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atarigod2600
07-20-2005, 12:26 AM
I think it would be a cool idea. I just made a little loading screen for it take a look.
http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/9843/wtf1copy0kp.th.jpg (http://img11.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wtf1copy0kp.jpg)

S_t_a_l_i_n
07-20-2005, 12:29 AM
great, except u forgot how laggy it will be if it were really made!!, and heck, i would crash a J-10 into the empire building just to piss some ppl off :p

blokie
07-20-2005, 12:33 AM
that would be the only down side to this - crashing planes into new york might be hit a little close to home for some people

nice screen though

atarigod2600
07-20-2005, 12:36 AM
Thanks

A$$a$$ination
07-20-2005, 12:37 AM
Not Bad, but you would have to find some way to accomodate land vehicles getting to each area.

Foxtrot
07-20-2005, 12:38 AM
great, except u forgot how laggy it will be if it were really made!!, and heck, i would crash a J-10 into the empire building just to piss some ppl off :p
Ya, *******s like this guy would ruin the map.

atarigod2600
07-20-2005, 12:39 AM
I didn't wanna put bridges I figured it would be heavily water based.. a lot of boat fighting and boats are the way around but the US has aircraft and China has the port control for the most part.. if you read the map briefing it's all in there

Coderedpl
07-20-2005, 12:39 AM
Thats an awesome idea!!!
Except thats my CITY!!!!!!!!!

imported_Fusion
07-20-2005, 12:40 AM
crashing planes into new york might be hit a little close to home for some people


Are you serious? :|:

Ace101
07-20-2005, 12:40 AM
looks awesome. Hopefully some1 can do it :D

Foxtrot
07-20-2005, 12:42 AM
Are you serious? :|:
I would like to see a map in London, where the MEC objective is to plant bombs on buses and subways, the team that wins is the one that kills the most civilians.

SPARTACUS
07-20-2005, 12:43 AM
That is a good idea. I personally would love to see a map based on Washington DC. I create my own server and use every weapon in the game to shoot at the place where the House of Representatives and Senate (aka thieves) sit. It would just be personally satisfying to get back at those (in virtual reality) who are taking our freedom away. (I am a proud U.S citizen by the way) I just want the Constitution to be followed and not trampled on by our exsisting government.

S_t_a_l_i_n
07-20-2005, 12:45 AM
I would like to see a map in London, where the MEC objective is to plant bombs on buses and subways, the team that wins is the one that kills the most civilians.

ur a very sick person indeed, this is not GTA my friend.....

imported_Fusion
07-20-2005, 12:45 AM
I would like to see a map in London, where the MEC objective is to plant bombs on buses and subways, the team that wins is the one that kills the most civilians.

Yeah, sounds cool. Am I supposed to be offended by that? I don't care what the objective/theme is. It's not REAL.

Damn we're playing a war game.. But wait, millions of civilians died there too :( Guess I'll have to return my game and play a safer game, like Gran Turismo.

dragon159753
07-20-2005, 12:51 AM
Problem for that new york one is that china would attack from the pacific.....not the atlantic.........otherwise, lovely plan.....however could we move more into the suburban areas.....like the MEC has landed and yada yada.....

Dr.D
07-20-2005, 12:52 AM
Better to use a fictious city

S_t_a_l_i_n
07-20-2005, 12:53 AM
Use the city of South Park, then everyone will be happy, except maybe for the producers of South Park.....

atarigod2600
07-20-2005, 12:54 AM
Ha I guess so, but I mean if you read the thing I wrote it says the nuclear was over.. so I mean it's not going for real life type of ideas here

PsychoSnowMan
07-20-2005, 01:13 AM
That'd be a fun map, you never get to play in America in most war games. Where would it be set though?
Since we're really dependent on imported goods you'd want to take out our shipping infrastructure. That would make it logical to have a map in Seattle, (Is San Francisco a big shipping area?), or New York.
Then power would be a big target, so you'd want to take out nuclear plants, dams and coal power plants. An attack on a power relay station might be a fun setting.
Even though commercial aircraft would probably be grounded they could still be used to base millitary aircraft and supply aircraft out of. Especially if some AA was moved in. So airports would be a target, Dallas Fort Worth, Chicago O'Hare, etc.
Military bases would be a really big target, along with government facilites, and attacking major cities could really screw up our infrastructure, utilities, and services like cell phones. Major cities is where you start getting laggy maps though.
Although it's all hypothetical of course, because as soon as someone were to attack they'd just get nuked, Britain, France, Germany, Canada, etc. would be there to crush any country that attacked too. And a ground invasion would not make much sense except in areas like DC where you might want to capture a specific target alive.
The real way to get at the US is to go after our resources, raise prices on oil supply and all the other goods we import.

Wranger4400
07-20-2005, 01:14 AM
All of those buildings would lag the game beyond belief. Sorry dude.

PsychoSnowMan
07-20-2005, 01:20 AM
Not really, alot of them could unless they were scaled down dramatically, but places like power plants and military bases could be done.

hbandsc
07-20-2005, 01:47 AM
Another possibility would be a map taking place at the Los Angeles harbor with a Chinese aircraft carrier off the coast. A harbor could be a good place for a battle if done right.

NYC
07-20-2005, 01:54 AM
I'd play New York, just as long as I dont have to go to Newark, NJ.

FoScrilla
07-20-2005, 01:57 AM
im really thinking if they did a 16 man map of a big jumbo jet hijacked by MEC that would be sweet

PsychoSnowMan
07-20-2005, 01:59 AM
The things with ports is they're just those big dock cranes along the shoreline of a city, so there are skyscrapers less than a mile away and around the dock you have tons of businesses. If you decide to cut those out because of lag it will look really fake. One alternative is to place them outside of the playing area and make them really low quality.

UrbanMarine
07-20-2005, 02:08 AM
Strike In L.A. The only downside to that would be the traffic and lack of visibility.

zrulli
07-20-2005, 02:10 AM
^ lol on the one above :laugh:.
I say a US map would be cool. But how about a farm field not a Very Large city.Laggggggggg and that terroist thing would also play in. Mabe a really good modder could pull this off.

dmonkey
07-20-2005, 02:17 AM
The MEC isn't terrorist! Since when were all muslim nations terrorist states?

FoScrilla
07-20-2005, 02:20 AM
The MEC isn't terrorist! Since when were all muslim nations terrorist states?

would you rather the chinese hijack a plane??

downthesun
07-20-2005, 02:26 AM
New York is the worst possible place to choose for a map. Not only would it be laggy as hell, but 9/11 doesn't sit well with anyone that I know. Especially those who live in NY, like myself.

PsychoSnowMan
07-20-2005, 02:27 AM
An entirely interior map in a non-brush based game? That's just asking for buggy movement and clipping issues. GC had a couple that worked though in BF1942.
What else would be cool is a map where there's a big airplane that flies slowly from South to North along a long and narrow map. Chinese/MEC airbase at the south and a USMC airbase at the north, jets from the north take off and try to guard the plane, jets from the south take off and try to take it down.
There were several maps in BF1942 that show how this could be done, the deciding thing would be whether spawn points can be linked to vehicles/objects in BF2.

}GC{blastokid
07-20-2005, 02:28 AM
This would be impossible, unless it was REALLY REALLY low qual textures. NYC is just too damn big to make a map like u just showed there. If you've been there, you would see.

PsychoSnowMan
07-20-2005, 02:37 AM
The MEC isn't terrorist! Since when were all muslim nations terrorist states?
Since morons started typing.

IVfluids
07-20-2005, 02:39 AM
I jsut want to see a MEC vs China map, why the **** didn't they do that?

lThelChaos
07-20-2005, 02:39 AM
wow, great looking map atari. id love to play that map :D

Reasa
07-20-2005, 03:00 AM
Umm how would China go about getting a base in NYC?

And how would my computer go about not bursting into flames while attempting to load this map?

atarigod2600
07-20-2005, 03:01 AM
Thanks for the comment. The only real hard part was making the font types all the same

imported_Master Shake
07-20-2005, 03:06 AM
Wheres the trailer parks and Dollar General? Lets deal with the real america whats the use of trying to take Newyork....They would be sick of Newyorkers in a few days "Hey you call this taken someone hostage get the F*** out of her, give me dat gun Ill show you how to take a hostage!!"

penguino
07-20-2005, 03:07 AM
they should add a new map set in L.A and add a new game mode. Think if the US put nukes out side of L.A and China invades to destroy them. You can chose the Time limit on the map and China must Blow up the 3 missle silos. China would get a carrier to start on and there would be plenty of Space for vehilces because L.A has huge streets. Also you could blow up over passes just like you blow up bridges.

Hephaistion
07-20-2005, 03:09 AM
You could have a gunfight on 42nd St! Sounds like a Christmas movie to me.

ohwell26
07-20-2005, 03:11 AM
I think it would be more realistic, fun, and easy to make, if there was a map where China attacked Guam, and maybe one with Hawaii too. Plus, as said, a city would be horrendously laggy.

penguino
07-20-2005, 03:14 AM
there is no way that there could be a map set in america. everyone knows good and well that if a forign country conquers a single foot of this country MANY nukes would be flying! I think the same goes for china but hey what do i know :mad:

dmonkey
07-20-2005, 03:21 AM
I'd think America would be wiser about nukes. A chinese general did say that if the Americans were to have a local conflict over Taiwan, nuclear weapons would be used (by the Chinese). Mind you, that is a hot-headed general speaking, not the government.

5150 Joker
07-20-2005, 03:24 AM
I'd think America would be wiser about nukes. A chinese general did say that if the Americans were to have a local conflict over Taiwan, nuclear weapons would be used (by the Chinese). Mind you, that is a hot-headed general speaking, not the government.

Chinese in China are like cockroaches though. If a nuclear war broke out, our relatively small population compared to theirs woudl be wiped out. With their 1 billion+ population they'd creep out of the cracks like cockroaches and reproduce back to healthy numbers.

penguino
07-20-2005, 03:27 AM
LOL thats going to get this post locked out or removed

imported_<GN>John
07-20-2005, 03:28 AM
ur a very sick person indeed, this is not GTA my friend.....

So hes sick and your just fine after that past remark? You would fly a J-10 into a building to piss people off? And hes the sick one? Your one sad little dude.

PsychoSnowMan
07-20-2005, 03:32 AM
penguino that gave my an idea. You could have a missle silo map. Our missle silos are not near populated areas and it could be a spec ops infantry type of map. Each side gets a few cars but it's mainly infantry. Make a missle silo one of the CPs. If it was set out in the midwest it would run really smooth.

penguino
07-20-2005, 03:34 AM
Great idea, have it set in N. Dakota and then halfway through the round canadians would come in and fight with the americans!

BigGuyWhoKills
07-20-2005, 03:52 AM
The reason all these games take place outside of the US is because America is almost impossible to invade.

A naval invasion force wouldn't stand a chance, they would be detected far in advance and destroyed long before they reached mainland.

An invasion from Canada or Mexico would be impossible to pull off in secret as well. Either one of those governments would ask for our aid, and you bet your *** they'd get it.

Think about China, the Middle East, and Europe. All of those are surrounded by other countries, many with less than friendly neighbors. That makes them substantially easier to invade.

A better US target would be an island like Guam or Hawaii, or Alaska.

wutdafeezi
07-20-2005, 03:55 AM
Why are we asking for maps, we got plethora of maps already. What we really need is more game modes.

Reasa
07-20-2005, 03:57 AM
I've said before a map in Alaska would be awesome and would fit the mold of this game nicely.

China invades Alaska with a combination of expeditionary units sent through Russia or paradroped from bases in NK.

The reason: Alaska's valuable oil and fishing resources, to strike fear into America and to boost moral at home.

A snow map would be awesome, but EA would have to make all new textures for uniforms and vehicels and I doubt they'll bother.

penguino
07-20-2005, 03:59 AM
The only problem with that idea is that it says in all the china maps that the UA invaded through russia. For china to invade alaska the us would have to lose all those battles and thats unlikely. I think they should invade hawai and that you should be able to command a small gunboat or destryoer!

ypn
07-20-2005, 04:06 AM
Before I start I'd like to say that yes I am an "overpatriotic american" big troop supporter and all that. However, this is just a game...knowing that I don't have a problem playing as China or MEC. I also wouldn't have a problem if there were some US maps to fight on also. Ok yes we all know that an invasion on America is almost impossible...but let's remember this is a game and an explanation could be made up.

A city map could be possible if it was something like Karkand...we don't need huge sky scrapers...maybe just a port or something. Even a little inwards for some urban fighting like Karkand.

Dr. Bullet
07-20-2005, 04:07 AM
I'm not sure what all the negative comments about a map like this are about. You guys (the negative comment people) don't seem to have a problem with attacking Middle Eastern and Chinese cities. It's a game people...

Look at it this way: people are invading your country, and you, yes you, are fighting to protect it from the evil attacking forces. It's an unlikely occurance, but it could happen.

If anyone equates the events in this GAME to real life and takes the action depicted in it personally, you need to immediately sell your computer, sell your games, and find some other hobby like wood carving or gardening.

penguino
07-20-2005, 04:11 AM
Very well put lad. My sentiments exactly

ShadowWarrior18D
07-20-2005, 04:20 AM
Yeah, sounds cool. Am I supposed to be offended by that? I don't care what the objective/theme is. It's not REAL.

Damn we're playing a war game.. But wait, millions of civilians died there too :( Guess I'll have to return my game and play a safer game, like Gran Turismo.


thats a great idea,whats keeping you? :rolleyes:

bam23
07-20-2005, 04:26 AM
I'd like to see a Coral Sea type map like the one in BF1942, it was added in a patch.

Footshot
07-20-2005, 04:54 AM
Yeah, I'm pretty sure if anyone made a realistic combat game that took place in modern-day US cities congress would be all over it for "it being able to train terrorists" or some stupid ****. It'd be very interesting but I doubt it will happen, unless its like in a desert in Nevada or something.

FoScrilla
07-20-2005, 04:56 AM
I'd like to see a Coral Sea type map like the one in BF1942, it was added in a patch.

i really hated coral sea IMO haha

PunishedOne
07-20-2005, 05:04 AM
It would be an interesting concept.

N2K
07-20-2005, 05:10 AM
or how about a city with a military base close to it? i live in las vegas, and north LV theres an air base, im sure that would be a first target if we were ever attacked from the west coast...but thats just a thought :D

hollowpoint367
07-20-2005, 05:11 AM
How about Capitol Hill? One flag inside the Capitol Building, one at the White House, another in front of, say, the Washington Monument, one at Arlington National, one at the Lincoln Memorial, and one near the National Air and Space Museum, and as a kicker you could put a helo pad on the roof. You could scale it down, and make it like Strike at Karkand. No cities are that size, yet the way it plays out, it makes you think it's a gigantic city.

EDIT: The other option would be having the weather be pissing with rain, and thus, foggy. Same effect as Strike, no lag because of the 'dust storm'.

PS: I still want a snow map.

ohwell26
07-20-2005, 05:19 AM
Before I start I'd like to say that yes I am an "overpatriotic american" big troop supporter and all that. However, this is just a game...knowing that I don't have a problem playing as China or MEC. I also wouldn't have a problem if there were some US maps to fight on also. Ok yes we all know that an invasion on America is almost impossible...but let's remember this is a game and an explanation could be made up.

A city map could be possible if it was something like Karkand...we don't need huge sky scrapers...maybe just a port or something. Even a little inwards for some urban fighting like Karkand.

China is just as impossible to invade...

hollowpoint367
07-20-2005, 05:20 AM
Hong Kong Hong Kong!

Sniper_13
07-20-2005, 05:25 AM
prety good idea. just need to make it one part of NYC way too big

imported_Spork
07-20-2005, 05:41 AM
If we're talking about realism here take a long hard look at the game at present - the United States invading China? A united Middle East with complete monopoly over the largest oil reserves, supplied by the Russians? The American troops would be completely annialated - consider the supply lines for god's sake. Of course a conventional invasion of the United States is laughable, but then so is the existing content.

It seems a little unfair if people are prepared to rampage through Asia if they can't be prepared to see their own homeland invaded - it is after all a game played out on the pixels of a monitor. If people believe a map in the US will foster terrorism, then they should take a look at the fact that this game is about a war between three sovereign nations with nuclear arsenals - which is more dangerous to provoke exactly? China will overtake the US economically and militarily within the next century anyway - so it's not too hard to fit this into the game and still keep a fragment of 'realism'.

From a gameplay perspective it would be great, urban maps much more intense in my opinion and China currently has zero in that department - skipping about mountains can get a little dull.

Sir. AAK625
07-20-2005, 06:23 AM
We need a map where all of our nice Liberal-help-the-illegal-immigrants-and-kill-the-military-ACLU/government-officials are in one building and you can personally slit their dishonest demented throats....

Yeah.

gkrangers
07-20-2005, 06:37 AM
If it were to be done, it would have to be a relatively small map, which retained the general land masses of southern Manhatten and Brooklyn, Liberty Island, etc...but on a very small scale.

It would have to be highly ficticious, and loosely based on NYC.

Elohim
07-20-2005, 06:40 AM
Chinese in China are like cockroaches though. If a nuclear war broke out, our relatively small population compared to theirs woudl be wiped out. With their 1 billion+ population they'd creep out of the cracks like cockroaches and reproduce back to healthy numbers.

Holy god. That is so offensive it's not even funny.

AusVirtualPaul
07-20-2005, 07:15 AM
Ah i would look at it differently... dont be worried about it being your city or that it would never happen...

If it was my city, i would love it, it would be a chance for me to Defend my city..

Kixfox
07-20-2005, 07:20 AM
ur a very sick person indeed, this is not GTA my friend.....


Indeed it isn't, this is reality.

BF2 is reality! :D

This is a good idea, although the town should be a little ruined, like broken house and dirt everywhere.
And MEC/China should do an assault, not America.
America should protect and MEC/China comes from the sea.

Alphaeno
07-20-2005, 07:34 AM
Stop being political *****s! Make a game where you dail a phone number and it detonates a nuke in New York. BEST GAME EVER!

Its just a game...You guys sound like those political bastards that say video games are ruining our youth. I guess they never heard of bad parenting.

hollowpoint367
07-20-2005, 07:37 AM
Indeed it isn't, this is reality.

BF2 is reality! :D

This is a good idea, although the town should be a little ruined, like broken house and dirt everywhere.
And MEC/China should do an assault, not America.
America should protect and MEC/China comes from the sea.

You guys don't understand his post...christ..

Originally, he said he would find it offensive that a map in NY be made. Somebody non-American said soemthing like "Oh why should it matter, etc etc".

So he said "Lets have a subway bombing map", trying to invoke the same feelings he has for something of that nature.

He doesn't WANT either. You guys just took it the wrong way.

zymyo
07-20-2005, 07:43 AM
China now controls the kennedy airport in the 64 player size map, they have 767 airplanes that crash into targets to mass destruct the americans to win!!!

hollowpoint367
07-20-2005, 08:06 AM
China now controls the kennedy airport in the 64 player size map, they have 767 airplanes that crash into targets to mass destruct the americans to win!!!

Or for a China Invasion:

"The US has assaulted the city and taken over all the sweatshops. With Chinese nuclear weapon production and mass-production of toys and trinkets halted, The PLA have been forced to retaliate in full. A large-scale battle is about to take place in the heart of the Chinese empire."

Eurabia
07-20-2005, 08:22 AM
I think it would be a cool idea. I just made a little loading screen for it take a look.
http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/9843/wtf1copy0kp.th.jpg (http://img11.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wtf1copy0kp.jpg)


If you took all the armies on the planet We we would still have more Personal aircraft , Boats, SUVs, automobiles, etc than they would.




Imagine it , some dumb army invades NYC and finds themselves in the middle of 50 story buildings inhabited by the most armed nation in the world.

Yes, I think I do think this is "fun".

Eurabia
07-20-2005, 08:24 AM
Chinese in China are like cockroaches though. If a nuclear war broke out, our relatively small population compared to theirs woudl be wiped out. With their 1 billion+ population they'd creep out of the cracks like cockroaches and reproduce back to healthy numbers.


Thats why we developed the "CHICKEN BOMB". ;)

That being said, Chinese people are sweet, its their goverment that sucks.

And as far as population goes they are facing a huge crisis because they just went through a period where they fined folks for having more than one child.

ie. in about 10 years the Confucist Social Security plan will **** the bed.


The problem facing china is that 3/4 of their population is living in the stone age.


Its funny but Ive noticed that most the people when describing an attack on NYC end up committing suicide. You folks do realize that when you crash into a building the odds of survival or 0.

Might wanna go ask the Japanese about that tactic.

Sir. {RF}TFS
07-20-2005, 08:30 AM
I would like to see a map in London, where the MEC objective is to plant bombs on buses and subways, the team that wins is the one that kills the most civilians.

I think some people need to step back and have a serious think before posting stuff like this . Yes we all like a little joke but in view of recent events I think an Admin should seriously consider deleting this post .... I also find the comments about crashing planes in buildings sick ....

No I'm not a prude or a party pooper but these comments are just extremely unfunny

MeNoPausE
07-20-2005, 08:44 AM
Wow, some of you are fools! Besides being ignorant, racist and heartless some of the comments are just stupid here. I don't think anyone has a problem with battles on US soil but when a map of NYC is brought up and one of the first comments jests about terrorism! Why would anyone joke about the twin towers or the london subway bombs??? Oh, thats right, more ignorant people who are really responsible for the way the world is currently. I can only hope you stay ignorant because to change would probably mean you would have to experience terrorism first hand like I did on 9/11 and I don't wish that on anyone. As far as a map on US soil, that is a good idea, even NYC is a good idea. Maybe the 3 islands/parts could be staten island, statue of liberty island and lower manhatten(wall street). Midtown etc. would lag like crazy and be a bit boring I think. The subway could be incorparated nicely as well as the staten island ferry. Maybe even throw the intrepid into the mix and allow teams to capture it and use it in conjunction with thier own aircraft carrier...

Dangerdog
07-20-2005, 08:53 AM
I think we have to get a half assed working version of the map editor before any of this can take place.

I would go for a "Red Dawn" type map over a huge city (make a school the USMC headquarters and Walmart the China base), even if you broke it down to just a few blocks of a large city like NY and made all the buildings large cubes people would complain about lag, plus with only ladders and stairs to get up it would feel stupid with lots of tall buildings you couldn't go inside.

Nemesis
07-20-2005, 09:05 AM
[QUOTE=Eurabia]If you took all the armies on the planet We we would still have more Personal aircraft , Boats, SUVs, automobiles, etc than they would.QUOTE]

DOH. How dumb are you ?

=ACT=Gen.MaXiMiNuS
07-20-2005, 09:38 AM
Thats an awesome idea!!!
Except thats my CITY!!!!!!!!!


Same here, and planes hitting buildings , not cool.

Tenshi
07-20-2005, 09:42 AM
If you took all the armies on the planet We we would still have more Personal aircraft , Boats, SUVs, automobiles, etc than they would.




Imagine it , some dumb army invades NYC and finds themselves in the middle of 50 story buildings inhabited by the most armed nation in the world.

Yes, I think I do think this is "fun".

LOL, if the army actually gets that far...i think theyre far from *******es.


US in urban combat...hmmmmm good track record.


But you do raise an interesting point. Its a shame computers arent powerful enough to have hundreds of (if fairly unintellegent) NPCs. Itd be great to see angry mobs forming. Maybe one side is responsible for protecting them. Maybe then you could implement things like civilian lockdowns. If you start to lose, the civilians kick off.

It would also be cool if you just arent allowed to kill civilians at all. Unless theyre armed ofcourse.

Elohim
07-20-2005, 10:02 AM
Yet I find It true and Funny at the same time lmao

... I'm going to do my best not to flame you. It really isn't funny. Making a simile about how China and its peoples are like cockroaches isn't funny at all.

Personally, I wouldn't mind a map that took place in America, and I wouldn't mind a map in NYC. I think if you're going to restrict yourself and others due to past events, you might as well not do anything new. There are things I find distasteful though, like JFK Reloaded. New York kind of seems to be a no fly zone when it comes to most entertainment mediums these days even when the context has nothing to do with terrorism or the twin towers. It is possible to do a NYC make tastefully, I doubt most people are heartless enough to make a map with big painted targets on the twin towers. I do kind of find it ironic that people are getting uppity about what's tasteful in a war game, but that's beside the point. I understand that BF2 is not reality, but it is partly based in it.

teadaze
07-20-2005, 10:53 AM
u know I read alot before the game came out that there was gonna be a map for stockholm? and cuz of that I thought the game would have more maps in western citys. kinda sad when its only in eastern citys now :/

Mayhem
07-20-2005, 11:12 AM
Nice map you made there.

But I think some people might find that stressing with planes invovled,

Never the less cool mpa :)

Keith Maniac
07-20-2005, 12:09 PM
Maybe a small urban area, like in Karkand map, of the NYC would be possible? But I doubt that EA would dare to release anything like that in Jesusland these days.

Annihilator
07-20-2005, 12:31 PM
ffs!
its just a damn ****ing game!
London and Twin towes are nothing!
what about how USA kills other country's inocent Citizens, like when they dropped the atomic and the nulear bomb on Hiroshima and Nagasagi (dunno how to spell it.
and how about ww2 in Europe! and Iraq!
and they make mods about Gulf War and Iraq war.

Its just a damn game! if u people are so freaking sensitive, than dont reply or dont play the mod/map.

Remember. Its just a game.

MedicManiac
07-20-2005, 03:16 PM
First of all, just to be realistic (I know BF2 isnt realistic), China would never invade America because they dont really have the technology and that during the Cold War the U.S. wrote up some doctrine stating that in the event of an invasion the invading country would face nuclear annhilation and would be wiped of the face of the planet. Thats probably the only reason the U.S.S.R. never tried to invade America.

ZeroPower
07-20-2005, 03:28 PM
That is a good idea. I personally would love to see a map based on Washington DC. I create my own server and use every weapon in the game to shoot at the place where the House of Representatives and Senate (aka thieves) sit. It would just be personally satisfying to get back at those (in virtual reality) who are taking our freedom away. (I am a proud U.S citizen by the way) I just want the Constitution to be followed and not trampled on by our exsisting government.
word to the wise....its not all bad....dont be a fool that listens to the hype in the worthless media, its all left slanted anyways.

S_t_a_l_i_n
07-20-2005, 03:54 PM
u know why china has a lot of ppl? its cuz back in the days when theres no electricity at night, and nothing else to do, couples decides to go in bed early and hav som boom boom, but too bad most ppl r too poor to afford condoms back then...

Foxtrot
07-20-2005, 06:19 PM
He who dosen't learn from history is doomed to repeat it.
We cannot demiss or deny or avoid what happened if we do so, we are doomed to see the same actions carried out again.
History lessons are for books and the History channel, leave politics out of games.

hollowpoint367
07-20-2005, 06:29 PM
ffs!
its just a damn ****ing game!
London and Twin towes are nothing!
what about how USA kills other country's inocent Citizens, like when they dropped the atomic and the nulear bomb on Hiroshima and Nagasagi (dunno how to spell it.
and how about ww2 in Europe! and Iraq!
and they make mods about Gulf War and Iraq war.

Its just a damn game! if u people are so freaking sensitive, than dont reply or dont play the mod/map.

Remember. Its just a game.

Yeah, have we all forgotten that we played as NAZIS in BF1942?

Loosen up.


On a side note: I Still CANNOT believe how many of you read Foxtrot's post wrong.

Foxtrot: I don't want a map in NY, it'd be too wrong
UKman101: Why, it's just a game, you shouldn't care!
Foxtrot: Ok, then I want a London Subway bombing mission (MIND THE GAP)


In depth analysis: He's being sarcastic god-damnit. 'UKman101' obviously has no idea how tragic 9/11 was, so Foxtrot is trying to relate it to something he can understand. By saying 'subway bombing mission', he is trying to get 'UKman101' to say something like "OMG NO THAT'S SO GAY", in which case he woulda replied "Yea, that's how I feel".

Case closed, enough
"DUDE YOUR SUCH AN ******* THAT'S NOT FUNNY!!!!111one1eleven!".

dBs
07-20-2005, 06:34 PM
I would like to see a map in London, where the MEC objective is to plant bombs on buses and subways, the team that wins is the one that kills the most civilians.

Slight difference in similarity to specific situation =P

StormRavn
07-20-2005, 06:38 PM
hell a sweet us map would be detroit ona 64 player map in the middle of the night oh hell yea

penguino
07-20-2005, 06:44 PM
For all you people thinking that America has the best army in the world right now, it dosent. It has the posibiity to be the best but it dosent need 2. The american army can even beat a bunch of backwater terrorist in iraq. The only thing that would bring the american army up to its full potential is if anoher country INVATED OR NUKED the US. And everyone knows that if that happened the country would be nuked underwater. Even the chineese cant survive 3000 nukes. So before you go givig credit to the US army remenber that there are 5 other countries with larger armies and that technoligy cant win everything. But the us has 3000 times more nukes that any country but russia

Carbon
07-20-2005, 06:49 PM
Stalin,your post about crashing planes in to the Empire State Building,VERY inappropriate.Hit close to home for some like me who's father was in tower 1 of World Trade when it was hit.Luckily he made it out from the 46 floor.Have some class!

Keith Maniac
07-20-2005, 06:53 PM
hell a sweet us map would be detroit ona 64 player map in the middle of the night oh hell yea
..where you could drive with 68' Mustang Fastbacks and listen to MC5 & The Stooges with no particular objective at all?!?!

For ****s & giggles, somebody oughta make a large map FULL of buildings and see how it would run on a 32 player game in BF2 once the editor is out.

and by the way, in a 1984 documentary film Red Dawn, Reds invaded USA with np..

Faint_Uk
07-20-2005, 07:00 PM
Meh.. maybe just do a map in some fictional city in the USA? problem solved

TheBladeRoden
07-20-2005, 07:05 PM
I was planning a map pack in the US once, but without the map editor, I only got as far as the advertisement.

http://students.uww.edu/rodenja10/homefrontsig.gif

imported_Master Shake
07-20-2005, 08:07 PM
I would like to see a couple of things, 1st an all infantry 3 force map in a Mall, China can hold the electronics stores and the Nail joints, MEC can hold the gold kiosks and Victoria Secrets, the US can hold the Food court and Spencers Gifts........I would love to open fire into a Ambecrombie and Fitch......

I would also like to see a suburban battle, tanks rolling thru the streets, choppers over head,car alarms going off, sweeping backyards and elementary school playgrounds think that would be cool...

=UAF=Crow
07-20-2005, 08:08 PM
For all you people thinking that America has the best army in the world right now, it dosent. It has the posibiity to be the best but it dosent need 2. The american army can even beat a bunch of backwater terrorist in iraq. The only thing that would bring the american army up to its full potential is if anoher country INVATED OR NUKED the US. And everyone knows that if that happened the country would be nuked underwater. Even the chineese cant survive 3000 nukes. So before you go givig credit to the US army remenber that there are 5 other countries with larger armies and that technoligy cant win everything. But the us has 3000 times more nukes that any country but russia

Acctually, yes we do. We just arent sending most of our troops. :)

zymyo
07-20-2005, 08:15 PM
What about a map like this, a nuclear warhead missile fascility has been captured in USA by China, and now the map has a timer limit... if USA doesnt capture that huge fascility and send the spec ops team in to deactivate the missile red room, you will see it launch with awesome effects and explosions and China wins!!!

=UAF=Crow
07-20-2005, 08:24 PM
Acctually, yes we do. We just arent sending most of our troops. :)

Also we are winning...you just probably watch the media to much.

Please refer to this - http://www.wtv-zone.com/Mary/THISWILLMAKEYOUPROUD.HTML

Too many people see the body count and hear the bad, they dont see that we are acctually winning. Sure we could have already defeated iraq but we havent sent enough troops, plus those 'backwater terrorists' arent just coming from iraq. Those terrorists are coming from all over the middle east to fight in iraq.

MedicManiac
07-20-2005, 08:33 PM
For all you people thinking that America has the best army in the world right now, it dosent. It has the posibiity to be the best but it dosent need 2. The american army can even beat a bunch of backwater terrorist in iraq. The only thing that would bring the american army up to its full potential is if anoher country INVATED OR NUKED the US. And everyone knows that if that happened the country would be nuked underwater. Even the chineese cant survive 3000 nukes. So before you go givig credit to the US army remenber that there are 5 other countries with larger armies and that technoligy cant win everything. But the us has 3000 times more nukes that any country but russia

You dont know anything about war do you.
China may have more people in their military but that doesnt mean s*** b/c the U.S. has the most power Air Force and Navy and Army and Marines. Technology does matter and the reason the insurgents are still attacking is b/c they mingle with the innocent people. If they didnt we would carpet bomb their asses in about 20min. We also have stealth planes (F-117, B-2, and the F/A-22) that cant be detected and can deliver presise strikes. The Chinese (in the event of war) and every other country for that matter would never be able to pick up the those planes on radar before it was to late. Also if anyone invaded America for no apperant reason N.A.T.O. and the U.N. would immediately help and invade the invading country. Plus we would wipe thier sorry asses of the face of the earth with Trident D5 first strike nuclear missiles and a bunch of other nukes we have.

ZeroPower
07-20-2005, 08:52 PM
For all you people thinking that America has the best army in the world right now, it dosent. It has the posibiity to be the best but it dosent need 2. The american army can even beat a bunch of backwater terrorist in iraq. The only thing that would bring the american army up to its full potential is if anoher country INVATED OR NUKED the US. And everyone knows that if that happened the country would be nuked underwater. Even the chineese cant survive 3000 nukes. So before you go givig credit to the US army remenber that there are 5 other countries with larger armies and that technoligy cant win everything. But the us has 3000 times more nukes that any country but russia
you obviously don't know much about how terrorism works and the environment in Iraq or any society for that matter. If the US Military didnt have its hands tied due to sensitive politics, HELL YES, the terrorists would be more easily rooted out and more easily anniahlated. (at the same time the press will gloat about atrocities and "war crimes" and nazism describing the us military) Mosques, schools, any place that is "off limits" are routinely used as hiding places and storage facilities for terrorists. Think of how easy it is to go to your hiding place that you and your friends use to plot against authority, make a bomb, IED, or simply grab an assult rifle, and walk near a checkpoint, or a marketplace, or a mall, or anywhere and simply wreak havoc and return back to your normally scheduled lives. That is what we are all facing against terror, it sucks, and i sure dont want to live like an Israeli one day due to overobsessive Political Correctness and liberalism. Next time u want to put down the United States Armed forces as being ineffective, think long and hard about it, educate yourself if u must, cause history and facts dont change. class dismissed son. ;)

dmonkey
07-20-2005, 08:54 PM
I think nukes are out of the question, but ironically, I would worry more about America suddenly invading some other country than the opposite situation. Anyway, China and America are far from war, the Chinese depend on the trade, and the US, well we wouldn't want 50 dollar shirts from Wal-mart would we.

ZeroPower
07-20-2005, 09:06 PM
china would be on the verge of collapse if it didnt embrace capitalism in its industrial zone. It needs the US to survive, which is ironic.

KHAN
07-20-2005, 09:13 PM
thats a great idea,whats keeping you? :rolleyes:

Thought you were quitting because of EA's programming?

Kukov
07-20-2005, 09:17 PM
So what I'm hearing is...

You're all okay with running around fighting wars in desert and jungle climates where human beings live, but when it's in an American city, there are all kinds of ethical issues?!?

Get over yourselves.

Pvt.Caboose
07-20-2005, 09:21 PM
The reason all these games take place outside of the US is because America is almost impossible to invade.

A naval invasion force wouldn't stand a chance, they would be detected far in advance and destroyed long before they reached mainland.

An invasion from Canada or Mexico would be impossible to pull off in secret as well. Either one of those governments would ask for our aid, and you bet your *** they'd get it.

Think about China, the Middle East, and Europe. All of those are surrounded by other countries, many with less than friendly neighbors. That makes them substantially easier to invade.

A better US target would be an island like Guam or Hawaii, or Alaska.

LoL why would you want to invade Alaska.

faithninja
07-20-2005, 09:25 PM
nice 1 u should send soem to ea try to get them to put them into thet next patch lol :)

dmonkey
07-20-2005, 09:29 PM
So what I'm hearing is...

You're all okay with running around fighting wars in desert and jungle climates where human beings live, but when it's in an American city, there are all kinds of ethical issues?!?

Get over yourselves.

So true, I certainly agree.

faithninja
07-20-2005, 09:33 PM
i think nukes are cool :)

atarigod2600
07-20-2005, 11:42 PM
I think your all kinda looking to far into this.. I mean it's a game..

C11.Nemisis
07-20-2005, 11:45 PM
that would be a great map

sturmvogel
07-20-2005, 11:47 PM
great, except u forgot how laggy it will be if it were really made!!, and heck, i would crash a J-10 into the empire building just to piss some ppl off :p


OMG! YOU'RE SUCH A REBEL!!! :rolleyes:

GameWizard
07-20-2005, 11:55 PM
Closed due to controversial discussion.

exocet
07-21-2005, 01:42 AM
china would be on the verge of collapse if it didnt embrace capitalism in its industrial zone. It needs the US to survive, which is ironic.
Well actually I'm pretty sure Australia is China's biggest trading partner - yours is Canada, but hey think what you want.