This Admin is SUPER PISSED OFF After the patch!

[BallBuster]

This Admin is SUPER PISSED OFF After the patch!

Damn EA.... the patch has "Hard Coded" in some server features for
all Ranked Servers that admins can't change

Ticket Ratio = Forced to 100% (Games are WAY Too short now!)

Players needed to start a game:
6 for 16 slot server
8 for 24 slot server
10 for 32 slot server
10 for 64 slot server

This means if you have 8 or 9 people in your 36 player server the GAME WONT START
So people just leave. What a STUPID ASSED IDEA THIS IS

I really believe that there are actual retards working at EA

[{WP}SnakeEye]

thats ridiculous!

[Python]

Another reason why im happy i dont run a ranked server.. unless ea starts doing that stuff to us too which wouldn't surpise me.

[getcrackin]

I've noticed that as well. I've also been told I should not alter the map rotation... ie: I'm forced to run ALL the maps, and cannot setup a custom map rotation of like, say, 3 maps instead of ALL the maps. Is this true for ranked servers?

[jdogg88-Fed]

i would be happy if u could run custom maps on rank servers and oh yeah how much longer till the map editor??

[Python]

If EA is locking down servers so you cant even access configs or change settings along with map rotations, I highly doubt it if they will give you access to the server to run 3rd party maps, specially when they are controlling the map rotation too.

[Redh3lix]

Hmm..I'd like to know the official answer for that question..

They state they fully support the modding community etc etc etc, and yet if they don't allow us to place our customs on the servers is a tad ridiculous.

[Murtey]

You do realise it isnt as stupid as you think... They make sure you have 6-10 players before the match starts so that you dont get lame exploiters that look for an empty server so 3 of them can exploit.

[sincerecord9]

EA take their ranked servers far too seriously. They wont let admins customise their ranked server by changing the settings, yet they do nothing about n00bs who exploit the game to get points. I think EA are a bunch of retards.

[Munson]

EA take their ranked servers far too seriously. They wont let admins customise their ranked server by changing the settings, yet they do nothing about n00bs who exploit the game to get points. I think EA are a bunch of retards.

Maybe you missed the other posts on this board about the stat whores getting ranks busted back to PVT or whatever...


Maybe you missed the point of RANKED play, you want customs, you want mods, grab a FREE copy of the dedicated server, and run them. You want equal (mostly), tight pure BF2 games, you go play Ranked Servers. EA stated they would control the ranked settings, WE asked them to STOP stat whoring so this patch addressed some of those issues.

so without further delay I bring you a responce

From Adam Buchan: www.gamespot.com (RIP Gamespot)

Dear Fanboys,

I have a few pieces of advice I want to pass onto you in this GameSpotting. I know that in an age of multiple platforms and a huge amount of games, it can be difficult to remain loyal to one platform or one company. It's a real challenge, and you are all noble and courageous for taking on this quest. I have a few suggestions that I hope you all take to heart. It will help guide you down the path of the fanboy.

GameSpot is the most reliable source for reviews. Except when another publication rates the game you're hyping higher than us. Then that publication is the most reliable source. Until next week, anyway.

A person who owns just one console is inherently less biased than editors at GameSpot who have access to all consoles.

The term "exclusive" is tricky. Its definition changes depending upon whether a hot game appears on your platform or not.

Innovation is what it's called when your console has a unique feature. Otherwise, it's called a gimmick.

Your specific needs are shaped around your platform's features. For instance, if your console doesn't feature HDTV support, then it really wasn't that necessary to have, anyway.

A game that is scored less than a 9.5 on any platform you don't own is called a flop. If it does achieve that score, it's called overrated. (According to the GameSpot rating system, a game rated 8 or above is "great," but we all know that it really means "flop.")

Sales numbers are everything, as long as the numbers are best for your favorite company or console. If that means you have to dig up numbers for sales in New Zealand stores from seven months ago to prove your point, so be it.

Likewise, it is up to you to monitor how companies are doing and report every dip in stock price of manufacturers of other consoles. You're all experts in the fields of economics and finance, so your analyses will always prove correct.

You must realize, that some companies are evil, and some are inherently good. Some companies do it for the money, others do it... so, well, you can brag about them.

Perhaps the most clever thing you as fanboys can do is to come up with derogatory names for competing consoles, such as Xbrick instead of Xbox or FlopStation 2 instead of PlayStation 2.

On message boards, the best way to convey your point is to write in all caps, ignore the rules of grammar, and include lots of "LMAO's" and "LOLs" in your post.

It makes perfect sense to insult a company's lineup one moment and at the same time hope that company will go third party and develop for your console the next.

Playing a game on a different console for ten minutes at a friend's house qualifies you as an expert on that game and console.

You are obviously the most knowledgeable person about hardware. So when you're talking about the difference between CISC and RISC processors, everyone should stop and listen.

A sequel on another console is a "rehash," while a sequel on your console is not; in fact, it's highly anticipated.

Your platform is the best one in existence. Any time you see what might be evidence to the contrary, it's clearly because others are blinded by their idiotic fanboyism.

So you see, dear readers, the best part about being a fanboy is that you can never be proven wrong. As long as you ignore the rules of logic and sensibility, you will never have to worry about whether or not you made a good investment. That sure helps all the insecurity go away, doesn't it?

In the meanwhile, the rest of us will have to go on using our brains to make decisions when it comes to videogames. We will have to actually think about whether or not it's worth it to buy a console based on our needs. We will have to consider forking over more money for a new machine if its games are excellent. We will have to play the best games instead of bash them if they're not on our consoles.

In other words, the rest of us non-fanboys are doomed to a life of playing the best games and enjoying our hobby, while you will have the luxury of being able to ignore the majority of games that come out, because they're not on your console. That is indeed very lucky for you all.

And with that, I must wrap up my letter today. I hope I was able to teach you all a thing or two.

Your Pal,
Adam


Thanks Adam.


Munson

[KB-smoker]

This was a good move by EA...Thank you EA.

Teach the stat whores a lesson...

[{WP}SnakeEye]

the solution to stat whoring is to get rid the stupid ranking sysytem and give us the weapons we paid for..
im sick of this crap.
i paid for it i want it..and i dont want to be strongarmed into playing on a craptastic unmoderated EA server..
this game is ruined by EA's overprotective BS.
we support team play and the modding community..BULL..

[NoObYiSm]

i forget how many tickets are there at 100%

[Munson]

i forget how many tickets are there at 100%


depending on the map size 16 players is like 150ish. I'd guess no more then 300 or so on the 32/64 servers.


It makes for a fast game thats for sure.



Munson

[distance]

the solution to stat whoring is to get rid the stupid ranking sysytem and give us the weapons we paid for..
im sick of this crap.
i paid for it i want it..and i dont want to be strongarmed into playing on a craptastic unmoderated EA server..
this game is ruined by EA's overprotective BS.
we support team play and the modding community..BULL..

WORD!

[UnderLoK]

If EA is locking down servers so you cant even access configs or change settings along with map rotations, I highly doubt it if they will give you access to the server to run 3rd party maps, specially when they are controlling the map rotation too.

They were SUPPOSED TO BE THAT WAY from the start, but too many of their partners were screwing up and not following the guidelines so they forced it to avoid any further problems.

When you have a ranked server you are NOT supposed to be able to edit or even look at the config(s).

They state they fully support the modding community etc etc etc, and yet if they don't allow us to place our customs on the servers is a tad ridiculous.

Not to be a downer, but people can't download maps from the server anyways, so running custom maps is a waste of time IMO.

They should have implemented a download system. Hell they already set it up so you could download demos, why not maps? W/O that feature custom maps will continue to be a total flop like they were in BF/DC.

[{WP}SnakeEye]

they should have implemented a stay the fuc k outta my business system..
i think if Ea is going to enforce master race control over the unranked servers then they should start paying for them..

[StormRavn]

hay i think this was the best idea they did with the ranked servers know the players with 100 kills zero deaths well they will just go back to counterstrike were they belong.

but i agree with most on non ranked modded servers should have custom rules custom settings etc. but on the ranked servers i agree should be legit and even sided. although i wouldnt mind seeing the games run long espicaly in the maps that offer excellent fightin like strike for one when you have to good teams in that map sometimes i wish that map would run long!

[{WP}SnakeEye]

hay i think this was the best idea they did with the ranked servers know the players with 100 kills zero deaths well they will just go back to counterstrike were they belong.

but i agree with most on non ranked modded servers should have custom rules custom settings etc. but on the ranked servers i agree should be legit and even sided. although i wouldnt mind seeing the games run long espicaly in the maps that offer excellent fightin like strike for one when you have to good teams in that map sometimes i wish that map would run long!

EA can do whatever they like and impose whatever restrictions are necessary to protect their ranking system on RANKED servers. I ,and i think everyone here support that..However what i and my clan do on our leased UNRANKED server is our business and our business alone and unless EA plans on paying for or subsidizing the cost of our lease then they need to back the fuc off..

[Python]

They were SUPPOSED TO BE THAT WAY from the start, but too many of their partners were screwing up and not following the guidelines so they forced it to avoid any further problems.

When you have a ranked server you are NOT supposed to be able to edit or even look at the config(s)...


Thats why i said you can probably kiss 3rd party maps goodbye if you are running a ranked server. No one is giving out ftp access to a ranked server yet alone access to edit configs. Plus if ea is locking map rotations along with other settings i highly doubt they wont allow other maps to be played for ranked games.

[{WP}SnakeEye]

so whens call of duty 2 come out?

[Edwood]

I really believe that there are actual retards working at EA

That would be an insult to retards!

:p

-Ed

[imported_Disturbed]

This was a good move by EA...Thank you EA.

Teach the stat whores a lesson...

yeah punish the rest to solve stat whore problem.. gee what a thrill.

morons..

EA are a bunch of control freak idiots..

We bought the game... now give it to us, all of it.
Take your ranked servers and shove em where the sun dont shine.
Other games allow full stats logging world wide, no need for special
server, no need to kiss their asses, fall in line.. etc.. and especially
no need to PAY MORE FOR A "SPECIAL" server.. what a scam



$8/slot is ridiculous. Scam city.

[KB-smoker]

yeah punish the rest to solve stat whore problem.. gee what a thrill.

morons..

EA are a bunch of control freak idiots..

We bought the game... now give it to us, all of it.
Take your ranked servers and shove em where the sun dont shine.
Other games allow full stats logging world wide, no need for special
server, no need to kiss their asses, fall in line.. etc.. and especially
no need to PAY MORE FOR A "SPECIAL" server.. what a scam



$8/slot is ridiculous. Scam city.
So u blame EA for the problems cause by the stat whores? EA is trying to make everyone happy.

They dont make you pay/rent a rank server. They let you play on a free rank server. If u want custom maps or whatever get an unrank server.

Its just a fact that without these changes stat whores will still ruin the game.

If u want full stats do something like bf42tracks did with 42. I would like real stats with people playing fair.

[imported_Disturbed]

So u blame EA for the problems cause by the stat whores? EA is trying to make everyone happy.

They dont make you pay/rent a rank server. They let you play on a free rank server. If u want custom maps or whatever get an unrank server.

Its just a fact that without these changes stat whores will still ruin the game.

If u want full stats do something like bf42tracks did with 42. I would like real stats with people playing fair.

dude you missed the point.. I'll talk slower just for you next time..

THEY let me play FREE on ranked servers? Ummm. no. The people who
paid their EXTRA money to lease one paid.. and they paid 30% more than
what is normal.. you shmuck.

Stats? Personally, I dont care about stats.. I cannot put 'I'm a Corporal
in Battlefield 2' on my resume'.. All I want is the weapons that are in
the game.. I dont want to have to sell out and play on some money scam
ranked server to obtain them..

I DO have a unranked server.. and it runs 10x better than the Ranked ones
because they are all shared and overloaded with who knows how many
others.. why? well because the game server providers have to cram 2-3
games on 1 box to make a decent profit because they have to give EA
a cut just to call themselves 'Ranked'..

This is the very first game I have seen where the game company has
gotten into the game server rental business.. actually putting their
greedy hands in the middle of us, the players, and our local game
server companies.. , so they can get an extra cut... and then they
feed us the bullsh*t about that its necessary to patrol 'STAT' whores
and cheats? OMFG!!! What a total crock of BS!

Other games have their stats tracked world wide, easy to review on a
simple website, updated very quickly.. without ANY major problems..
EA just wants more money.. thats what the ranked servers is ALL about.

[KB-smoker]

dude you missed the point.. I'll talk slower just for you next time.. okay lets be an a$$h*le. :rolleyes:

THEY let me play FREE on ranked servers? Ummm. no. The people who
paid their EXTRA money to lease one paid.. and they paid 30% more than
what is normal.. you shmuck.Simple play on the FREE rank server... :rolleyes:

Stats? Personally, I dont care about stats.. I cannot put 'I'm a Corporal
in Battlefield 2' on my resume'.. All I want is the weapons that are in
the game.. I dont want to have to sell out and play on some money scam
ranked server to obtain them..Then mod ur server and it will let u have all the weapons.... :rolleyes:

This is the very first game I have seen where the game company has
gotten into the game server rental business.. actually putting their
greedy hands in the middle of us, the players, and our local game
server companies.. , so they can get an extra cut... and then they
feed us the bullsh*t about that its necessary to patrol 'STAT' whores
and cheats? OMFG!!! What a total crock of BS!Ea has ALWAYS had servers for rent since bf42.... :rolleyes:

Other games have their stats tracked world wide, easy to review on a
simple website, updated very quickly.. without ANY major problems..
EA just wants more money.. thats what the ranked servers is ALL about.
Did u not play bf 42/v and they had websites that tracked stats. All the top player were stat whores and u couldnt trust them. Ea did this on there own and it cost a lot of money for them to do this. If it was all about the money..they would charge a monthly fee like WoW....

[imported_Disturbed]

okay lets be an a$$h*le. :rolleyes:

Simple play on the FREE rank server... :rolleyes:
Then mod ur server and it will let u have all the weapons.... :rolleyes:

Ea has ALWAYS had servers for rent since bf42.... :rolleyes:


Did u not play bf 42/v and they had websites that tracked stats. All the top player were stat whores and u couldnt trust them. Ea did this on there own and it cost a lot of money for them to do this. If it was all about the money..they would charge a monthly fee like WoW....


$200/mo isnt 'WOW' ????

I rarely played BF42, and I thought BFV was boring after a week..

Ive played many online gamers.. this is the first EA , I think..
Im seeing a HUGE differance in attitude from EA than I did
from other game co's...like EPIC for instance..

Why does it bother people soooooo much that some people are
cheating their way into higher ranks.. do we have to have the EA
gestapo patrol punish the rest of us..for these bozos?

Look at the cost breakdown.. Ranked 32 player $192. UnRanked 32 $90.
Now you tell me it isnt about money..

gimme a break.

[Bloodi]

$200/mo isnt 'WOW' ????

I rarely played BF42, and I thought BFV was boring after a week..

Ive played many online gamers.. this is the first EA , I think..
Im seeing a HUGE differance in attitude from EA than I did
from other game co's...like EPIC for instance..

Why does it bother people soooooo much that some people are
cheating their way into higher ranks.. do we have to have the EA
gestapo patrol punish the rest of us..for these bozos?

Look at the cost breakdown.. Ranked 32 player $192. UnRanked 32 $90.
Now you tell me it isnt about money..

gimme a break.
Just quit playing BF2, why bother whinning this much? Waiting for your favorite EPIC's game UT2007 to come out or play whatever instead of BF2 which pissed you off. We do need a whiner in BF2 community!!!

[innerchild]

Just quit playing BF2, why bother whinning this much? Waiting for your favorite EPIC's game UT2007 to come out or play whatever instead of BF2 which pissed you off. We do need a whiner in BF2 community!!!

This person is not whining he is telling you and me and anyone else how it's played today with EA.

You can easly set up a ranked system like unreal tournament does for a fact without the problems of having ranked and unranked servers.

Also the prices are insane for a ranked server. I personaly totaly love the game but how i see it what EA has made of it today is really a pain in the ***.

[Mayhem]

Its rediculous,
you pay for server, some people join the game should start when 2 players join
(1 for each side)

[vrslider]

where can i find the patch for the (linux) server ?

[[RIC]Splinter]

the solution to stat whoring is to get rid the stupid ranking sysytem and give us the weapons we paid for..
im sick of this crap.
i paid for it i want it..and i dont want to be strongarmed into playing on a craptastic unmoderated EA server..
this game is ruined by EA's overprotective BS.
we support team play and the modding community..BULL..
YES Sir :salute:
Could not have said it better!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v145/adamrainer/Forum%20Sigs/eanazi3tm.gif

[Phalin]

Ok its time to quit calling them stat whores. The term is Cheater. I remember how much fun Quake 2 was until they started programing good cheats. You could set the auto bot to hit a percentage of time, so the person would miss once in awhile so they could say they weren't cheats.

I say give EA a little time. Try not to let the punks ruin it for us that want to have fun. BF2 has a lot to offer, I think we will all see that when some good mods come out and we can do what we want with the game.

So say give them 30 days. Then we as a hole might consider looking for a good lawyer and filing a class action suit. Frankly I have had enough of getting crapped on by the likes of Companies like UbiSoft and EA.

To be honest, I think they wish we would all dry up and and go out and buy a console so they wouldn't have to screw with PC's anymore. Then they can put out generic cookie cutter games, and not have to worry about the tech changing every 3 months.

I myself don't care about stats. But when you look at the server usage, Most people seem too.

[{WP}SnakeEye]

i suggest we all go complain to the BBB.
they rip us off then give us no recourse.theres no customer support, or any kind of avenue for getting things resolved.hell,we are forced to get our information from thrid party sites like this one (no offense).
somehow someway ,as consumers we must have a legal means of recourse.
until we stop taking in the *** dry and asking for another,we are always going to be treated this way by companies.

[Takahashi Keisuke]

Yes this is pretty lame.

Next thing they are going to limit the map rotation. ie. no 24/7 Strike of Karkand. because you can get more scores on a certain map.

[imported_Prophet]

They were SUPPOSED TO BE THAT WAY from the start, but too many of their partners were screwing up and not following the guidelines so they forced it to avoid any further problems.

When you have a ranked server you are NOT supposed to be able to edit or even look at the config(s).



Not to be a downer, but people can't download maps from the server anyways, so running custom maps is a waste of time IMO.

They should have implemented a download system. Hell they already set it up so you could download demos, why not maps? W/O that feature custom maps will continue to be a total flop like they were in BF/DC.

You stated "Not to be a downer, but people can't download maps from the server anyways, so running custom maps is a waste of time IMO." Ummm not so sure on that buddy. BF2 coding allows someone to come up with the idea of creating an auto installer of maps or manual installer of maps from within the game menus....I remember seeing this Posted here or at planetbattlefield and someone is already working on it...if I only knew .net I would have worked on it myself but I am a Network Tech with little Access coding so I am out of the question...

[Euthanizer]

I pay $108 a month for a Ranked server, I have their BF2CC rcon client and the only thing I can do is change maps. If less than six players are in there, the server is useless. you cant start a game with less than six, I want to play on it with 2 or more but EA makes it so you cant. If im paying for a game then on top of that paying for a Ranked server I should be able to determine the amount of players it takes to start a game and make changes to the server. if EA wants to make it so that you need at least 6 to get stats that fine but at least allow us to play the game and cap flags. I shouldnt have to buy a ranked server to get my stats and get a seperate unranked server to play 2 player games. EA is just being a control nut, who are they to determine what the paying customer can do and what they cant do, if a person joins a server and they dont like the way its setup then they have the choice to leave.

If EA had listed all the rules they have imposed PLAINLY and not hidden them a in a load of jargon that people usually don't see or don't look for then maybe they wouldn't have so many people mad at them.

[Euthanizer]

This Admin is SUPER PISSED OFF After the patch!

Damn EA.... the patch has "Hard Coded" in some server features for
all Ranked Servers that admins can't change

Ticket Ratio = Forced to 100% (Games are WAY Too short now!)

Players needed to start a game:
6 for 16 slot server
8 for 24 slot server
10 for 32 slot server
10 for 64 slot server

This means if you have 8 or 9 people in your 36 player server the GAME WONT START
So people just leave. What a STUPID ASSED IDEA THIS IS

I really believe that there are actual retards working at EA

Aggreed you said it perfect. I have a 18 man server so people just leave and you cant start a game unless six or mor join. total BS as far as I'm concerned.

[cavemanuk]

yup, 100% agree.. also, if you want to play a clan game you have to play unranked cos otherwise autobalance must be on so your team could end up on enemy's side...

ea really need to fire the monkeys who are thinking up these rules

[Badlizzard2]

yes yes, we know, EA has ruined everyone's lives.... this is tragic, a game with only 6 players isn't really a game. You can run around and kill each other, it just doesn't count. The game is all about running around and killing each other isn't it. What is the big deal, you can't cap flags, ooh guess you will have to just holster that weapon since there is no flag to cap.

[imported_Priest]

if EA wants to make it so that you need at least 6 to get stats that fine but at least allow us to play the game and cap flags.

We rent our ranked server at MPUK and now we need at least 10 players to start the stats :mad: Before patch 1.02 it was 6.

MPUK said, this are the new restrictions of EA. Can someone approve this? Or is there a link to EA where I can read the official restrictions for a ranked server?

[evs_pete]

The only way for you to find out what EA's rules for ranked servers is to have someone who runs a ranked re-seller company tell you them. They also have to agree to not give any information to anyone regarding ranked servers. So you pretty much have to get someone to break EA's rules and risk being banned from selling ranked servers to find out any information on it.

You people have to understand, that this all boils down to money for EA. This has always been about money for them. They see games like WOW making money each month off its clients. So this was a logical way for them to get into the money just like in MMORPG's.

Its all about the money people.

[Alchemist]

I didn't know about this topic so I started a thread on the same subject.. sorry.

I agree with everybody against this. For a 32 player server it should be no more than 4 or maybe 6. THAT'S IT. 10 players is RIDICULOUS. I've never been so angry over a videogame. :mad:

[exocet]

I still don't see the big hubub over the cost for ranked servers. You've really got to ask yourself WHY YOU NEED ONE. As I see it, clan servers are for practicing, scrims and wars. I sure as hell wouldn't want all the deaths caused from trying new things in a practice session to show up on my stats. Second of all I wouldn't want my war stats to show up either, as there are plenty of times where I will take a fall for the team in order to reinforce a position.

As for the lack of access to the ranked servers - in the first place it was stipulated "Don't touch these settings, but you can have access just don't **** with it". What did people do with it? ****ed with it is what they did. The idea of mandating settings is to ensure that every ranked server you play on, no matter what server or country, is the same. For persistant stats to be working well, everybody needs a level playing field. Why should you have 150, 200 or 300 percent ticket ratios to get your pistol or knife badge, when everybody else playing in legitimate ranked servers has to try and do it in 100%.

As for the restriction on slots, well I'm sure you'd obviously rather the alternative of stats whores finding an empty server and racking up the points at will.

[63rdeldeabloe]

I PAYED $200 fpor a ranked server just to find out i have very little control of iots settings i sadly wont be doing the same next month

[exocet]

You would have been made well aware of what you were allowed access to and not, if you didn't read the EULA which stipulated this then you can't blame EA for your lack of foresight.

[Alchemist]

As for the restriction on slots, well I'm sure you'd obviously rather the alternative of stats whores finding an empty server and racking up the points at will.

I'd rather have my freakin' games start and people have fun instead of spending an hour waiting for more to join. I DON'T CARE ABOUT STAT WHORES. All the retards crying 'BUT OMG STAT WHORES WE CAN'T LET THAT HAPPEN' have their priorities screwed up. Who cares if some other guy a thousand miles away has 50 more points than you IN A VIDEOGAME and that he got it illegitimately. GROW UP. Two people gaining rank on an empty server DOESN'T AFFECT ME IN ANY WAY. It's trivial and stupid. I don't understand this obsession with 'stat whores.' Play the game and have fun.

It’s unbelievable this rule got impolite because of insecure adults going crazy over 13 year olds (or retarded adults, whatever) ‘abusing’ empty servers. Jesus.


I PAYED $200 fpor a ranked server just to find out i have very little control of iots settings i sadly wont be doing the same next month


Same here.

[Viperar]

I love how they dictate what you should do with the server that YOU are paying for, idiots

[exocet]

You're renting a server which is to abide via the ranking system rules. When you buy a ranked server, you agree to run your server with those settings. You are aware of this when you buy it, why are you surprised when they start automatically mandating those settings, because people refused to follow the rules without the automated checks.

[imported_Champion]

You want to know why ranked servers are expensive? Because EA makes sure that only responsible hosting companies are given permission to lease them. They do this by charging them a lot of money per server, which makes any piss-poor company think twice about getting themselves into it.

Whoever made that comment about 'not wanting to play on the overpriced ranked servers', you're just a moron. THEY ARE OFFICIAL EA SERVERS. WHO IS EA CHARGING TO RUN THEM? THEMSELVES? Jesus half the people in this community are whiny people who obviously like the game more than they let on because they don't leave it. If you dislike EA or the game, go find a different one, a better company! As long as you're gone and I don't have to read these pointless posts, I'll be happy.

[imported_Tumbler]

You want to know why ranked servers are expensive? Because EA makes sure that only responsible hosting companies are given permission to lease them. They do this by charging them a lot of money per server, which makes any piss-poor company think twice about getting themselves into it.


I get the distint impression that EA is not making sure that only responsible hosting companies are hosting. There was a post a week ago that pointed out several companies that rent official bf2 ranked servers and they are on the BBB watch list for unethical business practices.

I think VSK was the one that drew the most critics.

[SpeedNut[CV]]

You're renting a server which is to abide via the ranking system rules. When you buy a ranked server, you agree to run your server with those settings. You are aware of this when you buy it, why are you surprised when they start automatically mandating those settings, because people refused to follow the rules without the automated checks.

Remember in most cases they've already paid for this month based on how the servers worked previously, so they're literally stuck for the rest of their 1st month as a ranked server that might not get played on because you now need to have x number of people to miraculously show up to play. So even half of a month of $195 is a hell of a lot of money to piss away on a server you now can't get enough people on to actually start a match.

If the server companies could switch mid-month to unranked for these folks and credit appropriately in good faith then I would see no problem.

[imported_Davis]

Well it's almost to the point where the consumer will be able to file a class action lawsuit against EA. EA seems to be digging themselves a bigger hole.

EA took what BFtracks had and built it into a fiasco.

[« R²» HKS]

I am also an admin of a Ranked server which we pay big bucks for. Add me to the list of pissed off Ranked server admins. There is so little customisation that you can do but overall the biggest pissoff is the minimum player limit to start a ranked game. I know this has been done to stop the rep boosters/stat padders but all its done is piss off the legitimate gamers.

1st off there was the 1.01 patch debarcle and memory leak issue. Then EA "told us" to revert back to the original 1.0 which we did. Then same as patch 1.01, 1.02 has the minimum players to start a game. We run a 32 player Ranked server and its a minimum of 10 players to start. With version 1.0, our server filled in 60secs or less and stays packed 24/7 Since installing 1.02 we have only played 1 single game. The game took about 40 minutes before we had 10 people to start it, lasted a full round, got up to about 20/32 players then the next map 12 players got randomly disconnected.(those players didn't do the manual pb update we think) Ever since, we have not had another game start and the server is usually empty.

People get bored before there are 10 players to start a game and I don't blame them. EA could have at least let the game start so you could do something, then when it reached/exceeded the 10 player minimum limit the game would restart, but noooo they have to do something dumb like this so the game never starts.

I know its early days with the new patch and I'll give it a week so more players have installed it but so far its not looking good at all. In fact if it remains this way we will either revert back to 1.0 (cept that probably won't be allowed for Ranked Servers) or we will simply stop paying those mega bucks for a Ranked Server.

Then there is the map rotation problem. We are not allowed to alter it at all. Wonderful, every server will be the same but I spose thats what they wanted. Tickets must be set at 100, thats all well and good but sometimes a game will only last 5 mins. It only takes a blackhawk full of guys to go an cap all the flags then the rest kill off the other team, game over.

I see our Ranked server as a complete and utter waste of money now. As we pay in advance we have just blown half a months worth of money for an empty server that never fills and games never start. With the original 1.0 version it was jam packed 24/7 now its empty.

BTW we have had the Ranked Server from day 1. We knew the rules on day 1 but the rules never stated that the game would need 10 players minimum to start a game. It used to take 4 players I think before the stats started to get collected but atleast you only needed a minimum of 2 players to actually start playing. If we knew it would have been like this we would have never ever wasted our time and effort and money paying for a Ranked server. This is the thanks we get for paying for a server so others can play for free.

Not happy EA!!!!

Another pissed off Ranked Server Admin
« R²» HKS
Founder, Senior Admin, BF2 Ranked Server Admin
www.r2clan.com

[« R²» HKS]

You're renting a server which is to abide via the ranking system rules. When you buy a ranked server, you agree to run your server with those settings. You are aware of this when you buy it, why are you surprised when they start automatically mandating those settings, because people refused to follow the rules without the automated checks.

Like I said we were well aware of the rules when we purchased a ranked server from day 1 but no-where in the rules was the minimum player rule of 10 for a 32 player server before a game would even start. That was a new rule that EA added and made mandatory in patch 1.01 and patch 1.02 I have always had the server settings within the Ranked Server rules, that being tickets 100, standard view distances, punkbuster on, tk punish on, stock map rotation. No where did it state that a game would not even start at all ever until 10 players join a 32 player server.

Like I said its just plain dumb. They could have and should have let a game start, then when it reached the required minimum the game would restart and be ranked, but no they had to do it the dumb way!

Instead of having the message a game will not start until 10 players join, it could say a game will restart and be ranked when 10 players join.

Unless you are like us and actually paying your hard earned money for a Ranked server you don't seem to understand what its like for us. I'll tell you its dead boring and a complete and utter waste of money.

Guess what this will be the 1st and last month we run a Ranked server if it continues like this!

« R²» HKS
Founder, Senior Admin, BF2 Ranked Admin
www.r2clan.com

[imported_xRandoMx]

Don't lease a ranked server if you want to run a non-standard config.

Seems pretty simple plan to me. You have to be somewhat dim to think you'd get away with stuff like that when EA is taking the rankings seriously anyways.

I'm tired of people saying they paid for the unlocked weapons too---you paid for unlocked weapons with a ranked account, on a ranked server. You paid for unlocked weapons on a non-ranked server that has universal unlocks. The two don't and won't mix, why can't you guys understand it?

Expect the ranked config to get even more draconian, as it should be. What they could do, though I doubt it would happen would be an open ranking to go along with the closed ranking. Sorta like freestyle vs. compulsories. :-)

[Euthanizer]

yes yes, we know, EA has ruined everyone's lives.... this is tragic, a game with only 6 players isn't really a game. You can run around and kill each other, it just doesn't count. The game is all about running around and killing each other isn't it. What is the big deal, you can't cap flags, ooh guess you will have to just holster that weapon since there is no flag to cap.

We can play the game but if you just run around and shoot at each other whats the challenge, also the game would never end and there's no goal. you can do that in any other shooter game like CS or HL.

I don't care about the rank part but at least let us play the game the way it is meant to be played. i.e with a goal ( to capture the flags) and to have a defined ending (all points capped). I understand that a new daemon is comming out soon to allow the ranked servers to be started in ranked or unranked mode, that is a good start. but I thinks a script that would allow rankings to start at a certain point(like 6) but let you play the game as it was intended to be played, may be better. I just wanted to see if anyone else saw it the same as I.

[Rolander]

The global ranking system doesn't bother me. But I wish the non-global servers could do a closed rank system. Or at least just unlock the weapons and run with it.

As an admin I want to have a server I can mess with as because it's a fun hobby. But this 2 class system of servers is hurting people like me (boo hoo!). It's not fun if you can't do anything.

As a gamer I just want to play. If I wanted to worry about all that experience and leveling up crap I'd be playing America's Army or *gasp* evercrack. I don't have time for all that crap, I just want to blow stuff up.

[imported_Disturbed]

You want to know why ranked servers are expensive? Because EA makes sure that only responsible hosting companies are given permission to lease them. They do this by charging them a lot of money per server, which makes any piss-poor company think twice about getting themselves into it.

Whoever made that comment about 'not wanting to play on the overpriced ranked servers', you're just a moron. THEY ARE OFFICIAL EA SERVERS. WHO IS EA CHARGING TO RUN THEM? THEMSELVES? Jesus half the people in this community are whiny people who obviously like the game more than they let on because they don't leave it. If you dislike EA or the game, go find a different one, a better company! As long as you're gone and I don't have to read these pointless posts, I'll be happy.

omfg.

they're expensive because they have the monopoly on the market for
ranked servers.. you idiot..

simple as that.

oh, and btw, I know several gsp owners, who tell me they are having
to run 3 games per box because of EA's 'CUT'.. therefore, ranked servers
are going to be typically overresourced, and overloaded..

The whole ranking system WOULD HAVE been cool, had EA not gotten
greedy for a few more bucks. Show me 1 other game where the
company charges MORE for a 'ranking' system. Show me 1.

[imported_Disturbed]

yes yes, we know, EA has ruined everyone's lives.... this is tragic, a game with only 6 players isn't really a game. You can run around and kill each other, it just doesn't count. The game is all about running around and killing each other isn't it. What is the big deal, you can't cap flags, ooh guess you will have to just holster that weapon since there is no flag to cap.


lmfao!

whos butt at EA are you up at the moment?

what a load of CRAP

[« R²» HKS]

Like I said I will/do abide by the standard config which I agreed to when we purchased a Ranked server. However at that stage there was no mention of needing 10 players minimum to start a 32 player Ranked game. That only came into effect with patch 1.01 & patch 1.02 Thats what I'm peeved at.

Lets see what happens when all of us non-EA Ranked server guys don't run them next month. All you guys that freeload on our servers which we pay for won't be around next month if it continues like this. This will again create a massive shortage of servers. Try getting onto a Ranked server then.

We sent off an email to EA about this demanding it to be changed so that atleast the game will start with 2 players (stats will not be collected) then when it hits 10 players the game would restart and be ranked. That is the logical way to do it, not to bore us to death not being able to do anything. We paid for a Ranked server for 2 reasons which we had forseen before the retail shipped A:Unranked servers are worth nothing because nobody plays on them and B: We knew there would be a massive shortage and it would be hard to get onto a Ranked server. We didn't pay for them so they would be empty after patch 1.02 needing 10 to start a game and guys leave or get disconnected because of outdate pb before the game even starts.

I'm sure if you paid around the $200 per month for a Ranked server you would be bummed out too if it went from being full 24/7 to since 1.02 is out empty 24/7.

[imported_Disturbed]

Like I said I will/do abide by the standard config which I agreed to when we purchased a Ranked server. However at that stage there was no mention of needing 10 players minimum to start a 32 player Ranked game. That only came into effect with patch 1.01 & patch 1.02 Thats what I'm peeved at.

Lets see what happens when all of us non-EA Ranked server guys don't run them next month. All you guys that freeload on our servers which we pay for won't be around next month if it continues like this. This will again create a massive shortage of servers. Try getting onto a Ranked server then.

We sent off an email to EA about this demanding it to be changed so that atleast the game will start with 2 players (stats will not be collected) then when it hits 10 players the game would restart and be ranked. That is the logical way to do it, not to bore us to death not being able to do anything. We paid for a Ranked server for 2 reasons which we had forseen before the retail shipped A:Unranked servers are worth nothing because nobody plays on them and B: We knew there would be a massive shortage and it would be hard to get onto a Ranked server. We didn't pay for them so they would be empty after patch 1.02 needing 10 to start a game and guys leave or get disconnected because of outdate pb before the game even starts.

I'm sure if you paid around the $200 per month for a Ranked server you would be bummed out too if it went from being full 24/7 to since 1.02 is out empty 24/7.

they're afraid a couple of shmucks will get together and cheat on
stats, and figure with a 6 player minimum (or 10, etc..) there will
be some others to 'monitor' that situation.

Way to go EA... institute lame *** rules punishing the 99% of us who
follow the rules and dont cheat..

the whole ranked server thing is a huge money scam anyhow..

[Foxtrot]

This Admin is SUPER PISSED OFF After the patch!

Damn EA.... the patch has "Hard Coded" in some server features for
all Ranked Servers that admins can't change

Ticket Ratio = Forced to 100% (Games are WAY Too short now!)

Players needed to start a game:
6 for 16 slot server
8 for 24 slot server
10 for 32 slot server
10 for 64 slot server

This means if you have 8 or 9 people in your 36 player server the GAME WONT START
So people just leave. What a STUPID ASSED IDEA THIS IS

I really believe that there are actual retards working at EA

Wow this guy is pretty strang, he gets pissed off at a few little things like rounds being 5 minutes shorter, and having to wait 2 more minutes for people to fill up the server. But he doesn't get pissed at paying 3 times more than he should for a server?

[onexbigtom]

OK I run a couple of server boxes. We tried BFV and we did not much care for it. But we gave it a shot. Did not take. To many hackers out there. SO we dumped it. We mostly run Call Of Duty United Offensive. Have 3 dedicated running now. Plus a FarCry, Pacific Assault, Call of Duty and MohaaSpearhead. We figured that the New BF2 would be a nice edition to our games we run now.

One thing is we are able to modify all our servers to the way we like them. To alow or not alow weapons. Time limits maps that we have made or others, etc. The one thing being new to the BF gamers is that you can not control the game to your liking.

I myself have no problems with ranked servers. Should all be even so not to get these cheaters in there. But for those who run non ranked.... we should be able to run it the way we see fit. We have thousands of registered members on our site. Reason is they love our type of game play and the servers we run.

If we are not able to run this game the way we would like............ It going to be droped off our servers. Myself a bit pissed spending 50 bucks US on the game on not being able to run it the way I want. Never did like being limited to anything with some thing I pay for.

If this does not get fixed I know myself and most every one that follows us are not going to bother ever again with any type of BF game again. This is the first EA game server we are running since Spearhead. Not looking like a great come back to EA for us being limited the way we are with game settings being locked or delisted if they do get unlocked.


So EA Baby sit your ranked servers. A+ on that idea, but let us that run Non ranked servers do what we will. No mater what it is we want to do with it. Nothing for nothing......we did pay the $50 bucks for it plus paying for server space to run it.

[imported_Champion]

It's good to know that these server admins wish to harbor stat padders in their servers. Good stuff.

[onexbigtom]

Actualy no. I don't. I wont allow global unlocks on my servers. I want every one even. All weapons. No ranks on my server. Don't need some 6 year old general giving orders LOL.

Keep your stats and ranks. Well stats are cool but keep the ranks.

[onexbigtom]

yes yes, we know, EA has ruined everyone's lives.... this is tragic, a game with only 6 players isn't really a game. You can run around and kill each other, it just doesn't count. The game is all about running around and killing each other isn't it. What is the big deal, you can't cap flags, ooh guess you will have to just holster that weapon since there is no flag to cap.

LOL BadLizard as a Moderator of the forum you should be bias in posts. I did not know EA had a representative here. But Cool now that we know you are a rep for EA you can relay all this info from this forum and give EA and Dice our opinuns then. Or is it your opinun only that you will relay to them?

People are not happy is all on spending this money and not being able to do what they want with it is all. Nothing wrong with that is there? I know I wont be buying there expansion. To me the game was not finnished when they released it. Only one game type. Trying to figure out why that option is even there with only one game type anyway. Tells me they did not finnish it.

EA did not ruin everyone's lives, but folks feel they are being or have been riped off is all. ANd for the life of me what the heck is the big deal of ratings? Who cares if you kill more folks then some one eles. Myself just want to have fun. Myself I came here for help for my server for server suport but all I saw is folks complaining

[« R²» HKS]

It's good to know that these server admins wish to harbor stat padders in their servers. Good stuff.

FFS I ban stat padders and I'm quite capable of doing that. The stat padders will simply go and play on 16 player servers where it only takes 6 players to start a game. Why should it take 10 players to start a 32 player and only 10 to start a 64 player?

You guys obviously don't get the point. We are paying big dollars for ranked servers which struggle to fill especially overnight when people are sleeping in the location of the server and sometimes the best games are had with less than 10 people.

We are being punished because some gay, lame noobs who go and rep boost their ranks who obviously don't pay for servers and mooch off other people's servers who do.

Who says it has anything to do with the number to start a game. I caught 2 gay/weak/lame noob stat padders the other day on the carrier in the Gulf of Oman doing the ammo cheat where they are both support guys, shoot a couple of rounds then give each other ammo. This system of 10 to start a game didn't stop them did it because the game was full with 32 players and they were still stat padding. We stopped them, we banned them.

[Chusss]

Obviusly you can easily cheat stats in a full server, so tickets and numbers of players to start restrictions, only affect (very negatively) to legal players and servers (16 size maps with 100 tickets it´s a joke).
EA...thanks :(

[Dead_aim1986]

what a whiney little ***** you are dude, Onexbigtom...i mean shut up alreddy

[« R²» HKS]

http://forums.totalbf2.com/showthread.php?t=13567&page=1 There's already a thread for this man and I totally agree with you. We have a ranked server, 32 player that needs 10 to start. Well I spose I have made my thoughts clear in that thread.

I will make this clear here as well though. All you guys saying whats the big deal, its to stop the stat padders, well I bet my left nut you don't pay for a Ranked Server and probably just mooch off others who do so I think your opinions mean nothing. Unless you actually pay for a Ranked server and pay to play you have no place commenting on this situation cause why would you care you can just hop from server to server, no skin of your back or money down the drain from your back pocket.

« R²»Capt.HKS
Founder,Senior Admin,BF2 Ranked Server Admin (Raging Rebels Ranked 1.02)
www.r2clan.com

[General Tso]

Hey at least you have people on your server!

We (http://www.team-ftg.org) signed a year long lease on a server box a couple of months before the game dropped, and before everyone completely understood the ranked/unranked server deal. We literally signed the contract a few days before the developer interview that announced the Ranked server information.

Our $160 server box sits completely empty unless we have a scrim, practice or CAL match. We have to eat the cost because of the contract, or we pay a huge cancellation fee. Hopefully, our provider will soon be an authorized EA partner :rolleyes: so it can be ranked.

[« R²» HKS]

Hey at least you have people on your server!

We (http://www.team-ftg.org) signed a year long lease on a server box a couple of months before the game dropped, and before everyone completely understood the ranked/unranked server deal. We literally signed the contract a few days before the developer interview that announced the Ranked server information.

Our $160 server box sits completely empty unless we have a scrim, practice or CAL match. We have to eat the cost because of the contract, or we pay a huge cancellation fee. Hopefully, our provider will soon be an authorized EA partner :rolleyes: so it can be ranked.

Oh are you saying you got an Unranked server, if so I feel for ya man because we knew Unranked servers would be empty 24/7 and totally worthless thats why we never got an Unranked server.

Some do have it tougher. Is there any chance you can swap it for Ranked at all??

[signa]

fwiw, we lease a ranked server thru trinitygames.net and they give us the option of rebooting it into non-ranked anytime we want. it cost $155 / month for a 32 player server, although we have like 8 people pitching in.

also here are the ranked requirements:

sv.password = empty string (don't set password)
sv.numPlayersNeededToStart = (6 for maxPlayers 16, 10 for 32, 10 for 64)
sv.spawnTime 15
sv.manDownTime 15
sv.ticketRatio 100
sv.teamRatioPercent 100
sv.punkBuster 1

[Noobzilla]

I pay $108 a month for a Ranked server, I have their BF2CC rcon client and the only thing I can do is change maps. If less than six players are in there, the server is useless. you cant start a game with less than six, I want to play on it with 2 or more but EA makes it so you cant. If im paying for a game then on top of that paying for a Ranked server I should be able to determine the amount of players it takes to start a game and make changes to the server. if EA wants to make it so that you need at least 6 to get stats that fine but at least allow us to play the game and cap flags. I shouldnt have to buy a ranked server to get my stats and get a seperate unranked server to play 2 player games. EA is just being a control nut, who are they to determine what the paying customer can do and what they cant do, if a person joins a server and they dont like the way its setup then they have the choice to leave.

If EA had listed all the rules they have imposed PLAINLY and not hidden them a in a load of jargon that people usually don't see or don't look for then maybe they wouldn't have so many people mad at them.

I couldnt agree more.. I sell ranked servers.. I gave EA their 10 minimum
server quota they required.. sold 10 ranked in a couple weeks, no problem,
now all 10 of my customers complain daily that they cannot get any activity
because the game NEVER starts, and people get tired of waiting and drop off.

EA are a bunch of idiots..who think their precious ranking system, and
unlock weapons are they greatest thing since sliced bread, and to keep
the 1% players who cheat or exploit their stats system they will punish the
rest of the 99% of us by instituting RIDICULOUS rules for ranked servers.

I will more than likely be dumping BF2 from my games list next billing cycle,
and sending EA a letter telling them where they can stick their game..
I know 2 other GSPs who sell way more servers than me who are also
considering dumping BF2 for this reason as well as the instability of the
game itself overall.

Of course, EA wont give a crap, they already got our money..and have no
business sense anyhow..

[BigBadBob]

With the 1.0 retail release, it was possible. People would lock the server and get 3-4 people in and stat exploit.

That's why you can't lock a ranked server, and have to have so many to get it going.

Cheaters ruin it for everyone.

[Noobzilla]

I will be stopping the sale of ranked servers next month due to this
problem.. all my customers complain that they can never get a game
going because of EAs silly rules..

hey EA.. heres an idea.. lets punish the 99% of legit players by making
them wait and wait and wait and wait.. so that the less than 1% of stat
exploitors cant get their stats.. great idea!


EA must be the biggest bunch of fools in the game publishing industry.
If it hadnt been for John Madden :) we may have gotten lucky and got
a real publisher with BF2, like EPIC..

[deathBOB]

I hate the 100% ticket ratio thing. The server I play on, ECGNetwork.com #1 (64 players) used to run some of the maps in 32 player mode because the 64 versions sucked (think Dragon Valley and Fushe Pass). With 100% tickets and 64 players on a map the game ends in about 15 minutes. Why cant we set the tickets higher? Some maps are just starving for more tickets.

[Phalin]

You would have been made well aware of what you were allowed access to and not, if you didn't read the EULA which stipulated this then you can't blame EA for your lack of foresight.


If your reading the EULA then its already to late to return the game and get a refund. Every place I buy from stipulates that you can return the game provided you haven't opened it.

[exocet]

You can still play it without becoming a server admin.

[tomcat]

get rid of the stupid ranking....ruined the game...ruined the community...ruined the server providers.....

let the community enjoy the game...away from the stat whores...

[Major_Rosha]

I am hoping that we can set the server slots down to a smaller number and increase it on the fly as people join. Example, I lease a 32-slot server. I use BF2CC to change the current # of players and map sizes to 16 players so that I only need 6 to start the game. Once I get 10 people in, I can then up it to my server max of 32 players and increase the map size on the fly for the next rounds. It would at least ease the burden somewhat. Ideally, EA will loosen the requirements to like 4 minimum or something. It does get frustrating to pay all that money for a server to see it sit empty 90% of the time...and the times it is empty are the times I have available to play! By the time enough people get on, I get a few rounds in and have to log.

So, all that said ... any small clans need a server to call home!! ;) I have one available for use!!!!!

[Noobzilla]

get rid of the stupid ranking....ruined the game...ruined the community...ruined the server providers.....

let the community enjoy the game...away from the stat whores...

agreed.

EA are a bunch of idiots.

[Kaltagesta]

Hey, what's that?

Do you hear that?

Hmm, I think thats the sound of EA raping you till you die and/or give them all you're money, whichever is first.

[BigBadBob]

I am hoping that we can set the server slots down to a smaller number and increase it on the fly as people join. Example, I lease a 32-slot server. I use BF2CC to change the current # of players and map sizes to 16 players so that I only need 6 to start the game. Once I get 10 people in, I can then up it to my server max of 32 players and increase the map size on the fly for the next rounds. It would at least ease the burden somewhat. Ideally, EA will loosen the requirements to like 4 minimum or something. It does get frustrating to pay all that money for a server to see it sit empty 90% of the time...and the times it is empty are the times I have available to play! By the time enough people get on, I get a few rounds in and have to log.

So, all that said ... any small clans need a server to call home!! ;) I have one available for use!!!!!

you do understand, that the map would need to reload for that to take effect right?

Map scaling isn't dynamic.

[DrunkenPirate]

Threads Merged.

[Major_Rosha]

you do understand, that the map would need to reload for that to take effect right?

Map scaling isn't dynamic.
Yeah, but that isn't a big deal. As long as it is just a map restart and not a server restart, I can load a new map between rounds and up the number of players. I add maps and restart them all the time in between rounds and it works great. The only thing I cant do at the moment is change the slot size for the map which is what I hope is a feature I will be able to do in the future (up to the max slots for my server)

[« R²» HKS]

I haven't tried that yet but say you start a 16player game/map then you get the minimum 6 required for it to start if you immediately change to a 32player game/map and still only have 6 players the game won't start so I don't see the point in doing that because it requires 10 players and as soon as there isn't 10 players the game ends and won't start and be ranked until you get 10 players.

EDIT: ahh I didn't see that you waited till you had 10 players, forget the above:

[bbrain]

I think this system is totally ********. If someone want to cheat they can go to a 16 slot ranked server, so I dunno why the 32/64 need 10 ppl? If they are more than 10 they can easy fit on 16 slot and can kick all the newcomers.

[[MORK]Gog]

Took me a while to find this thread, so I am going to have my tuppence worth. :D

First thing though, I find it pointless and sad to see a load of people posting abuse and rants. That is not going to produce a response from EA.

The Point
We pay for a 32 man ranked server, which sits empty 95% of the time. People come, sure, then generally leave after 5 mins and go looking for a fuller server.

One of the suggestions that I had read was a system where the game starts when 2 or more people join, but the points do not start recording until there are the required numbers of players on the server.

We, as a clan, are not going to waste our money on a server that sits empty, it is pointless.

Has anybody had a response from EA about this at all?

[C.Sartoris]

If you don't like it, switch to ABR.

[Trevortt]

I can't see EA responding to this, they hardly ever respond to these forums.

[Phalin]

I don't see why anyone would post in a thread that has beend dead for 8 months. There isn't any good reason for it. Alot has changed in 8 months.

Such as we had two server. Got rid of them both. Money well saved.

[bigpappa]

This Admin is SUPER ****ED OFF After the patch!

Damn EA.... the patch has "Hard Coded" in some server features for
all Ranked Servers that admins can't change

Ticket Ratio = Forced to 100% (Games are WAY Too short now!)

Players needed to start a game:
6 for 16 slot server
8 for 24 slot server
10 for 32 slot server
10 for 64 slot server

This means if you have 8 or 9 people in your 36 player server the GAME WONT START
So people just leave. What a STUPID ASSED IDEA THIS IS

I really believe that there are actual retards working at EA


nooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[[MORK]Gog]

I don't see why anyone would post in a thread that has beend dead for 8 months. There isn't any good reason for it. Alot has changed in 8 months.

Such as we had two server. Got rid of them both. Money well saved.

I didn't create a new one because of duplication.

The minimum players to start is a problem, which I think needs flagging as much as possible. How else do you think changes come about?

And yes we may be following your route, the server is up for renewal in May, I doubt we'll renew it, as you said "money well saved".