[release]BF2_Realism mini-mod

[Djuice]

Updated :D

Well here is the newest release versions

well, just a new release..

Version 3.0

http://totalbf2.filecloud.com/files/file.php?user_file_id=40305

[Sir. HackerX4]

Very Nice, i downloaded and this makes the game more like DC baby yeah!:rock:

[Djuice]

Just a small update :D

Version 2.7 Changes


Vehicles

- Adjusted Recoil on MBTs

- Added Selectable Fire mode on MBTs 7.62mm Coaxial MG, first Automatic/5 rounds burst

- Adjust the speed/acceleration of FAAVs and Transports

- Added Selectable Fire mode on APCs, now you can fire Automatic/Burst (Press with 1 or 3 to change)

- Added 9M119M Refleks-M AT-GM to T-90 [8 AT-GMs] (Press Cycle Weapon key)

- Added 9M119M Refleks-M AT-GM to Type-98G [5 AT-GMs] (Press Cycle Weapon key)

- Added XM1028 120mm Canister Anti-Infantry munition to the M1A2SEP [10 shells] (Press Cycle Weapon Key)

- MBTs 120mm/125mm Cannon is now Alternate Fire key

- MBTs 7.62mm Coaxial MG is now Primary Fire key

- Change M829A3 APDSFS-T munition count to 30

- BTR-90 now has 350 30mm HEI-T and 150 30mm APDSFS-T rounds (Press Cycle Weapon key to change ammo types)

- LAV-25 now has 420 25mm HEI-T and 210 25mm APDSFS-T rounds (Press Cycle Weapon key to change ammo types)

- WZ-551 now has 300 25mm HEI-T and 100 25mm APDSFS-T rounds (Press Cycle Weapon key to change ammo types)

- 25mm/30mm HEI-T rounds are very effective against Infantry, but ineffective against APCs/AAVs/MBTs


Stationary/handheld Weapons

- Reduce velocity on the 40mm Grenade launchers

- Added second zoom factor to AK-74U and M4A1 Carbine

- Type 88 Sniper rifle clip size reduced to 10 rounds and magazines increased to 6

- Shotguns are now accurate up to 30 metres

- Increased Accuracy on all Specops Rifles

- Redid recoil again

- Reduced AI detectionion range on all Handheld guns

- Reduced 9mm Parabellum and 00 buckshots damage to Body Armour

- Type 85 rate of fire reduced to 600

- Magazine count increased to 10, increased recoil, increased accuracy


Kits

- Modify Kit sprint dissapation rate due to weight of carried gear

- Added C4 to all Engineers and Specops

- Swapped Standard Pistols with silenced variant

- Gave the MEC engineer an AK-101 instead of AK-47

- Swapped the CH-AT AK-101 with Type 85 7.62mm SMG

- Removed M67 Grenades from all specops classes

-=EDITED=-

Can those who downloaded the previous version 2.7 download it again, i had to fix a serious bug.

Download available from here:

http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~bf42players/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=26050
http://forums.filefront.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=36602

[Darksniper75]

Mate, can you play this on the new patch? Has it an installer? Is someone willing to put in up a decent running server?

Sounds nice, but I like to see it in multiplayer. Great work though, something I had in mind, but still waiting on the tools to be released.


Cheers

[Why?!]

Very nice Djuice, going to try it out in SP now.

Sorta off topic, but I really hope they make the level system like 1942 where the level files only overwrote the originals, you never needed your own set of levels. My BF2 folder is already 4.79GB :(

[Djuice]

yeah they should really get a fix for that, my game is getting larger by by the minute.

[wolfi]

NICE ONE!
I love the claymores.
U can throw them 30m. They are uber-l33t.
The zoom factors are great.

I love this mod. :eek:

[DeathGiver]

Any servers running this?

[DaSniper]

Yeah really interested in getting this in server mode.

[SylentSnipe]

Just add these lines to your Server Archives.con file
fileManager.mountArchive Objects_realism.zip Objects
fileManager.mountArchive realism_server.zip Common

It may work for Deticated Server also but havent tried. But my friends play Co-op with the mods with no prob

[DaSniper]

yeah im talking about Dedicated server. Since those lines are already there. and it still doesnt work.

[Djuice]

im working on making my own md5 file for my own mod so its more dedicated server friendly.

[Djuice]

okay i generated my own levels.md5 and std_archives.md5 files, so this should allow it to run on a dedicated server more successfully/easier.

On another note, you guys got any suggestions that i can do to make my mod more realistic?

Also any bugs to report would be kool too :D

Anyways, i hope to released that updated version in like a day or two.

[DaSniper]

Yes a bug. Just alittle one. When trying to repair a station of some sort i get killed.... Is that suppose to be that way?

[Annihilator]

okay i generated my own levels.md5 and std_archives.md5 files, so this should allow it to run on a dedicated server more successfully/easier.

On another note, you guys got any suggestions that i can do to make my mod more realistic?

Also any bugs to report would be kool too :D

Anyways, i hope to released that updated version in like a day or two.

yes.
To make it more realistic.
Make the commander screen to zoom in more.
Like u zoom in so u can see the people, and than press + to zoom in more to see the enemy more. and - to zoom out.
In real life they do it all the time.
And make all the guns rate of fire wright/realistic.
Make the accuracity better when u lay on the ground and be steady. like in counter strike,t aht the bullet goes staight when u crouch and shoot once or twice.
Add some realistic sounds to the guns.
U know, u should team up with the Desert Combat Realism mod. They have done a really great job in DC.
they added new sounds, new vehicles, new fun maps, and realistic stuff.

[Darksniper75]

yes.
To make it more realistic.
Make the commander screen to zoom in more.
Like u zoom in so u can see the people, and than press + to zoom in more to see the enemy more. and - to zoom out.
In real life they do it all the time.
And make all the guns rate of fire wright/realistic.
Make the accuracity better when u lay on the ground and be steady. like in counter strike,t aht the bullet goes staight when u crouch and shoot once or twice.
Add some realistic sounds to the guns.
U know, u should team up with the Desert Combat Realism mod. They have done a really great job in DC.
they added new sounds, new vehicles, new fun maps, and realistic stuff.

Yes, to make to make it more realistic:

ERASE the COMMANDER, he spoils the game. It's a useless asset, no sattelitre in the world can do what is done in this game. As a sniper/spec ops there is no way to go stealth. Or at least for these two groups make them invisible. Got me curious now.

Mods can anyone make a sticky outta this one. Seems the author has put the most effort into his mod of all things released. Gonna give it a spin also. Yoyu made an installer, yet?

MD5, is that the rar check, if so, can you enlighten me abit on it, or is it pb related?

Cheers

[Djuice]

i would want to change those but i dunno which files are used by the commander.

For example i dont even know what files to edit for the satellite scan and UAV, as i cant seem to locate anything related to them except the RAdar station, and remoteaccess files for them, and they all dont have any information on the operation of those said systems.

MD5 (Message-Digest algorithm 5) is a widely-used cryptographic hash function with a 128-bit hash value. As an Internet standard (RFC 1321), MD5 has been employed in a wide variety of security applications, and is also commonly used to check the integrity of files.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MD5

[DMC]

The changelog looks very promising. I'll check it out now. :)

[Djuice]

Why thank you :guns:

[Darksniper75]

I unlocked the M95, but in your mod there is no way to select it, all the unlockables are still locked. Playing with the patch 1.02 . Have a look at it. I think for sp it should include the 32/64 maps and the bots.

Cheers

[Djuice]

There is no unlockable items in SP for some strange reason, Blame EA/DICE for not implementing unlockable weapon in SP. This is ofcourse if you patched the game.

Currently there are people making 32/64 maps for single player but without an AI editor there is soo much you can do with a notepad.

[Darksniper75]

There is no unlockable items in SP for some strange reason, Blame EA/DICE for not implementing unlockable weapon in SP. This is ofcourse if you patched the game.

Currently there are people making 32/64 maps for single player but without an AI editor there is soo much you can do with a notepad.

The 32 map was working on the demo, think it's here also on the forum. Tried to replace the m24 via the sniper.con , didnt work either. No M95, no use to play the mod.

Cheers

[Djuice]

if you are so desperate to use the M95 Barrett, open the file objects_realism, go to kits, choose team and then select the sniper.con file, edit the line ObjectTemplate.addTemplate USRIF_M24

and replace it with ObjectTemplate.addTemplate ussni_m95_barret, save the file and then load the game either with a shortcut or my batch file.

[Djuice]

very small update

Version 2.7.5


Added MD5s files into the mods folder


Vehicles

- Changed the MBT main cannon fire back to default fire keys


Stationary/Handheld weapons

- Added Burst fire to MP5A3


Light Soldier Models

- Bullets now do extra damage to Thighs and Shoulders compare to lower arm and lower legs sections


AI

- Fixed the AI not been able to fire the MBTs Main cannon

Download available from here:
http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~bf42players/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=26199
http://forums.filefront.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=36625

[Darksniper75]

if you are so desperate to use the M95 Barrett, open the file objects_realism, go to kits, choose team and then select the sniper.con file, edit the line ObjectTemplate.addTemplate USRIF_M24

and replace it with ObjectTemplate.addTemplate ussni_m95_barret, save the file and then load the game either with a shortcut or my batch file.

Lol, I see what I did wrong, I editted the bf2 dir

Cheers

[StolidSnake]

Hey Dejuice, I like your mod a lot but can you tell me how to edit the number of bots (rather than the tickets). I folowed your instructions in the readme but I must have messed something up because it didn't work.

Here's the file - which lines do I need to change?:

echo ************************************************** ***************************************
echo AIDefault.ai ************************************************** **************************
echo ************************************************** ***************************************

aiSettings.setNSides 2
aiSettings.setAutoSpawnBots 1

REM aiSettings.setMaxNBots 64
REM aiSettings.maxBotsIncludeHumans 1
REM aiSettings.setBotSkill 0.4

rem To spawn more than 15 bots in SP, use the following lines instead of the three lines above.
rem Note that this is totaly unsupported, it will affect your system's performance
rem and may even crash your game. That being said, you will most likely be able to run a lot
rem more bots than 15 on your system.

rem Example for 32 bot game with expert bots

aiSettings.overrideMenuSettings 1
aiSettings.setMaxNBots 31
aiSettings.maxBotsIncludeHumans 0
aiSettings.setBotSkill 0.8

run BotNames.ai

aiSettings.setInformationGridDimension 32


run AIPathFinding.ai

rem EOF

[Djuice]

aiSettings.setMaxNBots 31

thats the line, just change the number to how many you want.

[StolidSnake]

Thanks for your quick reply. I'd been changing the line with the same name above it :rolleyes:

[Ghiest]

Possibly the most complete mod I've seen to date, well done mate. What a blast to play.

[Cobra_SFX]

Tried it out - worked a treat nice work :)

EDIT... i would remove the blood effect as it stays in mid-air when you drop a guy

[DaSniper]

This mod is great but im waiting for the Serverside files so I can host a server for it.

[Djuice]

What files do i need so it can be hosted onto a dedicated server?

[DaSniper]

Im not sure... very confused about that myself. You might want to get a copy of the Dedicated Server files so you can check out what there is.

[Djuice]

IF anyone got any ideas, i would like to hear them

[satcomNL]

hey Djuice, i tried setting it up with my clan on a dedicate, but it keeps on whining about unmodified files.....

any idea's? i got a 10MBit 24/7 testserver if u want.

i really want to see this mod running on our server!

[$G-MONEY SMITH$]

if you want some ideas on ur mod i have plenty, i like it i got 320 points in a bot match, lol, anyways the guns need to be returned to the right kits but you can put teh medic gun as engineer also would be nice take away c4 from all the otehr classes besides special ops, no double zoom on special ops guns, when shooting th m24 make it un scope to show reload anitmation, fix the recoil there is none, its way to easy to kill people, the heavy machine guns are unstoppable (saw) is deadly, and ummm thats about it... :D

[Snazzy]

Here's some suggestions:

- DC helo physics (or at least make them faster and more manouverable)

- Get rid of magic engineer support on supply crates, puts much more emphasis on engineer class (nice m16 btw).

- Lower the Mine throwing distance (unless they're actually the same weight as frisbees in real life :P)

- Consider claymore throwing aswell, because realisticly you couldn't throw something that far and always have it land standing upright.

- Longer sprint distance.

- Radar for planes, if possible.

- Give us more reason to pick assault, perhaps increase the body armour?

I'll probably think of more later.

[Djuice]

ill take them all into consideration, i already gave the Assault more (12) 40mm grenades to make them more playable, i dont know how to modify supply crates or its reload time at the moment, and once i do find how i will definitely change them. Ill try and change the Helo physics/movements in my next release :p

The M249 SAW in real life actually has very lil recoil, gave the Engineer C4s, coz they can blow up bridges and other building, ive already lowered the amount of AT mines that engineers and AT classes can carry.

I gave removed the HK G3A3 from the US medic class and gave it an MP5A3 instead due to weight constraints (Dont think a medic can carry 100 pounds of gear and still able to to perform miracles) Ill display M24 bolt action scene after each shot =P

Thanks for the heads up

[Snazzy]

heavy machine guns are unstoppable (saw) is deadly

That's how it should be whilst prone, makes support a worthy class. When Standing/Walking it shouldn't be near as accurate, but still deadly close range.

the guns need to be returned to the right kits

I like how the engineer kit has a better gun, however it probably should swap with the medic's for balance reasons.
For example, on USMC Medic's have M16's and Engineers have G3's instead of the other way round. BF2 needs Engineers, not more and more medics.

I agree with everything else Monkey Smith said, though i'd be careful when tweaking the sniper rifle, you don't want it to be as useless as BF2's.

[Djuice]

Actually the USMC doesnt use the G3A3, tho middle eastern army's do. Thats why i removed it, and replaced it with a less heavier weapon like the MP5A3, tho maybe i should give it an M16A2 as they are standard issued.

[Snazzy]

You can give medic's a gun that you think is most realistic and balancing at the same time. I'm sure i'd be happy with that.

And if you don't know what else to give engineers then perhaps hand them a shotgun with more range?

[Djuice]

hehe, decisions decisions,...

[Djuice]

i was also thinking of removing all primary firearms for the AT classes, what you guys think? Basically make them Anti-Vehicle specialist only, unless against infantry as they only have a pistol as their only range weapon.

feedback.. please

[Snazzy]

That's a tricky one, i'll wait to see what someone else says.

Is there blood in this mod? If not, are you planning to include some? :P

[Djuice]

There is blood puffs, but no blood sprays/decals

[The Sheikh]

I scanned your initial list of features to this mod, sorry if you already mentioned it and I didn't see it. Is it possible to give an MBT both Sabot and HEAT rounds? Giving the main gun alternative ways of taking out different targets would be cool (kinetic versus chemical). And is there a way of making the appropraite tanks have a large plume of exhaust when they start/rev up?

[Djuice]

Yes, i can get MBTs both APFSDS/HEAT rounds, but nearly all modern MBTs are designed to defeat HEAT rounds, only APFSDS rounds are dedicated tank destroying rounds, as they are able to penetrate alot more then HEAT rounds.

Tho i can see your point in adding HEAT, for soft/lightly armoured targets like HMMWVs and APCs.

As for plume smokes, i can make them larger or smaller, but it will take some editing of the effects.

[The Sheikh]

With the penetration properties of materials in this game, is it possible to punch a tungsten dart through a building wall? Maybe we need to wait a vew more game generations before we can turn buildings into rubble :D But other than that I'd have to agree that the blast reactive armour on some tanks just take the fun out of shaped charges and other things that go bang. Still it would be cool to have different damage properties between kinetic and chemical. Chemical could have a larger blast outside the vehicle and cause more fragmentation damage whereas a kinetic dart would get right into an armoured target to mash it up from the inside.

[$G-MONEY SMITH$]

Yes, i can get MBTs both APFSDS/HEAT rounds, but nearly all modern MBTs are designed to defeat HEAT rounds, only APFSDS rounds are dedicated tank destroying rounds, as they are able to penetrate alot more then HEAT rounds.

Tho i can see your point in adding HEAT, for soft/lightly armoured targets like HMMWVs and APCs.

As for plume smokes, i can make them larger or smaller, but it will take some editing of the effects.
buy the way guys its HEAP rounds, but give most of the us teh standard m16 i say if you want realism, and the spec ops give him his silncer back and same for other teams, take away teh l85 thing for teh chinese spec ops, and give the medic the ak back. and give the mec teh ak101, for teh standard and keep a sub machine gn for tehanti tanks, would be nice.

[DaSniper]

Well Im gonna help you out of I can Djuice. Im working on the serverside mod to make the mod runnable on a dedicated server.

[DaSniper]

Hmm I got the server to run. but everytime I join it I just get a debug error about some network thing. Im wondering if its related to me having the server on the same comp im running the game on.

[DaSniper]

Im still getting the debug error so im gonna take a break right now and see if anyelse gets it before I do or before I come back.

[WarPig]

This mod is good :)
This mod on a dedicated server would be played more than vanilla BF2 :)

Just a suggestion or 2.
I used these in the BF2ee mod to good affect...

Plz Slow down the TV guided missiles on the choppers.

Weapons/Armament/missiles/agm114_hellfire_tv/agm114_hellfire_tv.tweak
ObjectTemplate.acceleration 300
ObjectTemplate.maxSpeed 125

Gives the gunner more time to guide the missile due to slightly slower max speed.
Helps heaps when bots are flying.

Also the stinger has a range of 6 miles or 10km.
This isn't reflected in the seeking abilities..see below for modified ones.
Stingers were also designed to have a kill ratio of at least 66% for a head on, incomming aspect target (jet aircraft).
i have trippled the distance for lockon (still not anywhere near 6 miles), made the lockon cone smaller and made the relock time from 60 to 45.

Weapons/Armament/missiles/igla_9k38/igla_9k38.tweak
Heat seeking code:
ObjectTemplate.createComponent SeekClosestTargetComp
ObjectTemplate.seek.targetType TTHeat
ObjectTemplate.seek.trackingDelay 0.2
ObjectTemplate.seek.maxAngleLock 10
ObjectTemplate.seek.maxDistLock 1200
ObjectTemplate.seek.directionBonus 0.5
ObjectTemplate.seek.reLockTime 45

Aircraft still own the skies but they need to exercise caution now.

[Djuice]

i kinda removed the TV guided missiles on the helicopters in my current version, as FYI the 9M120 ATAKA-V on the MI-28N HAVOC is Laser Beam Rider SACLOS guided, not tv guided. This goes for the AGM-114K and HJ-8 on the AH-1Z and Z-10, so i totally removed the TV guided missiles, and used the Laser targeting system instead.

As for the Stinger and Igla their max effective range is around 5-6Kms, i might have to reduced the lock angle on them.

[$G-MONEY SMITH$]

to bad the bots are to damn stupid to use this sweet *** stuff uve made, i want a server up!!

[Djuice]

HEAP? Is that meant to be High Explosive Armor Piercing?

Which tank uses that kinda munitions?

I dont think all USMC infantry uses M16A2, The standard GI do,combat medic aswell, dont this there is an engineer in a fire team, so ill stick him with his default shotgun :P And i dont think ATs soldier carry a smg, or a rifle for that matter, they usually pretty far from combat. And usually more then 2 in a group.


Anyways anyone with anymore ideas i would gratefully like to hear them :p

[$G-MONEY SMITH$]

expalin what other gun does teh us infantry man use? HEAP rounds are used in tanks to take out soft targets with ease in POE they had them they are HIGH EXPOLSIVE ARMOR PIERCING like you said yes the abrams uses it, the have a much greater explosion then the sabot and do littel to armored vehichles, the sabot round shouldnt bearly havea explosion not a big one though.

[Djuice]

What i meant was GI/medic uses the M16A2, Combat engineers might use SMG/Carbine type weapon, AT soldiers would be arm with sidearm (pistol) as they are like usually 500+ metres away. Specops would use wither M4 or FN scar, support would use the SAW and Snipers either M107/M24/M14

[$G-MONEY SMITH$]

i agree im saying that the core of the us military is the m16a2 rifle most men are equiped with one, i think engineer should get teh standard m16 withou the m203 and the anti tank like u said is fine, and special ops should get a silenced pistol and the m4 i wish teh m4 was silenced...

[SuperDuper]

F-35B 20mm Cannon rate of Fire increased to 1500rpm

The F-35B is suppose to have one external 25-mm GAU-12 gun pod (no internal gun). This would mean that the F-35B in game gun is suppose to be more powerful than the F/A-18C.
http://www.aerospaceweb.org/aircraft/fighter/f35/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GAU-12_Equalizer
With a harder-hitting projectile and comparable muzzle velocity, it is more lethal than the older M61 Vulcan...
The GAU-12 will be the cannon armament of the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter. The USAF F-35A CTOL will have an internal GAU-12 with 180 rounds of ammunition, while the F-35B STOVL version for the USMC and Royal Navy and the F-35C for the USN will carry the same weapon in a streamlined centerline pod with 220 rounds of ammunition.
# Rate of fire: 3,600 - 4,200 rounds per minute
# Muzzle velocity: (HEI) 3,400 ft/s (1,036 m/s); (API) 3,280 ft/s (1,000 m/s).
# Projectile weight: (HEI) 6.5 oz (184 g); (API) 7.58 oz (215 g)

Not sure if this means anything to this mod but since we are talking about a Realism mod then it may matter.

While reading about the GAU-12 Cannon I found this which may be of interest:
The Equalizer is also used in the ACU-130U 'Spooky' gunship (where one cannon is mounted on the port side) and the US Marine Corps LAV AD air-defense vehicle. Other applications have been planned for the GAU-12/U, including a mounting for the AH-1 Cobra helicopter.
An AH-1 Cobra with this gun would be a better match against the Havoc's gun.

[Djuice]

Hey thanks for the heads-up superdooper :p

If you find anymore useful information that i might need i would appreicate it.

As for the Ah-1Z its armed with M197 three barrel 20 mm gun, uses similar ammunition on those found in the M61A2 Vulcan cannon

[Snazzy]

It seems the guns have satisfying accuracy and damage, though they could do with a little recoil.

[Djuice]

i reckon the recoil for most of the guns are fine, only ones that i think need some modifying would be the AK-47/Type 81

[DaSniper]

Yup. So far Dedicated server stuff has me confused. So I hope Djuice you either figure it out or get some more help to figure it out. I know the mod Jetpowered got theirs to work fine. So you might want to ask the guys what they did to get it to work. This is a fun/rocking/most awesome of all time/1337 mod and it shouldnt wasted on Single Player.

[Djuice]

Version 2.8.0


Vehicles

- F-35B GAU-12 rate of fire increased, magazine count reduced to 220 rounds, damage increased.

- AH-1Z/Z-10/HAVOC AT-GMs now use Laser targeting, and auto-locking using on-board laser designator

- Modify the flight characteristic/physics of AH-1Z/Z-10/HAVOC

- Increase speed of M1A2SEP

- Increased M1A2SEP M829A3 APFSDS damage by 15%

- Reduced blast radius of all MBTs APFSDS munitions

- Increased velocity of all MBTs APFSDS munitions

- Reduced velocity on XM1028 120mm Canister Anti-Infantry munition



Soldiers

- Double the sprint recovery time

- Reduce time it takes for blood effect to disappear


Stationary/Handheld Guns

- Reduce zoom on Ironsight aiming

- 40mm Grenades no longer have the smoke trail

- Increase 40mm grenades magazine size to 12

- Reduce the number of AT mines magazine to 2

- Gave C4 a rather moderate blast radius

- Increased that damage of all 5.56mm/5.45mm/7.62mm/9mm Rifles/SMGs/Pistols

- M24 Sniper rifle will display the bolt action animation after firing

- Reduced accuracy on M249/RPK-74/Type-95 LMG while standing and crouching

- Reduced accuracy on all sniper rifle while standing

- M24 Magazine size reduced to 5 and magazines increased to 12

- Reduced Zoom on all sniper rifles/M4/AK-74U

- Russian 40mm Grenades now utilizes VOG-25 HE-FRAG, velocity increased, range increased and
blast radius increased.

- USMC 40mm Grenades now utilizes M433 HE-DP, velocity increased, range increased, blast radius
increased, and damage increased, does more damage against light vehicles



Kit Changes


- US Assault Unlock weapons changed to G36C and 4 M-67 HE grenades

- MEC Assault Unlock weapons changed to AK-101 and 4 M-67 HE grenades

- CH Assault Unlock weapons changed to L85A1 and 4 M-67 HE grenades

- US Medic Primary weapon changed to M16A2

- MEC Medic is now armed with G3A3

- CH Medics have the AK-47

- MEC Specops has his original AK-74U

- CH Specops now has his QBZ-97 back

- US/CH/MEC Engineers now have their Shotguns back



AI

- Reduce AI engagement range with pistols

Download from here:

http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~bf42players/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=26435
http://forums.filefront.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=36728

[The Sheikh]

buy the way guys its HEAP rounds, but give most of the us teh standard m16 i say if you want realism, and the spec ops give him his silncer back and same for other teams, take away teh l85 thing for teh chinese spec ops, and give the medic the ak back. and give the mec teh ak101, for teh standard and keep a sub machine gn for tehanti tanks, would be nice.

High-Explosive Anti-Tank, High-Explosive Armour Piercing, does the same thing ;) Things that go boom; its all fun and games.


Djuice, nice to see you've made those missiles SACLOS, I'm thinking its going to be too easy to just guide a missile in. More realisitic to keep line-of-sight and employ the popular beam-rider technology of today. These cannot be jammed the way fully active missiles can.

[The Sheikh]

Should have edited my previous post, but I just want to pop a quick idea in here.... is it possible to have permanent blood stains that remain on the ground after a player respawns? Just a small patch to indicate where players have fallen, that doesn't fade until the end of the round.

[Djuice]

hrmm, about the blood, i dont think i can do that without the editor. But ill give it a try.

[Djuice]

Just added the M82A1 Barrett to the US Sniper, gave it a new firing sound too

Tho there are a couple of animation glitches

[CXZAR]

does it work good, besides the animation glitches?

[Neonmaster]

I downloaded this mod, only to find out that when I started an SP game, I couldn't move my mouse cursor or use my keyboard in the game. I had to alt tab and exit out. I deleted the folder to uninstall, and now when I play BF2 Sp the same thing happens where my cursor is still and the keyboard won't work, but other things are happening (the tutorer talks fine)

[CXZAR]

i dont thing is a mod problem man, try to make a fresh install of your bf2 game and maybe u can update your drivers, even mouse drivers too...

[Frosty289]

no it's definatley a mod problem. I'm trying to wait to release mine until the MDK comes out (hopefully very soon) so we can get some real mod folders and mod support stuff that we don't have now.

[NYC]

Someone needs to make Multiplayer server.

[Neonmaster]

i dont thing is a mod problem man, try to make a fresh install of your bf2 game and maybe u can update your drivers, even mouse drivers too...

Wow, how is it me? I was playing perfectly with my mouse before this. I uninstalled it successfully, but now when I throw mines on the regular game I crash. Anything? You didn't read my post because it happened only after I installed this. Mouse drivers would have no effect on my mouse not working if it was working before I downloaded the mod.

[Djuice]

i noticed that sometimes it randomly decides to delete your controls, in your profiles, you need to redefine your keys again.

its a bug that im looking into at the moment, doesnt happen all that often, but sometimes it does.

[CXZAR]

Wow, how is it me? I was playing perfectly with my mouse before this. I uninstalled it successfully, but now when I throw mines on the regular game I crash. Anything? You didn't read my post because it happened only after I installed this. Mouse drivers would have no effect on my mouse not working if it was working before I downloaded the mod.

u need to get laid man, relax..

[NYC]

OMG everytime I run the levels bf2.realism.bat file it just flashes the black installation thingy and then stops. I know that a windows antispyware program keeps blocking it because i installed it a first time, and it worked just fine. And then I had to unistall it for other reasons, But now it wont work. So I uninstalled the antispayware program and its still does the flashy thingy...Can anyone help me?

[Djuice]

If you installed it correctly, ie: copied over the levels, into the levels folder. You can add this +menu 1 +fullscreen 1 +modPath mods/bf2_realism to your BF2 shortcut, it should work the same as the bf2_realism.bat file.

[NYC]

I get into the level folder, and I double click on the copylevels.bat file and it doesnt do anything. Its just flashes the thing that copies the levels, but it doesnt fully run it. The first time I installed it, it brought up a windows antispyware thing and it asked if I wanted to allow it and it worked, but now its not asking that even though I unistalled the spyware thing. I dont get it.

[Djuice]

you can just manually copy the leves over yourself, copy all the map folders in bf2\levels and paste it in the levels folder of bf2_realism

it the same thing

[DaSniper]

Hey Djuice any luck on the server side part of it?

[ataxy]

hi to everybody! first post here but wanted to say hi before going on with my post.
ok now.
i have installed your mod great job by the way it does alot in boosting the game action
one thing how ever the us attack helicopter the laser guided missile well they arnt guided anymore i mean you click fire and it just shoots right in front of you aside from that i havent seen any other problem

[CXZAR]

yeah i think the Guided missile feels kind of funky to me too, now that u mention it... by the way, welcome to the forums!!

[DaSniper]

Polaris did u get it to work online????

[Djuice]

nope he hasnt, im just working on how to get it to work on a dedicated server atm before i do anything else.

its a pain in the ***

[Nathan0490]

yes we are all working to get it up guys, we will post an update when we are finished

[WarPig]

well i had a go at it last night, basically copied the jetpowered mod server files and modified the paths etc for BF2 realism.
Copied over the objects realism and server realism files to the server and kicked it off no worries using the "+modPath mods/bf2_realism +loadLevel Strike_at_Karkand" swithes at the end to the dedicated server shortcut.
The server ran and loaded 100%.
On the client side when i activated the MOD i could see the server listed.
it'd load up the map and when the Join button appeared it crashed..

Took MD5 files out..put MD5 files in..still crashed

changed client files changed server files copied maps over..still crashed...

Just thought i'd post this cause it might help someone out :|

[Djuice]

yeah that what seems to be the problem, it could be the AI files
likes bots trying to join

[ataxy]

i have installed your mod great job by the way it does alot in boosting the game action
one thing how ever the us attack helicopter the laser guided missile well they arnt guided anymore i mean you click fire and it just shoots right in front of you aside from that i havent seen any other problem

Djuice just wanted to know if you have any idea how to fix or what may be causing this and to CXZAR thx for the welcome i will try to hover around from time to time anyway this seem to be a great forum for BF2 info

[Djuice]

Well they are guided, you just need to wait for the lockon sound, or that lil small X shape this over a vehicle, you need to look carefully as the onboard computer automatically targets and lockons for you, you need to wait for the signal, if your on the USMC side your character kinda say "I've got a Lock" that means you can fire, as your lockon to a target, firing the missile without a lock, would mean the missile flys straight.

[JordanStreet]

is there any way to get the blood off ? do you no what file i could edit ?

[Djuice]

just delete the files effects\impacts\small

in the objects_realism.zip file in the bf2_realism directory

[ataxy]

Well they are guided, you just need to wait for the lockon sound, or that lil small X shape this over a vehicle, you need to look carefully as the onboard computer automatically targets and lockons for you, you need to wait for the signal, if your on the USMC side your character kinda say "I've got a Lock" that means you can fire, as your lockon to a target, firing the missile without a lock, would mean the missile flys straight.

thx i appreciate

[imported_Davis]

Multiplayer mod to be released soon... nothing more to say ;)

[geddeth]

Hey guys, looking forward to the server-side of this mod. FWIW ;)

[JordanStreet]

just delete the files effects\impacts\small

in the objects_realism.zip file in the bf2_realism directory
Thanks, great mod btw!

[SHookPR]

using that maplist.con


mapList.append strike_at_karkand gpm_cq 32
MapList.append gulf_of_oman gpm_cq 32
MapList.append fushe_pass gpm_cq 32
MapList.append operation_clean_sweep gpm_cq 32
MapList.append dalian_plant gpm_cq 32
MapList.append daqing_oilfields gpm_cq 32
MapList.append sharqi_peninsula gpm_cq 32
MapList.append songhua_stalemate gpm_cq 32
MapList.append mashtuur_city gpm_cq 32
MapList.append kubra_dam gpm_cq 32
MapList.append dragon_valley gpm_cq 32
MapList.append zatar_wetlands gpm_cq 32


+ using the serversettings.con created by the ded. server software located in the folder documents

+ these

"D:\Program Files\EA Games\Battlefield 2 Server\bf2_w32ded.exe" +modPath mods/bf2_realism +dedicated

made finally a Multiplayer server for your mod possible...its just running and working...

Predators [RealismMod 2.1]

80.190.230.102


i let it run for 24 hours if you want test it...hope its loading all maps...

there is a problem with the serversettings.con which will not store everything if not loaded from the ded. server software...no idea why...but your mod is running

I like the 5 claymores for the special forces...btw.

[jdogg88-Fed]

very nice put it on multi player

[SHookPR]

very nice put it on multi player


should be the newest version if nothing changed last 3 hours....have been writing accidently 2.1 into the server name...but i let it run like that now

[D.O.A.*PR*]

Not sure what's going on: It loads everything then before you can hit the join button it crashes to desktop... :confused:

[SHookPR]

Not sure what's going on: It loads everything then before you can hit the join button it crashes to desktop... :confused:

unzip the file into the mod folder, then copy the maps from the level folder in the original bf2 into the level folder of the mod and then hit the bat file from the mod loading the mod for the client...did you use the bat file or loading over the normal game?

[toXicRabbit]

hi great mod i must say.

There are things i must say about M-24. it should not have that much recoil. and is the download link in the first post of this thread the latest one? cause my m-24 has like 20 bullets in a clip

[_Hazard_]

okay, i set up the mod v2[1].7 and played in SP on Karkland for about 30 minutes. I exited to see if i could find a multyplayer server and found this thread.

I just joined this IP 80.190.230.102, finished loading, showed the join game button, i pressed escape, and bam CTD. I used the .bat file to copy the maps but i loaded the mod by starting Vanilla BF2 and then loading Realism Mod from community page.

????????????????????????

the mod rocks and i want some MP ownage!!!!

[Djuice]

you can get the latest version of the mod on page 5, of this thread.

[_Hazard_]

all i see are people wanting a MP patch and a persons attempt at a server setup...what post specifically. I saw the one saying a MP version will be out soon, but nothing else...

[Djuice]

Yes, working on it!!

the problem is finding out what is wrong with it, and trying to find a work around.

[SHookPR]

like i have been writing before


if you have been pasting all levels into the level folder of the mod + if you are starting the mod with the bf2_realism.bat file you should be able joining

Predators [BF2_RealsimMod 2.6]

80.190.230.102


i have been on it checking it out a while....Special Forces with 5 claymores...thats great to keep the back secured ;)


Would like to see a game like 6 vs. 6...thats enough having fun....



the only thing we need then is another gamemode...like TeamDeathMatch...i simply do not like to wait at flags....I want hunt down a target...not pulling down a flag exposed to the world....

[CXZAR]

i have a small problem with the lastest version of the mod, sometimes i get severe slowdonws while playing, and it doesnt happen at all with vanilla BF2 or previous versions of the mod, why its this, and there's any way to solve it?

[_Hazard_]

okay, i got on the server and all is good. well i was the only one there but besides that its all good.

HOWEVER...For Sp is there a way to change the number of bots that spawn. My pc cant handle the 31 bots. I get under 10fps on all Low settings, no AA/AF. my cpu is struggling here!

would i just edit an INI file or what?

HELP PLEASE!!!!

[WarPig]

_HAZARD_

I am at work so this is a basic what to do:
A. search the forums cause this has been posted a million times.
B. Still no luck goto the BF2\Mods\BF2_Realism\AI folder and open the AIdefault file with notepad, look for the line that ends in 31 and change it to 24.
Save and reboot BF2. play BF2_Realism with 24 bots.

[WarPig]

Predators [BF2_RealsimMod 2.6]

80.190.230.102



If you have got a dedicated server running plz share a 'HOW TO' and \ or the files plz.
Would help this mod and the community out big time :salute:

[Soldats]

yo djuice next time you make a release just edit your first post its so much easier than combing through this thread (its starting to get pretty big) and just make a post like this:
*Bump* new release
just so it shows up as unread :D

[_Hazard_]

thanks WarPig, now im back into 40FPS range!!!

[D.O.A.*PR*]

you can get the latest version of the mod on page 5, of this thread.

I do not see it on page 5. Is this accurate?
Found 2.8 on page 4. Is this the latest?

[DaSniper]

Yes thats the latest. Djuice i think posted that late at night or something where he wasnt paying attention to what he was doing lol. No offence we all have those times ;)

[WarPig]

thanks WarPig, now im back into 40FPS range!!!

No Worries mate.
I play with 64 bots on a amd 64, 3gig rig with 1 gig ram and an ATI 9500pro.
Going from 512meg ram to 1 gig ram made a massive difference in game play for me.
Some ppl recommend 2gig ram.

Also go back to the ATI 5.1 cats for your 9700.
Shaders actually work properly and you wont crash at random intervals (like with 5.5, 5.6 and 5.7 cats).

https://support.ati.com/ics/support/KBAnswer.asp?questionID=1442

[WarPig]

Djuice:
Any chance of making the Chopper pilot able to toggle between rockets and the laser guided missiles if there's no gunner?

This would be awesome :)

[WarPig]

Also how about replacing the stinger with the RBS-70 Laser guided anti Aircraft Missile?
http://www.army-technology.com/projects/rbs70/
I used to use this in the Australian Army and it's an excellent piece of kit.

Should just need to replace the seeker on the IGLA with the Predator AT??

[King Cockery]

Okay i played this yesterday in multiplayer and it was very fun... But you should increase the damage of F-18's machinegun coz it's nothing compared to the F-15. I raped everyone with the F-15 and were good on dogfights but i couldn't do it with the F-18 coz the machinegun was underpowered and it didn't do as much damage. Otherwise very fun mod and sniping was far more enjoyable than in BF2 :) Keep up the good work!

[SHookPR]

I do not see it on page 5. Is this accurate?
Found 2.8 on page 4. Is this the latest?


thats funny....now i know why people cannot join if the newest version is on page 4 because i have been doanloading on page 1 not finding it on page 5....

because some of my friends want try it out i will setup the server now again to 2.8...

server specs later again

[_Hazard_]

2.8 server! woot

[SHookPR]

Predators [Realism_Mod 2.8]

80.190.230.102

have not tried it out yet....but server has been loading so far

[imported_Jammydodger]

Can some 1 post a link to 2.8 please, I can only find 2.6.

Cheers

[SHookPR]

Can some 1 post a link to 2.8 please, I can only find 2.6.

Cheers

its on page 4 of this thread

[imported_Jammydodger]

Cheers ;)

[SHookPR]

Djuice...i have the new version on the server and exactly the same new version on my PC and i get an error, modified content....

i have really no idea about the reason....installed it now 3 times using this time the level.bat to have everything identically and it does not function!

I know that i have been playing yesterday with the 2.6 version and it has been working!

Will restore this version 2.6 again trying out if that one is working for me...if yes i will tell you

[Djuice]

its the md5 files i think

[SHookPR]

its the md5 files i think

okay i will checkout something....call u later...

[SHookPR]

its the md5 files i think


you are right!

for MP gaming you must cut the levels.md5 game out of the mods main folder placing it anywhere for backup! Only then you are able to join the server, tried it out and mod is working for MP ONLY without that levels.md5


for Singleplayer place this file again into the same main folder of BF2_Realism 2.8

[toXicRabbit]

its on page 4 of this thread


Download from here:

http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~bf42pla...e=post&id=26435
http://forums.filefront.com/attachm...achmentid=36728


lol dude u copied the ... too. lol

they're here. taken from page 4 anyway.

http://forums.filefront.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=36728
http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~bf42players/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=26435

[SHookPR]

lol dude u copied the ... too. lol

they're here. taken from page 4 anyway.

http://forums.filefront.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=36728
http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~bf42players/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=26435


thanks alot...

[SHookPR]

just figured out that the clients must not cut out the levels.md5 but the server must or its a crash


i can join the server with a version 2.8 now without changing anything.....

[Djuice]

Okay i played this yesterday in multiplayer and it was very fun... But you should increase the damage of F-18's machinegun coz it's nothing compared to the F-15. I raped everyone with the F-15 and were good on dogfights but i couldn't do it with the F-18 coz the machinegun was underpowered and it didn't do as much damage. Otherwise very fun mod and sniping was far more enjoyable than in BF2 :) Keep up the good work!

Errr, they both exactly the same, they both do the same amount of damage, same rate of fire, and same amount of ammunition....

[satcomNL]

Hello there!

the mod is awesome!
but a lot of people have difficulties installing it.

so, no only for my friends, but for everyone who wants a LAZY install of the realism mod 2.8, here is a one-click installer....

http://www.dffclan.com/downloads/BF2_Realism_Djuize.2.8.exe

Oops! i just noticed i spelled the maker's name wrong! FORGiVE ME!!!
oh, and it could be a few clicks more :)

Enjoy!

[Djuice]

The next release should be dedicated server supportable :P

Sir Community is currently testing my latest version on their dedicate server.
If they do get it to work correctly and in a near perfect way, credit goes to them for making it work :D

[Djuice]

Hello there!

the mod is awesome!
but a lot of people have difficulties installing it.

so, no only for my friends, but for everyone who wants a LAZY install of the realism mod 2.8, here is a one-click installer....

http://www.dffclan.com/downloads/BF2_Realism_Djuize.2.8.exe

Oops! i just noticed i spelled the maker's name wrong! FORGiVE ME!!!
oh, and it could be a few clicks more :)

Enjoy!

hahha, thanks for that, np about the same, also in the next release it would come with an installer for all those people who dont know how to read readmes or who are extremely lazy :D

[satcomNL]

FYI Djuice,
if u use clickteam's installer, to get the path from registry, use this :

ROOT KEY : HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE
key : SOFTWARE\Electronic Arts\EA Games\battlefield 2
subkey : installDir

- it might save some trouble -

[SHookPR]

The next release should be dedicated server supportable :P

Sir Community is currently testing my latest version on their dedicate server.
If they do get it to work correctly and in a near perfect way, credit goes to them for making it work :D

the 2.6 mod has been working with the dedicated server already, you just have to copy the maplist.con from the ded. server into settings....i`ve posted that a couple of times


the 2.8 mod is working if you delete the levels.md5


i think most players cannot join because of the wrong installation or they have forgotten to copy the levels into the mod...for that an installer is a good job, because not everybody is a PC Freak (has nothing to do being lazy)

[BoozeHound1]

Hello there!

the mod is awesome!
but a lot of people have difficulties installing it.

so, no only for my friends, but for everyone who wants a LAZY install of the realism mod 2.8, here is a one-click installer....

http://www.dffclan.com/downloads/BF2_Realism_Djuize.2.8.exe

Oops! i just noticed i spelled the maker's name wrong! FORGiVE ME!!!
oh, and it could be a few clicks more :)

Enjoy!

I LOVE U!!!! :D

[toffa_h]

Wow, this mod is awesome. I just played it for three hours or more, in a row. I haven't played that much BF2 in weeks! The game feels so much more alive, like it's a real war happening. The immersion and feel of the game has just improved so much. Thank you :) . Naturally the mod isn't finished and you might know of these issues all ready, but I figured I could tell of some issues I ran into (in no particular order):

Sometimes when I get hit (don't know if it's by bullets, granade fire, shells or something else entirely) I keep taking damage in the same way you do when you leave the combat area... almost as if I'm burning. Is this a game feature? I'm sorry, I haven't looked through exactly all the features you're implementing (yet). It's kind of annoying as you eventually die. So what's the point? Your death is innevitable it just takes another 10 seconds.

The sniper weapon seems a bit too powerful. I'm talking about the automatic ones. I once got 7 kills in a row in 4 seconds, no joke. I've always been good at sniping so it might just be that, that I'm a bit better than the average soldier, OR it could be that it's overpowered. It really was too easy to get kills though. Add more sway to the automatic sniper-rifles or make the shots more spaced out so that you can't fire it as quickly as, say, a pistol. The USMC rifle is much more balanced.

What's with all the classes having C4? And you gave the Special Operatives claymore mines? Somehow you've managed to make the SO both useless and overpowered. They're useless in the sense that you can be any class while taking out artillery/UAV/etc, making the Special Operatives... less "special". They are also overpowerd because they now have antipersonell mines. One things that the SO should have are smoke granades. It just fits with the whole infiltration and stealth part of the SO.

How come button number 4 isn't used for anything? It just selects the weapon you're currently using. I guess this is just a bug, but I thought you should know about it.

The pistols make too little damage in my opinion. Are you supposed to have to shoot about 8 bullets into the chest/neck/head area before they die?

This has been said, but the claymore mines and the anti-tank mines can be thrown much too far.

There were a few more issues with the mod, but all in all it was a great experience. Thank you once again and I hope I could help. If you need anybody for beta-testing you can always ask me. Now, I'll play the game some more :D

(BTW, have you sent this to planetbattlefield.com? Or maybe you're waiting for the multiplayer fix.)

[imported_Davis]

the 2.6 mod has been working with the dedicated server already, you just have to copy the maplist.con from the ded. server into settings....i`ve posted that a couple of times


the 2.8 mod is working if you delete the levels.md5


i think most players cannot join because of the wrong installation or they have forgotten to copy the levels into the mod...for that an installer is a good job, because not everybody is a PC Freak (has nothing to do being lazy)

Which is why Djuice provided a detailed Readme on the installation. I have also created an installer which installs the mod.

It was not the levels.md5 file. It was the AI Original.con within the Kit's causing the problems which i modified, besides some other's, so that it will not crash. Otherwise with these files in tact both the client and dedicated server it will either crash with no error or state that your client is not allowed to play with modified content.

[_Hazard_]

I downloaded and installed the 2.8 version with installer that is quoted at the top of the page. I just tried to join 80.190.230.102
I got 3 messages. The first 2 were something about select a server or along those lines. Then i got the modified content message. The only thing i have done to that file is change the number of SP bots to 19.

what do i need to do to play online????

[_Hazard_]

i tired reverting back to 31 bots in the AIdefault file. no use.
im reinstalling now

[toffa_h]

yeah, that's a question i have: can i choose 15 bots instead of 31?

[Djuice]

yeah, read the readme on how to change the numbers of bots.

[Djuice]

bumpady bump bumpppppp BUMMMPPPP!!!!!

Errr, updated version out on first page...

Silly me >.<

[imported_Davis]

Client 2.8b (http://files.filefront.com/READ_DETAILS_B4_DOWNLOADING/;3963769;;/fileinfo.html)

Dedicated SERVER 2.8b (http://files.filefront.com/READ_DETAILS_B4_DOWNLOADING/;3964018;;/fileinfo.html)

Currently 1 server running the mod and is passworded, for the time being, will be removed or changed. You can access it on 68.3.184.118:16569 password realismalpha69

Please read the full README and Changelog provided. There are several known bugs, which are currently being ironed out for the next release. Enjoy!

Credits goto Djuice for an awesome mod package.


Edit: Some may experience a shader's problem, which I am expecting to see, since BF2 gernerate's a new set of shader's for every modification. It's beyond me why DICE did not dynamically link the shaders. It's not neccesary for a mod of this calliber. I am currently testing this and quite possibly a new installer will be available.

[imported_Jammydodger]

Davis password dont work for that server m8.

[SHookPR]

I downloaded and installed the 2.8 version with installer that is quoted at the top of the page. I just tried to join 80.190.230.102
I got 3 messages. The first 2 were something about select a server or along those lines. Then i got the modified content message. The only thing i have done to that file is change the number of SP bots to 19.

what do i need to do to play online????


its back to the original game actually because not everybody has been able to join and i really did not find that reason...might be a problem with W2K...but if...why all can join server hosting the original...so i am waiting for a dedicated server version that has been tested...have been loading the game now 100 times in 3 days...thats way too much boring now... :laugh:

[Pvt.Caboose]

I just logged on it woks, man is this mod sweeeeeeet. well one thing you could look at is on the G36c when zoomed in a fireing the muzzle flash comes out right infront of the sites instead of infront of the muzzle.

Keep up the good work! :rock: :guns: :ar15: :nod:

[Nathan0490]

Today will be phase 2 of the Sirs Beta Testing Service, during this time the password will be changed and the game will be tested in a PRIVATE Session.

[Sir. OMF]

Edit: Some may experience a shader's problem, which I am expecting to see, since BF2 gernerate's a new set of shader's for every modification. It's beyond me why DICE did not dynamically link the shaders. It's not neccesary for a mod of this calliber. I am currently testing this and quite possibly a new installer will be available.

I will have to try the b version now, but what I'm presently looking at is taking the working shader cache folder and copying it to the Realism mod folder. So far what I know is that BF2 will recognize these shaders and use them and so far I have no stuttering, but since the problem at times appeared after a length of game play, I need to see how long I can play before the stuttering issue comes back or if it does at all. I will know more tonight.

[DaSniper]

Yes im getting an error when I try to start it up. a Shaders error.

[DaSniper]

if not everyone is getting this. Be sure the coding doesnt force it to search in like the C: Drive or something. I have my BF2 Installed in my E: drive so just to be checking that. I havent found out how to fix it either.

[Sir. OMF]

The link to the 2.8b version keeps giving me errors. I tried to find it going through filefront from the home page, but all I found was the original 2.8.

[_Hazard_]

the 2.8b client link worked for me...i havent tested out the game yet
ill edit this later if any problems come up

[Sir. OMF]

Filefront was having an issue earlier and I finally got the file. Can't wait till I get home to try it.

[imported_Davis]

I will have to try the b version now, but what I'm presently looking at is taking the working shader cache folder and copying it to the Realism mod folder. So far what I know is that BF2 will recognize these shaders and use them and so far I have no stuttering, but since the problem at times appeared after a length of game play, I need to see how long I can play before the stuttering issue comes back or if it does at all. I will know more tonight.

It's all you need to do, but you will need to load bf2_realism first for the game to create the directory. Then you can exit and copy the shaders over. :)

The Realism mod is only a physics pack. The only time you need a mod to render the shaders is when you change your settings or new materials are introduced.

[$G-MONEY SMITH$]

hey you guys go in davis's server im in there go in and play and DAVIS can you make the spawn time 15 seconds again cause teh medics have no chance to save people, and its just lame at 0, and dont make the maps so big put like a couple 64 but put some 16 there fun especialy with realism!!

[toffa_h]

i agree, make the server a 16 players only maps. you will never reach 64 players anyway, especially not with the ping i was having.

[DaSniper]

Best thing to do is set it to 64 players and make them play on 16 player version of Strike at Karkand.

[$G-MONEY SMITH$]

yeah we should all go in there if he does.

[Stalls]

Not to be a stickler, and I don't even think its possible yet cause I haven't seen anyone making new weapons this far into modding, but you're regular infantry grunt in the Marines (in Iraq) carries an M16A4. Basically M16, scoped, with that broom stick foregrip stickin down. 2 of my bestfriends have been to Iraq and back, both Infantry, both Marines.


Engineers carry the standard M16. My third friend we've sent over there is a USMC Engineer.



That's my only input. lol. When modding gets that advanced, I hope to god someone gives the Spec Ops or someone the A4, it's so badass looking in real life.

[Djuice]

Well you need modellers to make new models, and im kinda busy with my coding for a major mod production group at the moment, ill see if i can get someone over there to make one, but i highly doubt they will just for me >.<

[Djuice]

oh btw the socoms use FN Scars, not the M16A4s.. :D

[Stalls]

Haha yeah I know, it was a wish list. Like, a year down the line when the Editor gets released haha.


And I know socoms don't use the A4, but if you give the A4 to the assault class, there goes the M203. Just trying to plan ahead DJ, even if you are the master ;) haha

[Stalls]

And who knows what Socoms would really use. I mean, SEALs use the M4, Marine Recon uses it too (various attachments and whatnot) .. but when this says "Spec Ops", it most likely means Marine Spec Ops, which would be Force Recon ... which are badass mother****ers.



Then you got the questionable OICW program and the new XM8 comin out and s hit. Bah. Too many guns.

[Requiem]

And who knows what Socoms would really use. I mean, SEALs use the M4, Marine Recon uses it too (various attachments and whatnot) .. but when this says "Spec Ops", it most likely means Marine Spec Ops, which would be Force Recon ... which are badass mother****ers.



Then you got the questionable OICW program and the new XM8 comin out and s hit. Bah. Too many guns.

Not to mention the M14 Sopmod which may find a home in some groups.

[Stalls]

Haha yeah. All just wish list things. Hopefully someone's mod in the future picks some of them up. There was some BF Nam mod that used the XM8. It was interesting to see it use.


Myself, I hate the XM8. Looks like a toy. Don't know why US hasn't gone to rear loading assault rifles, like the UN has with the FAMAS.

[$G-MONEY SMITH$]

cause its a haslle and tehre called bullpups, america rocks my **** off. :cool:

[_Hazard_]

cause the UN is gay and sucks MEH BALLS!

[$G-MONEY SMITH$]

cause the UN is gay and sucks MEH BALLS!
wooooooooooooooooo :laugh:

[WarPig]

Are there any other servers running this mod?

Need a list.

When i go into the mod and start the multiplayer it lists ALL BF2 servers.
Was hoping it would be mod specific :|

[toffa_h]

Are there any other servers running this mod?

Need a list.

When i go into the mod and start the multiplayer it lists ALL BF2 servers.
Was hoping it would be mod specific :|
same here. you guys whould really make the mod more public. post it on planetbattlefield.com or something! get it out there, people will love it and once they've finally put up some multiplayer server the game can truly begin.

[POWER]

Just wanted to say this mod absolutely friggin rocks! This is the way BF2 should have been all along. SP with this mod is more fun than MP w/o it. It just breathed new life into my SP game. I can't wait for some solid MP servers with the mod running.

So very sweet.

[Devil_Inside]

I do like this mod very much. When I first started BF2 (original) I was really angry. I like MachineGuns and the way LMG was done in the game was.... not right. It was easier to shot an enemy with a pistol from a distance of 100-200 meters, than with short MG bursts, and that's ********. Single mg shot can be compared to rifle shot, it's almost the same. This mod solved the problem, it also solved the problem with sniper rifles (Yeah, I like single-shot kills (I don't know why, but i dont see reload animation after each shot (m24) if i'm using the scope, i heard it was fixed in 2.8b, but it's not (And i heard that double zoom on sniper rifle was fixed to a single zoom, but it doesnt work for me too))).

Now... what's bad (imho).

I really dont like that The Kits were changed.
Why do engineer or assault should have some c4 in the kit? SpecOps is the class to destroy buildings, bridges... That's the idea. Medic must heal, Sniper must kill.
I think ALL the classes except AT (decrease ammo for the launcher) should be left intact because the ballance between the classes in the original game was almost perfect(imho).
Next. (Sorry, i just want the game to be as good as possible)
I didn't really understand and liked all those things with ammo types in tanks and "AA". What's the difference between them? Where do i know what type is currently loaded. I noticed too many bugs concerning this issue:
1. After i shoot, i can imidiatelly change ammo type and shoot again, that ain't right. The loading of both ammo types is going on at the same time so if You wait for 5-10 second You'll have both ammo types loaded and You'll get the possibility to fire twice.
2. When I use "F" key (cycle weapons key) to change my ammo type it's ok. When I press "1" - it changes to the first ammo type (MG to 5 burst). When I Press "2" - it changes to the second ammo type (MG to 5 burst). If I press "2" again, MG changes to full auto (cycles between 5burst and fullauto). If I press "1" multiple times, MG doesnt cycle, it remains at 5burst. So the only mode to cycle through MG firing modes is by pressing "2".
3. Pressing "1" or "2" cycles through ammo types but there is no images for those ammo types, so there appear just white rectangles in place of weapon images.
4. There is no indicator to show the MG firing mode. I can't see if it's 5 burst or full auto.
Why do we need special firing modes? We need some firing modes to reduce recoil and get better control of the weapon. But why do we need firing modes on vehicles. All the mg on vehicles are mounted. The recoil is reduced to minimum.
So... I propose to remove vehicle MG firing modes and different ammo types.
Yes, it sounds bad. Yes, I understand that it was allready done, author spent not a single day coding it (Thanks again for a good mod), but it complicates the game.

Some other mini changes i would like to see:
1. Reduce a bit sniper rifle accuracy.
2. Increace a bit heli's and tank's armor.
3. Reduce AT launcher ammo (to 2-3).
4. SpecOps c4 deploys in a "full-auto" mode (press and hold left mouse button to throw all the c4 explosives You have). Needs a fix.

So. The conclusion is:
I would be very glad if:
1. All the classes would be left intact (no weapon/gadget changing...).
2. "Mini-Changes" listed above would be made.
3. Vehicles MG Firing Mode removed.
4. Vehicle Ammo Type removed.

Of course some would say that that's not that realistic, but wait... i think we wont get a "real-life" simulator adding ammo types for tanks. Not everything that can be changed must be changed. Why then there is no ammo types for rifles, handguns? Different mine types (there are hundreds of them)? Why we cant lean left-right? Use air-bombing support? How can an engineer repair a tank (or a bridge) with a wrench? How can a human body resist 9-12 defibrillator "healings". There are hundreds and thousand of little things that stop the game to become "the most realistic one".

With true respect to the authot of the mod.
Thank for the attention and sorry for a big post.

[CXZAR]

Djuice, what else do u have planned for your mod?

[_Hazard_]

is he dead?

[Djuice]

heheh, im not dead!!! im never dead!, mwahahahh!

Just been very busy, hopefully the next version should be out in a few days..

[toffa_h]

hey djuice, do you take our suggestions into consideration or would you rather we just shut up? :P because i'm sure we could all post hundreds of suggestion of things to add or to remove, but if you don't really take them into consideration why bother, right? so just tell us if we're getting on your nerves ;) .

there are a few things i suggest you alter. for one the sniper rifle and the support class are overpowered. one is the most accurate the other the most powerful. why choose any other class? you need to change the mod so that people will have reasons to choose classes other than the sniper or the support. for example, make the support class really slow (carrying a machinegun must weigh a lot) and the sniper rifle less powerful or the player much more vulnerable (less body armor, less shots to kill, maybe more damage from falling from slight heights?). also, make all weapons A LOT less accurate when standing as opposed to prone position. as much as i enjoy the added precision and power of the BF2 weapons, it's a tad too much.

apparently the body armor the american soldiers in iraq use can resist several rifle rounds to the chest without being hurt (just bruised). in the realism mod a couple of bullets to the chest will kill a soldiers, so maybe this damage should be toned down a bit. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interceptor_body_armor)

another thing i think should be changed is the fact that only one anti-tank rocket is required to destroy most vehicles. give the AT one or two rockets, no more, and make them slower.

one thing i'd like to see added is a game mode where each soldier only has about four lives (or more, or less). this would make the game more realistic in the sense that players would value their lives more and thus behave more realistically, laying prone more often, etc.

and how about night maps?

[Djuice]

bump, check first post :D

[big_sammy_b]

Well if your going to reduce the number of 'lives' then perhaps you could get rid of respawning altogether and make the rounds shorter.

In AA when your dead your dead..

In fact i think if people want to make a realism mod then they need look no further than the game 'Americas Army' for most of the things to change like how easily you die, bullet drop, breathing when aiming etc

[imported_Jammydodger]

Yeah I liked the breathing when aiming in AA.
Didnt like the gameplay much tho.

[Garrison0586]

In fact i think if people want to make a realism mod then they need look no further than the game 'Americas Army' for most of the things to change like how easily you die, bullet drop, breathing when aiming etc
There is NO tactical play in that game... Its all RUNNING GUNNING and BUNNYHOPPING

[Djuice]

some aspect of AA is good, but most of it sucked.

[CXZAR]

THANK's A LOT!! Djuice!!! u and frosty serously make some really nice additions everytime ;) i love these mods, both are my favorite man!!!

by the way guys, has anyone found a way to make the AI choose the unlocked weapons too?

[imported_Apache]

This is incredible! I've only done singleplayer and it is already more fun then vanilla multiplayer! Multiplayer will be so awesome, are there any servers up?

[Cerro]

This is incredible! I've only done singleplayer and it is already more fun then vanilla multiplayer! Multiplayer will be so awesome, are there any servers up?
Glad you liked it.
You didn't read much of this thread, right?
The answer is one page back in huge red letters.
If you're lucky you might get in on D3lux3s server.

[imported_Apache]

Glad you liked it.
You didn't read much of this thread, right?
The answer is one page back in huge red letters.
If you're lucky you might get in on D3lux3s server.


No I suppose I didn't, silly me ;) I'l go check that out, I can't wait!

[Cerro]

No I suppose I didn't, silly me ;) I'l go check that out, I can't wait!
If you get in on D3lux3s server please post in here. We're trying to figure out why some people get ctd and others don't

[imported_Apache]

Hmm I must be missing something, I am looking on pages 9 and 8 but I don't see any big red text or any server listings other then Davis's server

[_Hazard_]

There is NO tactical play in that game... Its all RUNNING GUNNING and BUNNYHOPPING
:rolleyes:
join a clan, problem solved
smae thing with BF2, sure some people try to play tactically but its mostly bunnyhopping and running and gunning.

thats goes for pretty much all FPS

[CXZAR]

Glad you liked it.
You didn't read much of this thread, right?
The answer is one page back in huge red letters.
If you're lucky you might get in on D3lux3s server.

actually u are kind of Lost, the big red letters that u are saying are in the OTHER thread from the OTHER realism mod (BFE)

here it is

http://forums.totalbf2.com/showthread.php?t=20246&page=12&pp=20

and here's to be more spececific :P
http://forums.totalbf2.com/showpost.php?p=258273&postcount=231

[RawDawg.ColdHeat]

First of all, nice mod. I've been enjoying the different flavor. Now, onto some input...

There is no unlockable items in SP for some strange reason, Blame EA/DICE for not implementing unlockable weapon in SP. This is of course if you patched the game.

Actually, yes you can use unlockables in Single Player. If this hasn't been addressed already, I'll explain how to use the alternate weapons in Single Player for those who don't know how.

To enable the use of the alternate weapon kits in Single Player (only), open python/bf2/stats/unlock.py in a text editor (such as WordPad). Find the line which looks like this:

defaultUnlocks = [0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0]

And change it to look like this:

defaultUnlocks = [1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1]

Not hard at all, eh? Now...

if you are so desperate to use the M95 Barrett, open the file objects_realism, go to kits, choose team and then select the sniper.con file, edit the line ObjectTemplate.addTemplate USRIF_M24

and replace it with ObjectTemplate.addTemplate ussni_m95_barret, save the file and then load the game either with a shortcut or my batch file.

I've got a question (and I'm surprised it hasn't come up yet). Whenever I alter something inside the x:\Battlefield 2\mods\bf2_realism\Objects_realism.zip, the game crashes when loading a level to play. There has to be more involved than what you stated, because I crash upon loading a map whenever I change stuff, and I don't crash when I re-overwrite the newly changed .zip with your original again.

I've been wanting to tinker with the weapon loadouts, but it crashes when any changes are made. What needs to be done to make the personal preferences usable?

Note: I only intend to play Single Player with the changes, so (why) is it checking versions?

To further elaborate, I want to use the default weapon loadout (like regular BF2), but I want to add some small adjustments here and there - Give more classes smoke grenades, remove the C4 capabilities from anyone BUT SpecOps, etc etc. Little things like that.

Is there a limit to how much equipment a soldier can have?

Slot 1: Knife
Slot 2: Pistol
Slot 3: Rifle
Slot 4: Grenades/ M203/ AT Rocket
Slot 5: Class-specific (AT-Mine/ Claymore/ C4/ Medkit/ Ammokit/ Smoke Grenade)
Slot 6: Class-specific (Defibrillator/ Wrench)
Slot 7: <Additional item of choice??>

I know how & where to change the .con files, and you stated how to change weapon loadouts in the above quote. But it crashes when I load a map if it's anything but your original Objects_realism.zip. I know it's this, because it (obviously) doesn't crash when I replace my edited (and crashariffic version) with your original Objects_realism.zip.

Suggestions? Thanks ahead of time, and good job on the mod. I dig it so far =P

Also, anyone know any links for some modding tutorials (along the lines of this mod)? Nothing too heavy, just some Textpad tweaks for sake of experimentation. I'm interested in doing some little things with this (already made) mod for my own personal use, like mentioned above.

EDIT: I love how fast the buggies are XD

[excentriker.de]

Hey RawDawg.ColdHeat, what version of BF2 do you run, maybe 1.0 ?

[RawDawg.ColdHeat]

Hey RawDawg.ColdHeat, what version of BF2 do you run, maybe 1.0 ?

Ah, true. Didn't think of that. I've been on 56k for the last month or so between a change in residence, so I hadn't bothered to patch up BF2 (lol56klol). So it's the BF2 version change, eh? Looks like I'll have to patch up @ my buddy's house :O

EDIT: BF2 version hasn't seemed to affect Djuice's mod, only when I attempt to alter his files o_O Why would the BF2 version affect my own changes, but not Djuice's mod?

[WarPig]

Is 3.0 for both client and server??

[toffa_h]

so where are the update changes? what have you changed from 2.8 to 3.0?

[Sir. OMF]

Ok, I am just wondering why from 2.8-3.0 the Spec Ops got neutered?

I like the new sounds, but one thing that has been bothering me is that the Bots seem to have super aim in single player. Tanks shooting down moving choppers from the otherside of the map with an unguided weapon is a little much. I have even seen the shoots hook left or right and that seems a little unrealistic. Also bot attack chopper pilots seem to never miss when shooting at a tank with rockets.

Also, can the Bots be made to use the secondary weapon in the #2 seat in the Cobra? All they ever use is the gun.

[alkajazz]

Is there servers running this mod?!?!?!?!

[toffa_h]

i don't like 3.0. i don't know if you made the weapons so realistic that it seems unrealistic or what you did, because i can shoot at a guy 6 times (given, it's from a large distance) without killing him. this while lying prone and completely still. i don't know if this inaccuracy or lack of power of the rifles is realistic or whether you've gone and made the mod a bit unrealistic again.

[Djuice]

Sorry, ive been very busy, just to let you all know, i am no longer updating this mod.. Sorry to all those people, who love this mod, its just that im working for a mod group, and im extremely busy.

[toffa_h]

noooooooooo! not you too! are you working with frosty on that new mod?

[Djuice]

lol, ive been working for PR for the last 2-3weeks.

[toffa_h]

okay, nice. basically that mod will have the same changes that you've done in your mod, plus a lot more coding as well as new models, am i right? how far along is it? when can we expect a release of the mini-mod (will it be just like your 3.0 mod or what else can we expect?) and a public beta release of the PR?

[Mr_47]

how to mix 2 mod,,, such as realism2.8 mod + coop2.0 mod? so that they can run as one.


i do install them ,,,,, but both mod runs separately.

[Arendel]

I love this mod.. except.. As an epilectic, and victim of parkinsons.. My aiming is bad enought.. I really need those cross hairs. Is their away to get them back for single player?
And please dont laugh or go at me about the noob or pwnd leet speek... It could happen to you.. :(

[excentriker.de]

Hi, its not so easy, you have to edit every weapons-tweakfile.

for the M16:
Objects_realism.zip -> \Weapons\Handheld\usrif_m16a2\usrif_m16a2.tweak

change line 15

ObjectTemplate.weaponHud.guiIndex 0

to

ObjectTemplate.weaponHud.guiIndex 4

[Djuice]

weeee :P

For Crosshair version, download these and replace the existing files in the folder :P

http://files.filefront.com/menu_thingy/;4050772;;/fileinfo.html
http://files.filefront.com/Crosshair_file/;4050681;;/fileinfo.html

[imported_DMXSNOW]

Is it me or is there no sound when the C4 blows up?

[Happy]

Even though I activate the mod when I start a game it isn't the mod that I play.Anyone know what I am doing wrong?

[jdrou]

Even though I activate the mod when I start a game it isn't the mod that I play.Anyone know what I am doing wrong?
How do you "activate" it? Don't waste your time with the game's useless "mod activation" feature. You are supposed to run it with the bf2_realism.bat file provided (or make a new shortcut with the same command-line that's in the batch file). And you may want to look at the Project Reality mini-mod (PRMM) that Djuice joined when he stopped working on this one.

[Happy]

Now I get a shaders/staticemesh.fx not found error.

[jdrou]

Now I get a shaders/staticemesh.fx not found error.
Do you have objects_realism.zip in mods\bf2_realism? Did you run the bf2_realism_setup.bat in the levels folder?

[Happy]

Where do I get objects_realism.zip from?

[jdrou]

Where do I get objects_realism.zip from?
It's part of the mod. When you unzip the downloaded file into your battlefield 2\mods folder it will create bf2_realism. objects_realism.zip should be one of the files in that folder.

[Happy]

I see it now and yes it is there.

[Happy]

It says check work directories and sync my shaders.

[Happy]

Djuice I saw you were a coder for Project Reality. That is the best mod ever.

[IRC 121]

Does this work with patch 1.03?-Noob, Mo.

[ZekeMan]

NICE ONE!
I love the claymores.
U can throw them 30m. They are uber-l33t.
The zoom factors are great.

I love this mod. :eek:

Throwing Claymores? What type of wigged out mod is this?