more helis to the maps witch has made som maps alot better in my opinion

[kohaku892002]

we need the mod tools ASAP, we still cant get the toggle option working :(

[Seabass]

Hey people keep this thread going, there's got to be a way of doing it. Keep posting your ideas!!

[Fraggczar]

There is none sorry homie :\ but thanks to dices really weird *** open source we cant do **** untill we get our hands on that editor

[kohaku892002]

any updates on the mod tools?

[Bestrafe mich]

Common guys keep working, I love 3 person view. Why dontcha use beta version of editor that is available? Unfortunately it's too complicated for me.

[kohaku892002]

glad to hear ya like it, yes we need the editor to get the crosshair in, my friend said he can help me figure it out when we get the editor, sorry for not updating this, i have been on vacation

[Bestrafe mich]

Here is another thought. I used to play Soldier of Fortune2 a lot with bots in 3rd person and would use actually a hacked opengl file for crosshair. Since this mod is for Single Player I don't see any harm in checking that possibility.

[kohaku892002]

i'll check it out

[wolfi]

Dontcha have the editor? Uh, i see, its illegal :eek:
But who cares?

Already working on a map but i wont talk about this until the editor is out.
Otherwise i am illegal :thatsbad:

[Johnny Bravo]

Dontcha have the editor? Uh, i see, its illegal :eek:
But who cares?

Already working on a map but i wont talk about this until the editor is out.
Otherwise i am illegal :thatsbad:

i already know what it is ;)

[thefuzmixman]

hey guys, not an experienced modder, but I got the 3ps view to work yesterday through messing around in one of the .con files. I was like "whoa", and then today i stumbled onto this thread through googling so im glad to see the bf2 modding community is working on perfecting this idea :p

[={SOC}= Sniper]

Np bud. Im still trying.

[Bestrafe mich]

Any updates on crosshair and 3rdPerson mod?