[release] Frosty's realism mod - BF:E v.05

[Frosty289]

Frosty's Realism mod (Now Battlefield Experience BF:E)

New Parachute (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v82/Frosty288/parachute.jpg)
M16/M203 Alteration (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v82/Frosty288/m203clip.jpg)
M16 Alteration (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v82/Frosty288/m16clip.jpg)
M4 Alteration (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v82/Frosty288/m4.jpg)
M1A2 Tank Alteration (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v82/Frosty288/m1a2tank.jpg)

US Pilot (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v82/Frosty288/USMCPilot.jpg)
MEC Pilot (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v82/Frosty288/MECpilot.jpg)
CH Pilot (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v82/Frosty288/chinesepilot.jpg)

Credits:
WCP for blood effect
BFEE for mod folder
Garrison for getting the sounds to play right :D

Download .05 here (http://www.foftp.info/~garrison/bfe.zip)

version 0.01

- Changed US and MEC weapons to real life velocity
- Changed US and MEC weapons recoil to be more realistic
- Changed US and MEC weapons damages to be more realistic
- Decreased jump height
- Added manual reload to M1 tank (auto-reload cancels)
- Increased M1 hit points
- Increased M1 projectile damage, reduced impact shock
- Increased M1 acceleration time, increased time between gear changes
- Decreased T90 hit points
- Increased T90 projectile velocity
- Decreased mass of RHIB’s
- Removed rotor blur from H-60 and AH-1
- Increased time of smoke effect after Missiles and Tank rounds
- Decreased C4 damage and explosion impact
- Increased AT mine life and damage
- Increased claymore trigger cone, decreased explosion force


version 0.02

- Increased mass of players
- Increased jump height from previous version
- Increased sprint time
- Increased stamina regeneration time
- Added 5 hit points to “Heavy Player Class”
- Changed player deceleration time to simulate inertia
- Removed parachutes from all but special forces kit
- Tweaked performance of parachutes
- Changed Chinese weapons to Real Life Velocity
- Changed Chinese weapons recoil to be more realistic
- Changed Chinese weapons damages to be more realistic
- Decreased Type95 magazine to 75 rounds
- Decreased RPK-74 magazine to 75 rounds
- Increased volume of guns in 3rd person
- Tank/Aircraft exhaust smoke last longer and generates longer
- Reduce amount of AT ammo carried by AT class
- Increased damage and velocity of AT rockets
- Increased grenade damage but decreased damage area
- Reduced velocity of m203 rounds
- Fixed issue with M1 tank .50 mg recoil in 1st person
- Removed repair and healing ability from supply crates
- Supply crates no longer disappear when they run out of ammo
- Reduced mine damage
- Mines are now triggered by personnel and vehicles


version 0.03

- Added blood effects
- Tweaked bullet hit effects
- Pistol can be used while sprinting
- C4 detonator can be used while sprinting
- Added 3 round burst to MP5
- Added magazines to stationary machineguns
- Increased time vehicle wrecks are left on map
- Reduced velocity of Tunguska cannon rounds
- Increased velocity of Tunguska missiles
- Reduced Tunguska ammo
- Tweaked performance of Tunguska
- Increased time aircraft contrails last
- Reduced hit points on HMMWV
- Increased water tolerance of HMMWV
- Increased max speed and torque of HMMWV
- Increased time between gear changes in HMMWV
- Decreased cupola turn speed on HMMWV
- Increased water tolerance of T90
- Reduced max speed and acceleration for T90
- Reduced cupola turn speed on T90
- Reduce hit points for LAV-25
- Decreased accuracy of Bushmaster 25mm cannon slightly
- Increased Bushmaster 25mm cannon recoil
- Reduced Bushmaster 25mm projectile velocity
- Increased TOW missile velocity
- Reduced turret speed on LAV-25 and M6 Linebacker
- Increased BTR-90 cannon projectile and missile velocity
- Increased gravity modifier for BTR-90
- Reduced max speed and acceleration for BTR-90
- Tweaked in water performance of BTR-90/LAV-25
- Decreased hit points of WZ551
- Increased max speed and torque of WZ551
- Decreased acceleration of WZ551
- Increased hit points of M6
- Increased torque of M6
- Decreased acceleration and turret speed of M6
- Increased velocity of M6 stinger missiles
- Decreased M6 ammo
- Reduce hit points of Type 98
- Increased Type 98 projectile velocity and damage
- Increased gravity modifier of Type 98
- Decreased max speed and acceleration of Type 98
- Decreased turn speed of Type 98
- Increased AH-1Z gun velocity and damage
- AH-1Z gun now penetrates solid and water surfaces
- Added gravity modifiers to AH-1Z rockets
- Tweaked AH-1Z rocket effects
- AH-1Z rockets now fire in full auto
- Increased lift for AH-1Z
- Added 1.85 second delay before exiting fixed wing aircraft
- Increased forward force of parachutes from last version
- Removed ability to heal self in one seat fixed wing aircraft
- Increased strength and flexibility of landing gear for carrier based aircraft
- Tweaked mass and inertia of F35
- Reduced torque and acceleration of F35
- Decreased F35 cannon velocity
- Increased AIM9 velocity
- Decreased acceleration of J-10
- Increased max speed of J-10
- Tweaked inertia of J-10
- Decreased mass and hit points of J-10
- Increased drag of J-10 by 0.01
- Increased J-10 cannon velocity
- Decreased mass and hit points of Mig-29
- Increased drag of Mig-29
- Tweaked inertia of Mig-29
- Decreased Mig-29 cannon velocity
- Increased Mig-29 cannon damage
- Increased max speed and torque of Mig-29
- Decreased acceleration of Mig-29
- Increased mass and hit points of Su-34
- Increased drag and torque of Su-34
- Increased max speed of Su-34
- Decreased acceleration of Su-34
- Increased velocity of KH29 HEDGE TV missiles
- Increased velocity of AA11 Archer missiles
- Increased velocity and damage of Su-34 cannon
- Added gravity modifier to Su-34 cannon
- Increased mass and hit points of F-15
- Increased max speed and torque of F-15
- Decreased acceleration of F-15
- Increased velocity and damage of F-15 cannon
- Added gravity modifier to F-15 cannon
- Increased velocity of AGM65 TV missiles
- Increased mass and drag of F-18
- Increased max speed and torque of F-18
- Decreased acceleration of F-18
- Decreased hit points of F-18
- Tweaked inertia for F-18
- Decreased velocity of F-18 cannon
- Increased damage of F-18 cannon
- Added gravity modifier to F-18 cannon
- Decreased mass and hit points of H-60
- Increased max speed, lift, and torque of H-60
- Increased torque of H-60 tail rotor
- Decreased accuracy of M134
- Increased velocity of M134
- Added gravity modifier to M134


version 0.04

- Fixed SP crash bug
- Optimized mod folder
- Added critical damage system to infantry (bleeding)
- Added laser designator to spec ops
- Gave parachutes to engineers
- Tweaked aircraft inertia values from previous version
- Increased turret and cupola rotation RPM from previous version
- Tweaked player rag doll physics
- Tweaked smoke marker effects
- Tweaked miscellaneous effects


version 0.05

- Added Pilot class
- Reduced bulletproof properties of APC’s and trucks
- Reduced bulletproof properties of aircraft canopy’s
- Reduced acceleration and torque of Vodnik
- Increased acceleration of J-10 from last version
- Increased critical zone for infantry
- Increased mass of rag dolls from last version
- New parachute skin
- Altered M1A2 skin
- Added 3 round burst to Ak101
- Altered M16A2, M16A2/M203 and M4 skins
- Removed decal from US pilot helmet
- Changed most handweapon sounds
- Modified all kits (removed pistol/grenades from most)
- Increased turn speed of helicopter rotor blur
- Added arming delay to M203 Grenades

[battlefield2br]

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[Johnny Bravo]

did u try one of my suggesting?

[Johnny Bravo]

like when its 50% damage smoke comes from tail and starts to spin?

[Frosty289]

forgot about that, sorry m8. I'll try it in the next version. (If I have a next version)

[Djuice]

yo forsty wanna msg me how you got the sounds to work?

hehe great work, i might try this out :P

Still the same recoil?

[$G-MONEY SMITH$]

good stuff i like the sounds, they are awsome!! it would be awsome to use this in multi player on a bf2:E server!! weeeww :D

[Bobton]

Didn't you add the Crouch ability for stationary guns?

EDIT- BTW this mod is fun people, try it out :)

[Speirs^]

If I install this will I still be able to play multiplayer?

[$G-MONEY SMITH$]

yes it works like if it were BF:v you go enable it in the menu, you have to put the bf:e folder in your mods folder.

[Johnny Bravo]

how about humvee like this:
http://www.nukleon.pl/pic/screens/screen82.jpg

with the back of the humvee closed :D

[$G-MONEY SMITH$]

dude this isnt bhd!!! go play that if thats what you want! ;)

[Garrison0586]

like when its 50% damage smoke comes from tail and starts to spin?

If u are referring to the blackhawk... This only should be done if we can simulate location damage. A blackhawk is not going to spin out of control if it starts taking damage to the hull.

We'll look into locational damage on vehicles because I know you can tweak the tail rotor on helicopters. So it might act as a secondary engine.

[Djuice]

garrison check your pms :P

Good work also

[Frosty289]

yeah you can crouch on stationarys, I forgot if I did it for the CH one or not but the other two work I know that.

[Johnny Bravo]

2 suggestions i got 1 like able to carry the wounded 2 slumper down into the humvees's interior after getting shot while on the 50 got these suggestions from Black Hawk Down :D

[-TSF-Gen. Romano]

i wana play this mod so bad but my bf2 doesnt work !@!!!

[Frosty289]

Actually super six three I thought of that idea just earlier this morning before you even posted it. So it'll be in the next version. The ducking in the humvee, carrying wounded soldiers I doubt is possible

[Johnny Bravo]

geat i'll be thinking of other ideas

[SHookPR]

have been adding the mod into the bf2 mod folder but cannot start a dedicated server because no maps are showing up? Did i something wrong?

[NYC]

Are there any multiplayer maps!!?? How are we suppsosed to find them, does anyone have an IP?

[SB NBT]

Can I make a demo with this mod?
I'd like to make some vids with the blood and pilot class. :D

[StormRavn]

w000t w000t

D0WNLOADED!@!@

[jdogg88-Fed]

how about humvee like this:
http://www.nukleon.pl/pic/screens/screen82.jpg

with the back of the humvee closed :D
was that BHD if so what version never seen the HUD like that??

[Johnny Bravo]

that is the xbox version

[Frosty289]

yeah I don't care if you make demos. And people you have to run the levels.bat file for the maps. It's in the mods/bfe/levels folder.

[Johnny Bravo]

where i don't see it

[$G-MONEY SMITH$]

2 suggestions i got 1 like able to carry the wounded 2 slumper down into the humvees's interior after getting shot while on the 50 got these suggestions from Black Hawk Down :D
dude your anoying go do something else or watch a different movie for christ sakes :rolleyes:

[Johnny Bravo]

stop offending other people

[$G-MONEY SMITH$]

o yeah the only things you have mentioned are from black hawk down you need a shrink man your obsessed. :rolleyes:

[imported_Chubz]

It says that you can fire the pistol while sprinting and even use the C4 detonator while sprinting, but neither worked for me... what's going on?

[PsychoSnowMan]

Could you add the ragdoll collapse to all turrets, like it was in BF42 and BFV? As it is it's hard to tell whether someone in a MG/groundD/AirD/roofMG is dead or not from a distance. The body just stands there.

[Frosty289]

I don't quite know what you mean, if you mean when tank gunners slump over when they die, it's already in the game. If you mean something else elaborate :P.

BTW what would you guys think of a 2nd MG on the M1A2 like there's suppose to be? I think I can do it.

http://www.brandonblog.homestead.com/files/blog-1003205747.photo00.jpg

[Johnny Bravo]

yeah i thinkg its good

[imported_Jammydodger]

Yeah 2nd mg on a tank would be interesting to see.

[Frosty289]

I've got it on there working no problem, just the rotation is messed up, and I have yet to find where to add the 2nd cupola model. (with the hatch ect. ect.)

[toXicRabbit]

there's an AA MG and Anti personnel MG on an abrams.

2 mg on the cupola 1 coax and 1 main gun

[MikeAP]

Just wanted to stop by and say that the mod is great.

The new weapon values make for realistic firefights. Bunny hopping kiddies will think twice before crossing the road during a firefight now.

But a few bugs I noticed, which im sure you're aware of.

-Grenade Launchers fire through walls (through buildings, even)
-M4 should have an automatic fire as well as single (not 3 round burst)
-Sandbags have metallic texture
-No audio effects when a loud explosion goes off. Just screen blurr
-Certain textures produce dust paths after soldiers walk. It looks very awkward. The dustis almost too dense.

Some feedback:
-Maybe reducing the sprint just a little bit, or increasing the time it takes to regain stamina.
-Snipers should have extremely limited ammo. Four or five magazines, max.
-Reduce the speed of tanks, as well as traverse rates for tank turrets. In real life they turn much slower.
-For tanks and UAV's letting position 2 control the gunner. Position 1 would simply drive.

Also...

Was wondering if you would be capable of making new models for the game. An RPG for MEC instead of the current AT weapon would be alot more ideal.

Also wondering if you could make optional weapon choices. Would be awesome if a Special Forces soldier could choose between an M4 or an M14 (no scope).

[Annihilator]

-For tanks and UAV's letting position 2 control the gunner. Position 1 would simply drive.


i have 1 thing to say about that.
GAYGAYGAYGAY.
in DCR thats gay, cause nobody wants to get in it when u drive and if they do, they cant aim good and suck!
I almost never see a person get in your tank.
So i think that we should leave that alone.

[Frosty289]

Thanks for the feedback, mike, I like constructive criticism ;)

Yes we know there are some bugs with the mod, and some major ones you've yet to discover :P, and i'm working to resolve them. I'm thinking of releasing another version very soon, possible tommorrow that resolves most of these issues. For the dust effects, I coded them in haste not really paying attention and testing each effect at a time, because there is hundreds of them :). But i'll look into the foot dust effect. As for the sandbags, it's nothing with the mod it's the way BF makes the shaders, sorry but I can't really do much about it :(. What just came through my mind that same second is copy the shaders that BF2 generated and copy/paste over the new ones the game generated on the first time the mod was run.

You can find the original BF2 shaders in:
/My Documents/Battlefield 2/mods/bf2/cache/5395712-97wqetawge (a bunch of stuff)
and copy paste them into the folder you saw coming into the original.

As for the M4, I was directed by Garrison that the more common M4 is that with single fire, and 3 round burst. I'll look into it more. lol and for the grenade launchers, well i'll have to fix them. But for the meantime you can shoot them through people and kill them, I found that entertaining myself :p.

For the tanks..eh I doubt we'll see a gunner/reloader, because to be frank it's more so a single player mod until the mod tools come out, and as the previous poster said most gunners suck anyways, unless you were in a clan or something where you knew the person. And I don't know if I would trust bots with it.

As for the tank turret rates..have you been in the T90 yet?

[MikeAP]

GAYGAYGAYGAY.

Thanks for the feedback.

I for one wouldnt mind having someone manning the guns for me while im driving. The game gets so crazy at times that a single person doesnt stand a chance on his own.

This is a realism mod, right? Or did my eyes decieve me?

to be frank it's more so a single player mod until the mod tools come out

Thanks for the resply Frosty. I hope this day comes sooner than later.

[Frosty289]

Oh hell yeah it's a realism mod, but it's only v.05 :P

[Johnny Bravo]

are you thinking of adding my suggestions? smoke from tail and spins around and the other 2 suggestions?

[imported_Jammydodger]

Keep up the good work Frosty, I can see this mod going places if you do.
Will you be doing anything with weapon ballistics, i.e. bullet fall off.?

Have you got a web site up yet m8?
If not I suggest you get 1 up and get some forums on the go to.

l8r. ;)

[SHookPR]

Oh hell yeah it's a realism mod, but it's only v.05 :P

i would really like to see you and Djuice working for a 3rd. version having the best features of both mods into 1....i hate to have only 1 server to administrate or i could host both mods....its kind of sad to me that i must choose between....i have a deep respect to people doing something instead of bashing about this and that...cheers

[Stalls]

I agree with Shook. I frequent this other BF SP modding board where I first started downloading DJ's mods, which are great. Then I found this and tried frostys, and its really really good too. You guys should team up and start something. Try mixing and matching and whatnot for us unhackers.

[_Hazard_]

PLEASE COMBINE YOUR GOLDLY POWERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
cause im a coding nub and cant do jack sh1t

[Frosty289]

I'm probably going to release .055 out tommorrow with complete sounds/replaced sounds and some bug fixes. Any requests besides those related to BHD post them quick

[_Hazard_]

is it possible to have the weapons unlocked in SP mode?
or did 1.2 screw that bit of fun for us too

[-ChiCken]

How do you install or extract etc., in mods/bf2 ? and if so what do i do after?

[Ghiest]

What I would like is a click out for not being revived, and a 30s revive timer please... almost perfect otherwise.

[Djuice]

errr, Frosty, i request that you make the shotgun shoot 50 flechets >_>

nah j/king :D

[Johnny Bravo]

when you go too high in plane you blackout

[Djuice]

I can tell you one thing, Frosty is gonna make it so when your on 50% hp you would start to smoke up abit, like when your in a vehicle, and then when your on 25% hp your gonna be running around on fire :D

Well thats what he is currently doing right now as of this minute!

[Pvt.Caboose]

when you go too high in plane you blackout
and when you come down to quick you start getting red vision from the blood rushing to your head...

[Johnny Bravo]

I can tell you one thing, Frosty is gonna make it so when your on 50% hp you would start to smoke up abit, like when your in a vehicle, and then when your on 25% hp your gonna be running around on fire :D

Well thats what he is currently doing right now as of this minute!

i think i ment it on the helo...

and you work for Splinter Cellers :laugh: looks like a spy :laugh:

[Djuice]

nono, hes doing them on the soldier models, i was chatting to him on MSN..

[Johnny Bravo]

is it out yet?

[Kurtisb]

I have a suggestion, reduce the M16A2 recoil *-*drasticly*-*.

My mom and dad have both fired an m16 and it has barely *any* recoil... and it should be very accurate...in real life up too 900 metres... but you can scale it down for the game.

Regards,

Kurtis W. B.

[Johnny Bravo]

i have fired a m16 before and it has barely no recoil

[Frosty289]

Yeah I am aware of some issues, but the aiming down the sight recoil I think is fine, because if you look at it, it really isn't much recoil at all, it's just a little bump upwards, but keep in mind all of the recoil is based off of ADS, (aiming down the sight), not just shooting from the hip. I've already talked to djuice about the recoil and I know I do need to work on it. But please understand it took me a really long time to get the recoil like I want it, so i'll have to redo them all for hip shooting and ads shooting to make it relative.

In other news I think I made the most revolutionary improvement to soldier damage systems in any BF series. As you may know, once you get down to 20 hp you bleed, regardless of where you were hit. Well, i've worked on it and have some news.

Body part specific damage bleeding, which I think I have acheived here in the last few minutes. If you get shot in the limbs (arms, lower leg), you won't bleed to death - You get shot in the gut you'll bleed to death, head is instant. Spine shots will have you bleed to death probably too - Keep in mind this has never been done before.

The results I acheived during my test were interesting, you only seemed to bleed 'sometimes', for the time I had only made the bleeding for the arms/legs, sometimes i'd start bleeding, sometimes I wouldn't. So i'm going to have to look into it a little more, but I was very excited.

How I did this is with the materials, and have added a .tweak armor composition for each material related to the human materials. The game already has seperate damage materials for the legs, spine2/3, and the head. Working with ragdolls I can probably assume the central body is made of spine 1, 2, upper thighs - And the head is well the head, along with the limbs. This would mean a shot in spine 2 would make you bleed to death, because that is the area the gut would be, making spine 3 the lungs/heart, you know, bleed to death there too. Tell me your opinions. Keep in mind im doing most of this for testing purposes and the methods I posted above are not what I intend to do. I'm just doing it now to either get results or not.

[Johnny Bravo]

all i can say is bleeding is realism and when is it coming out?

[Frosty289]

It's only been like 2 days since I released .05. I'm going to the gym in a few minutes so I don't know if it will be tonight.

[imported_Jammydodger]

Good idea Frosty sounds sweet m8, not sure if this has been disscused yet or not.
If you get shot in the arm its harder to aim, or if you get shot in the leg it slows you down.
could it be done?

[Johnny Bravo]

time to watch Simpsons :p

[Frosty289]

Jammy I just got back, i've been gone a few hours. But I want to get the bleeding down first - In theory yes you could make them less accurate, or make them run slower but i've got to make sure the bleeding thing works right first.

[Johnny Bravo]

alright i'll be playing SOFII Demo,i need to kill that dude tat keep killing me


EDIT: Hes 0wn3d

[Johnny Bravo]

i feel like i'm gonna puke

[Johnny Bravo]

is it out yet...?

[={SOC}= Sniper]

Do You See It Out? It Isnt Stop Asking Ur Annoying!WOO HOO 99 post!

[Thugnasty4life]

It would be awesome if you could add density and thickness bullet penetration like on counter strike with exit holes. (that was the only thing i liked from CS)

Also does your mod have bullet drop like Djuices mod?

[Djuice]

i think he will implement it

[Johnny Bravo]

what is a bullet drop?

[Djuice]

as projectiles travel further away, gravity makes the projectiles dip... causing the projectiles to fly in a curved trajectory instead of an exact straight line.

[Revek]

( S )_( S ) wow, cool.

[deanoM4]

help i dont no were 2 put it... i put in in eagames/battlefield2/mods
next to the folder 'bf2' then i ran the game, i couldnt see any option to enable the mod and when i tried to play singleplayer. it crashed

this is for retail right?

HELP ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Johnny Bravo]

yes its for retail

[deanoM4]

but is that the file i put it in because when i play the game there is no menu or button for the mod

[Money Fist]

the change log looks great
but im having problems with single player
it crash's to desktop. any idea why anyone?

[Johnny Bravo]

i have total no idea,did you go to your mods\bfe\levels foldier?

[Money Fist]

man, this problems is happening with standard BF2 as well
1.1 & 1.2
multi works fine :?

will make a seperate post about this
i dont wanna spam this place with offtopic crap

[Frosty289]

Wow all the sudden lots of people posted. I'm stll trying to pump out another version...And the only thing I can suggest is reinstalling as it may be an issue with the AI? I don't know I had a crash bug after a few minutes of SP in like .02 but I fixed that when I released it, so i'm not sure. If you can't play SP at all I would just reinstall it.

All of the weapons have had gravity modifiers from v.04 - so yes all the bullets have gravity. I'm going to add minimum/maximum effective ranges in .06. Also I figured out the bulletproof stuff thanks to Djuice <3, so for example smg's won't hurt a vodnik...at all.

[Djuice]

w00t im mentioned! yay!

[Johnny Bravo]

*waits* is it out at Best Buy yet?

[deanoM4]

wat should happen regarding the menu screen? like should there be a button in the single player setup or sutin?

[$G-MONEY SMITH$]

you should make it so you can shoot through the windows on the humvees that would be nice.

[deanoM4]

o i got it now, i had to run the copy levels batch file in the levels folder, and then launch it with the bfe batch file in the main folder

btw great mod fun but harderer

ps. some of the guns look a bit glossy, is that jus me or are they???

[Frosty289]

I guess when you save the texture as DXT5 they turn out glossy, didn't really mean for it to happen.

[Johnny Bravo]

yep :laugh:

[deanoM4]

dont worry frosty, i forgive you :D

[toffa_h]

no offense to you frosty but the mod makes me nauseous :P . you made the players turn much more sluggishly, made recoil too high, the sounds are very laggy... the mod didn't feel tight enough. made me feel a bit ill.

[imported_Jammydodger]

Give the guy a break he's only just started the mod, things take time to reach perfection.

[Johnny Bravo]

so is it done yet?

[$G-MONEY SMITH$]

no offense to you frosty but the mod makes me nauseous :P . you made the players turn much more sluggishly, made recoil too high, the sounds are very laggy... the mod didn't feel tight enough. made me feel a bit ill.
and you can make a better one? :rolleyes:

[Frosty289]

huh, that's the first time i've heard anyone feeling nauseous (sp?). The only thing I changed was the acceleration/decceleration of the players, you can't even change the turning of the player. So far it leads me to believe it's only you - as for the sounds playing slow that must also be you because I have no problems at all on this end, recoil - well it's recoil what do you expect. (btw there isn't that much at all anyways).

[Frosty289]

btw make sure your sound quality is set at high in game, it's default at medium. And if you're using onboard sound and it sounds bad...then get a soundcard.

[Johnny Bravo]

:confused: ???

[imported_Jammydodger]

Super six three, Dont take this in the wrong way but dont half spam these boards. :eek:

[Pedro]

some of the things in this mod were great, others were not... i mean, the recoil? sure, some might think its realistic, but i think its just too much... and why is the recoil the same when lying and standing? oh, and i think you broke the BTR, i mean, i could barely drive up a hill with it... and the T-90, it took like a year to turn the turret around... what else... yeah, the new model for the m16 looks too shiny... otherwise it was great...

[Frosty289]

It's v .05 get used to it.

edit: And the issues you posted are already fixed in .06

[Cirap]

maybe it has something to do with my drivers, but the new weapons look like they are made out of glass or porcelain. They are WAYYYY too shiny!

[Frosty289]

How about you read the thread a little bit.

[Johnny Bravo]

How about you read the thread a little bit.

lol :rofl:

[Cirap]

How about you read the thread a little bit.

ya, I didn't quite have the time to read it all, not even knowing if it's mentioned. By the sound of your thread, there is an explination for this? so I'll just take my time, and read...

EDIT: After playing for some time: Too much recoil. this goes for every weapon. As it is now, it's not realistic (yes, believe me). The M249, it can kill now, which is good, but you can't hit anything, not even in 5-10 rpund bursts.

[Frosty289]

I can...But as you're not the first to complain i'll change it.

Sorry for being rude. I'll repost the explanation for the shinyness here:
In my rush to release .05, I had made some minor alterations to the m16's, m4. It seems if you save the file as DXT5, it makes it sort of reflective, and i'm actually curious to see what the other DXT formats do to it, it'll be fixed in .06. Right now though i'm having problems with my game, I just reformatted and I can't boot any mods, even .05, which as you know works. So im in a bit of a snag.

[imported_Jammydodger]

Hey Frosty have you thought about changing the crosshairs in the game?
coz as it is now is crap imo, maybe give the user a couple of different 1's to choose from?

Just a idea ;)

[Frosty289]

I almost want to remove crosshairs

[MikeAP]

You should

In real life we dont have crosshairs :-)

[Frosty289]

Well I can't check anything but we reworked/renamed the kits, and are getting rid of the ghilie suit for the snipers.

[MikeAP]

How about changing the [Marine Medic] name from 'Medic' to 'Corpsman' ?

Realistic for the Marines

[Frosty289]

way ahead of you mike :P

Rifleman (replaces Spec Op)
M16A2
Frags
Smoke

Grenadier
M16A2/M203
Binoculars

Corpsman
M92F
M16A2

Designated Marksman - Get rid of the damn Ghilie suit
M24
M92
Claymore

Automatic Rifleman
M249 Saw
Frags

Anti Armor
AT Rocket (1)
AT Launcher
Pistol

*all assumed to have knife
*assumed to have special equipment

[MikeAP]

I like the loadouts. Good call replacing the 'special forces'. That was totally lame.

Any chance you can toss in some M16A4 models? <drool>

ALSO.

Whats the status on adding weapons?

Can you add anything or does it have to replace something?

[Johnny Bravo]

when is it coming Frosty?

[$G-MONEY SMITH$]

way ahead of you mike :P

Rifleman (replaces Spec Op)
M16A2
Frags
Smoke

Grenadier
M16A2/M203
Binoculars

Corpsman
M92F
M16A2

Designated Marksman - Get rid of the damn Ghilie suit
M24
M92
Claymore

Automatic Rifleman
M249 Saw
Frags

Anti Armor
AT Rocket (1)
AT Launcher
Pistol

*all assumed to have knife
*assumed to have special equipment
sounds pretty good although i dont see why the anti tank guy gets 1 rocket can you take a tank down with 1 rocket?

[Frosty289]

k I reformatted again, it better work. But to answer the question about the number of rockets, he has 1 rocket, as you can see he carry's one on his back, he's not pulling 5 rockets out of his *** this time.

[Djuice]

haahahh!!! never!

[[WC]ViperMaul]

No ReadMe File for the download?

[deanoM4]

the best kit for this mod is sniper, one shot kills even if its a crap shot.
also is it just me or does their ai seem harder?? im gettin killed so much compared to before this mod and not jus cos the guns are stronger.

check this, some how in Daqing oilfields i got a headshot on me while prone on top of the oil rig thing, the guy was a mec with sum ak, i tried to snipe him and he turned round and headshotted me!!!

[Frosty289]

readme file? lol. Here it is

extract to mods folder

[Frosty289]

Well I havn't changed the AI except add more of them, and yes it is because the guns are stronger because you get shot by the AI and don't even know it sometimes in normal game. :P

In other news, my game decided it was a good time not to work again, so I really don't know what to do now, if reformatting won't fix it, then it's ****ed.

[Djuice]

Nooooo!!!

[Frosty289]

Got the game to work :P, we're going to be removing crosshairs and hopefully get some new stuff in the game.

[deanoM4]

sorry to nag but do u no when bouts .55 or .6 wil b out n also will the grenade + shiny weapon tings b fixed?

also bout da kits, how come only da AT kit has a pistol?? pistols rock cant de others have dem 2?

[Frosty289]

Everything i've read will be fixed.

[deanoM4]

sweet

[Revek]

Make it so suiciding doesnt - points.

[GlobalFear]

What about swapping the ammo of some of the shotguns for slugs? Cross hair would need tweaking too.
If you consider it I can send you the tweak file for the protecta.

thanks again for helping me out with the sounds. ;)

[[WC]ViperMaul]

readme file? lol. Here it is

extract to mods folder

That's good. I figured that out. But you would be suprised how kids do not want to installl unless they have instructions. And I'm sure they have been taught to read the readme.txt. And they may not install for fear of screwing up there main BF2. But are you sure that's all you need to do?

Also however there are no maps after you just "extract to mods folder" as you say. It seems there is at least one more step right? Like "Run the batch file called copylevels.bat from "..\Program Files\EA Games\Battlefield 2\mods\bfe\Levels" directory. so you can play MultiPlayer or Single Player?"
Well all the server showed up as RED meaning you could not play on them.

This is what I had to do. But that is not in your post or your readme.txt.

[Frosty289]

sorry for not being god.

[Johnny Bravo]

lol,what is the status?

[_Hazard_]

hes just trying to help all the nubs, couldnt hurt to edit the first post.
Or it could be a line of defense against nubs who would only complain about the "guns are too accurate!!!one11!"

[Johnny Bravo]

hes just trying to help all the nubs, couldnt hurt to edit the first post.
Or it could be a line of defense against nubs who would only complain about the "guns are too accurate!!!one11!"

Roger that :salute:

[Frosty289]

Well the only thing that's holding us from release is well...the lack of lots of new content, so far it's only fixes, small changes and we're finishing up the sounds, and getting some new skins and stuff. But in the time that we've started we've assembled almost a 'mod team'.

So far we've got:
Frosty - Coder
Garrison - Coder/modeller person who knows stuff
Joe joe - Modeller and dude guy who knows stuff
MikeAP - Sound artist
CXZAR - New skinner to do some work
Sniper - Advisor

BF:E needs a talented vehicle skinner, contact me at frostbite350@hotmail.com

[Merc248]

Frosty.

This is quite the excellent mod.

...

So, are there any servers for this mod? :p

[Frosty289]

Not yet Merc, but we're working on it. .06 should have a lot of improvements over the others, but I don't have any idea the amount of content that will be in it.

[[WTF]Slave]

I just wanted to say frosty i love what your doing, making a realism mod for bf2, its something ive been waiting for since the game came out. The only gripe i have so far is the weapon recoils, they seem to be more then they should be, atleast with the american weapons, those are pretty much the only ones ive fired in real life heh.. other then that, i love the damage system w/ the tanks and everything else, youve done a great job and im looking forward to more from you and your team!

and last are you guys looking for a website ? cause i can throw a layout together for you guys if need be :)

[Frosty289]

Contact me via msn slave :P frostbite350@hotmail.com , i'm trying to give people who play the mod the most support I can and do everything I can. - And keep up with the rest of the team guys too :P, big hugs to them.

[Merc248]

Oh yeah, I'm just curious; since you aren't going to have a special forces class in the next version of the modification, will there be another class that will be carrying satchel packs? Or are you removing that altogether as well?

I like the new changes to the classes, by the way. However, I have a gripe about the anti-tank class: I'm not sure how it is setup in the real Marine Corps, but as far as I know, the person carrying the anti-tank equipment usually holds at least two rounds, with the rest of the team carrying maybe one round. OR, there's a disposable anti-tank weapon along with a rifle. Can you shine any insight on this by any chance?

[_Hazard_]

in the army at least, there is one person with a disposable rocket (at-4) per fireteam. A squad has up to 3 fire teams, Alpha Bravo and Charlie, with 4 people per fireteam +2 advanced marksman with spotters.

I took all above info from the Americas Army Special Forces game :)

[imported_Jammydodger]

Ok here's another Q for you Mr Frosty.

Do you think it would be possible? and would you put? Music into the game like it had in BFV.(when the tools come out) :confused:

I think that was one of BFV best featuers and to have that on a game that looked and played like BF2 I think it would go down a storm.

Would the game engine support it?
What does everyone think?

[Frosty289]

I don't know about the music but I don't think there are any cd players in an M1A2 Abrams. However if you remember some of the EA screenshots they had a rangefinder in the M1A2 Abrams ect. We're hoping to add that back on and maybe on the HUD of the ERYX/SRAW or something of the sort.

[Frosty289]

Ok we got the target rangefinder to work on the M1A2

[Hedgemus]

Rangefinder huh? I don't recall seeing any screen shots with of that, can you post some?

[GlobalFear]

Really simple to enable in the editor.
I'm going to mess with it so I can tweak the effective ranges of the weapons.
I have the M9 set to be 80% to the chest and a kill shot to the head at point blank but anything over that is the same as the original game.A nice reward for players that sneakup on their enemies.

[Frosty289]

also got different ammo types on the abrams, with the correct amount of ammo, working on giving them icons and such - also since a Sabot breaks apart in the air (thanks slave for this info) we'll probably be making it's own effect so you see the sabot split about 50 yards out of the barrel.

[matew1]

Great mod, a few things that should be changed though: M4 is not three round burst, but fully automatic and semi automatic, and no AT mines? Also I love the sound effects, but I forgot which gun (PKM?) the sound ends abruptly, and has no trailing sound effects. Just sounds odd to me.

Great mod.

[Frosty289]

This version was released like 2 weeks ago. Everything's been fixed so don't even come back telling me whats wrong with it come back telling me what to add to it. USMC kit changes

Rifleman (replaces Spec Op)
M16A2
Frags
Smoke

Grenadier
M16A2/M203
Binoculars

Corpsman
M4
92FS

Designated Marksman - Get rid of the damn Ghilie suit
M24
M92
Claymore

Automatic Rifleman
M249 Saw

Anti Armor
M16A2
AT Rocket (1)
AT Launcher
Pistol

*all assumed to have knife
*assumed to have special equipment

[imported_Chubz]

I have another suggestion (I apologize if this has been mentioned already).

Make it so that the pilot is the only kit allowed to operate aircraft. It just doesn't make any sense to have a pilot class available, but still allow any normal troop to suddenly jump into a jet or a helicopter and take off like a pro. I know that it is like this in the game anyways, and I don't have many complaints about it, but at least make the pilot class a little unique! ;)

[={SOC}= Sniper]

Can u change skins? wit the leaked thingy.And give them little towel heads for MEC

[Frosty289]

Chubz I want to do that but I don't think it's possible. And we already have the editor because I was on a mod team that received it. Not that it's much use for coding imo.

[Frosty289]

we release tonight at 10:00pm est, hopefully.

[_Hazard_]

sweet, thats...7here! 2hours woot!

[Garrison0586]

Great mod, a few things that should be changed though: M4 is not three round burst, but fully automatic and semi automatic, and no AT mines? Also I love the sound effects, but I forgot which gun (PKM?) the sound ends abruptly, and has no trailing sound effects. Just sounds odd to me.

Great mod.
There are several variants of the M4 the most common issued to troops would be the 3 Round Burst/Single Shot Configuration. The Automatic version is issued to Special Forces but we have no Spec Ops on the USMC now.

[imported_Chubz]

Chubz I want to do that but I don't think it's possible. And we already have the editor because I was on a mod team that received it. Not that it's much use for coding imo.

Ah, that's no problem man... congrats with the mod anyways, it's great fun.

Can't wait for the release at 10 PM! :cool:

There are several variants of the M4 the most common issued to troops would be the 3 Round Burst/Single Shot Configuration. The Automatic version is issued to Special Forces but we have no Spec Ops on the USMC now.

Speaking of that, isn't the M-16 also supposed to be fully automatic instead of 3-shot burst?

I may be wrong, but on Battlefield Vietnam it was fully auto for sure...

[Frosty289]

completley wrong chubs :) the M16A3 and A4 I think are full auto, and the was the AR-15, not the M16 if i'm correct

[imported_Chubz]

completley wrong chubs :) the M16A3 and A4 I think are full auto, and the was the AR-15, not the M16 if i'm correct

Oh... damnit I suck! :(

Isn't the CAR-15 fully auto? I remember that in BF 'Nam... maybe THAT is what I was thinking of? It looks alot like the M-16 and M-4. :D

[Frosty289]

no idea i've still got stuff to fix and i've got 30 mintues so.

[Merc248]

A4 is semi/burst, A3 is full auto. Both are derivatives of the A2 with Picatinny rails. :x

If you ask me, it'd be a waste of time trying to implement an A4 to replace the A2, because there would be practically no difference at all. I don't know, maybe I'm wrong.

[[WC]ViperMaul]

sorry for not being god.

Don't get me wrong... You have already surpassed God hood with these changes! Thank You. Keep up the GREAT work!!!

[Frosty289]

ok Garrison isn't online to upload this to the FTP so you guys might have to wait a bit longer...:(

[Merc248]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooo

[Frosty289]

don't worry i'm sending it to him now - i'll be creating a new thread for the next version.

[Johnny Bravo]

alirght i'll be on the 50. *Fires the 50. cal*

[IRC 121]

How come I could not find this mdo in the downloads section? I wish the search function worked well.

[jdrou]

How come I could not find this mdo in the downloads section? I wish the search function worked well.
Try this thread instead: http://www.totalbf2.com/forums/showthread.php?t=20246. This hasn't been updated since July. Probably will have some issues with the changes in the last BF2 patch. I'd look into the Project Reality mod if you want realism: http://www.realitymod.com/ .

[IRC 121]

Thank you for helping a noob. Me.