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Laike
08-04-2005, 03:38 PM
BF2 Realism released version 3.0. The new release makes several new changes to vehicles and stationary/infantry equipment.
Vehicles
- Z-10 14.5mm 3 barrel Chaingun magazine size increased to 1800, damage reduced, cooling time increased
- LAV-25 now has 2 BGM-71B TOW missiles ready to fire, and 4 in stow. Reload time increased to 50
- Heat-Seeker Warning/Laser Warning/ and Missile Lockon sounds changed
- Changed flight Characteristics of Transport Copters
Stationary/Handheld Weapons
- Supply Crate no longer heal/repair vehicles
- AT mines can now be triggered by infantry
- Defibrillator only revives personnel to half health
- Added Burst mode to G36C, 2 rounds burst
- Reduced Magazine size for all weapons
Download the file from our TotalBF2 file library here. (http://totalbf2.filecloud.com/files/file.php?user_file_id=40305)

SL4Y3R
08-04-2005, 03:44 PM
so is this a separate mod or does it replace bf2?

sum41freaky
08-04-2005, 04:04 PM
its a separate mod
just instal it to the mod folder and run the level copy thingy

imported_Jammydodger
08-04-2005, 04:21 PM
Looking good Djuice ;)

imported_Animalmother
08-04-2005, 04:37 PM
please, we need a server, all these good mods are awesome but I hate playing singleplayer cause I feel lonely :cry:

seriously someone put up a server

SL4Y3R
08-04-2005, 04:48 PM
yeah someone run a server coz this mod owns.anyone know how to get 32,64 players on sp

DeathGiver
08-04-2005, 04:49 PM
I would like too know how they changed the weapon sounds.

SL4Y3R
08-04-2005, 05:43 PM
probably recorded/found a sound and coded it in then change the path that the weapons use and edited for their new ones

Nathanielvk
08-04-2005, 05:47 PM
I like everythinks you change exceped the sounds.

PunishedOne
08-04-2005, 05:50 PM
Realism my ***. The G36C does NOT have a burst mode. Only single and auto.

Reduced mag size for all weapons!? ALL of the mag sizes were correct.

nW^TowelHead
08-04-2005, 06:06 PM
- AT mines can now be triggered by infantry
Engies wont be underpowered, but perhaps overpowered... Mine spam at karkand :evil:

Trevfirestorm
08-04-2005, 06:14 PM
agree with punishedone and towelhead... stupid/useless/unrealistic changes
AT mines should not be triggered by infantry and the mag sizes where correct already, just taking punsihedone's word for the g36c but 2 round burst doesnt really sound right anyway so...

Wamp0311
08-04-2005, 06:31 PM
Actually it does...

http://www.hkpro.com/G36.htm

Thadius_Dean
08-04-2005, 06:51 PM
well it sounds like they know what they are doing, are the mag sizes fixed right or wrong? because that can make or break this download for me :(

popwar.
08-04-2005, 06:54 PM
ok...taking away everything thats fun in bf2 for the sake of realism....cool....

SL4Y3R
08-04-2005, 07:02 PM
mag sizes are correct

PunishedOne
08-04-2005, 07:02 PM
Actually it does...

http://www.hkpro.com/G36.htm


I did CTRL + F for burst, nothing.

EDIT: Look here. http://world.guns.ru/assault/as14-e.htm

Look at the G36C's pic. What fire selectors do you see? I see Safe, Single, and Auto. No burst.

Packetloss
08-04-2005, 07:02 PM
I'm not sure how this is more realism than "tweaks". Things like lav-25's with bustmasters and tows and carrying troops, are umm....not realistic.

Reviving people, even to half life, is not 'realistic'. etc etc etc

Im also told stinger lock sounds, etc are spot-on (By someone who uses the system in his unit) How is it more realistic now?

minkes
08-04-2005, 07:05 PM
Infantry does not trigger anti tank mines... The magazine sizes were okay, why did you change them? the g36 comes with different trigger groups, i guess the most common is full auto, the next perhaps a 3 round burst? but 2 rounds?? do they really build that anywhere?
where do you get your information from? any of you who actually served in the miitary?

Packetloss
08-04-2005, 07:10 PM
I did CTRL + F for burst, nothing.

EDIT: Look here. http://world.guns.ru/assault/as14-e.htm

Look at the G36C's pic. What fire selectors do you see? I see Safe, Single, and Auto. No burst.


This is one of the things that's actually right. Modern rifles are moving to a 2-round burts, over the 3 round.

http://www.hkpro.com/G36.htm

Note the 'modes of fire'. You should also READ the links you provide, not just look at the pictures. If you read
EDIT: Look here. http://world.guns.ru/assault/as14-e.htm
You'd have seen:

The typical HK trigger unit is assembled in a separate plastic housing, integral with the pistol grip and the triggerguard. Thanks to this feature, a wide variety of firing mode combinations can be used on any rifle, simply by installing the appropriate trigger unit. Standard options are single shots, full automatic fire, 2 or 3 round bursts in any reasonable combinations. The default version is the single shots + 2 rounds burst + full auto. The ambidextrous fire selector lever also serves as a safety switch.

DaSniper
08-04-2005, 07:39 PM
Ok for some reason I dont have a crosshair. Is this ment to be this way or did something happen please inform me.

Bravo Six
08-04-2005, 08:24 PM
The G36c has a semi-auto, full auto and 3 round burst. You can see the trigger groups in game on the side of the model. Also HKPro lists it has having 3 round along with full and semi.

Also your changes hardly make the game more realistic, AT mines are pressure sensitive and a person does not weigh enough to set one off. Infact most people could jump on one and not set it off. Also the magazine sizes were all correct, as were the trigger groups except the G36C (see 3 round burst above). I'd call your mod more personal tweaks, basically how you think things should work.

Let me ask you this, did you do any research at all? Any realism mod should start with research, and lots of it. Nice try, but you fail your mod isn't any more realistic then the standard game. Infact in many ways it's less realistic.

Henniger
08-04-2005, 08:45 PM
Ok for some reason I dont have a crosshair. Is this ment to be this way or did something happen please inform me.

That would actually be a realistic change.

But I think I'll be waiting for a full blown out mod, instead of just a few tweaks.

jdogg88-Fed
08-04-2005, 08:46 PM
please, we need a server, all these good mods are awesome but I hate playing singleplayer cause I feel lonely :cry:

seriously someone put up a server
yeah know how that is wish some servers where up with mods

Barred
08-04-2005, 09:48 PM
Watch the vid on http://www.hkpro.com/G36.htm (it is hidden under the table) the weapon is being fired in all modes and with a CMAG. The burst mode is 2 rounds (if you count them).

Fea
08-04-2005, 09:51 PM
The Swedish AT-mine goes of at about 120kg of preasure. During my time in the army we had one person at our 2 platoons of aprox 70 people that would trigger one. (Tank regiment btw) That was if he would have been fully geared up with AK5, ammo and backpack/cheramic-vest. Most guys in BF2 tend to look like they weigh in below that exept possibly Engineer and Support classes.

gungho
08-04-2005, 10:18 PM
I've got nothing against this mod, but I just dont think it will be popular. Its a few tweaks, and there are no servers for it.

solodude23
08-05-2005, 01:54 AM
I did CTRL + F for burst, nothing.

EDIT: Look here. http://world.guns.ru/assault/as14-e.htm

Look at the G36C's pic. What fire selectors do you see? I see Safe, Single, and Auto. No burst.
Go to the site and look at the rates of fire unrer any of the G36 rifleas. ALL say S/2/F. Are you saying the H&K site is wrong about THEIR firearms? Besides that do some real research. I think most now have 3rnd burst but most firearms ar eupgrading to 2 round burst instead of 3.

That would actually be a realistic change.

But I think I'll be waiting for a full blown out mod, instead of just a few tweaks.
Not too possible without the MDK.

Bravo Six
08-05-2005, 02:43 AM
Go to the site and look at the rates of fire unrer any of the G36 rifleas. ALL say S/2/F. Are you saying the H&K site is wrong about THEIR firearms? Besides that do some real research. I think most now have 3rnd burst but most firearms ar eupgrading to 2 round burst instead of 3.


Not too possible without the MDK.

I went to the german H&K site, heres what I found under the G36C tech specs "Feuermodus: S = Einzelfeuer, 3 = 3-Schuss-Feuerstoß, F = Dauerfeuer". For those that dont read german "Firemodes" S = semi automatic, 3 = 3 shot burst, F = full automatic".

Maybe you should do some real research before blowing your mouth off eh? And no "3" isnt german for "2" oh and it's SDK not MDK. :P

Linkage for that little extra proof (http://www.heckler-koch.de/core.php?dat=Y29tcG9uZW50PWFydGljbGVzJmFjdGlvbj1za G93JnhJRD1wYXJhZ3JhcGhCeUlEQW5kUGFyZW50SUQmYXJ0aWN sZUlEPTI2NiZwcGFyZW50SUQ9MTMyJmNhdElEPTEzMDImbGFuZ 0lEPTEmcGFyZW50SUQ9NjQ3Jm5hdmlnYXRpb25JRD02NDgmdXN lRmxhc2g9)

NPR Ira Glass
08-05-2005, 04:48 AM
First of all, keep in mind that HK often makes rifles/subguns with different, interchangeable trigger groups.

That having been said, the HK-USA site lists the G36C as being S,2,F

http://www.hecklerkoch-usa.com/images/media/techdata/LE_Chart.pdf

And, while we're at it, the AT mines that the US uses are all magnetic-fused, so foot soldiers wouldn't set them off.

http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/mines.htm

Dr-X
08-05-2005, 04:52 AM
FFS the weapons come with several trigger options INCLUDING 2 round burst. It's no more or less realistic, they've just changed to a different trigger option. It's laughable seeing 'go do some research' from people that are 100% wrong.

Reign
08-05-2005, 05:37 AM
Reduced Magazine size for all weapons blah

LonelyMess
08-15-2005, 08:12 PM
well.......
i used to have the problem with BF2 that i will always feel like sitting infront of a screen...........not like i am actually absorbed by the game..........
and i wouldnt know why is that..........., well,......know i know........its the sounds....eventhgough i use the SB live! 7.1 and eax hd i wouldn´t feel happy in the game.......but this all changed trying the realism mod........

i think actually EaGames should give this guy a contract.....lol

nice work man........

well as maybe many of you, i actually served in the army and know that fireing a rifle is a pain in the ***, sorry, i mean ear........well the realism mod brings in my sight a very good sound to similate i observed in myself, and i found me changing my tactics because of more "REALISM" so ihope EAGAMES will bring a multipayer mod or patch to change that sounds......