Project Reality Mini-Mod Released!

[DMC]

The guys developing the <a href="http://www.realitymod.com/">Project Reality</a> mod are happy to release version 0.1 of their mini-mod. This release includes extensive adjustments to BF2, making gameplay more realistic. Below are a few notable changes.
<blockquote>- Removed the Kill Indicator<br>- Reduced Jumpheight & Distance<br>- Changed handheld weapon Muzzleflashes / ROF / Recoil / Velocities / Damages<br>- Added 2 new materials to differentiate between 5.56, 7.62, and 9mm. calibres<br>- Tweaked Vehicle Physics<br>- Gave grenades/explosives more power/radius!<br>- Altered Sniper Rifles Damage / Zoom<br>- Increased the shake sensitivity of the camera 2x<br>- Supplies from Commander no longer repair damaged battlefield assets, such as vehicles and structures<br>- Increased the sound radius of weapon discharges</blockquote>
Read the release notes <a href="http://www.realitymod.com/index.php?page=release_prmm">here</a>. You may also <a href="http://totalbf2.filecloud.com/files/file.php?user_file_id=42650">download</a> the file from the <a href="http://totalbf2.filecloud.com/files/file.php?user_file_id=42650">TBF2 file library</a>.

[Johnny Bravo]

w00t!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Johnny Bravo]

huah!!

[artnez.com]

Just tried it out... AWESOME AWESOME.

Keep going guys!!

[Dave11]

This Mod Is Awesome !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

[Bravo Six]

Not bad, not bad at all. Good to finally see nades with a decent explosion radius. SO how bout gettin some servers for this thing going ?

[solodude23]

Yeah its really great. Too bad its hard to find a server thoughdamn BF2 server manager.....

[Requiem]

Not bad, not bad at all. Good to finally see nades with a decent explosion radius. SO how bout gettin some servers for this thing going ?

This is very much in the process :) Tomorrow should be good.

[imported_Davis]

Dedicated Server download (http://files.filefront.com/PRMM_Dedicated_Server_01/;4035516;;/fileinfo.html) enjoy...

[ticulg]

dam this mod is great just need a server to play it

[solodude23]

PRMM - www.dffclan.com
213.233.197.190:16567

Ok server, only one I can find. ****ty for most that are West Coast/Central USA.

[Arc7urus]

This mod is wonderful! Only problem is I can only find one server (the above mentioned) and I (and alot of other players on the server) get serious lag issues, way too much to enjoy the mod... I'll keep an eye out for more servers though. Good work PR mod team!

[solodude23]

Yeah thats what Im saying, kinda laggy. Well...really laggy....server had almost 20 players but I think many lost connection....now its at 13.

Everyone left the above server because of lag and went to some 100Mbit server...can't find it....

[ticulg]

yep some are up but they are located in netherland just use allseeyingeye and you will see like 4-5 server

[Eglaerinion]

PRMM - www.dffclan.com
213.233.197.190:16567

Ok server, only one I can find. ****ty for most that are West Coast/Central USA.
Cool that's a dutch server. Will play some tomorrow, it's past 3 am and I need some sleep.

[vietsoldier]

hmm weird, how come mine crashed to desktop right after it finish loading the map???

im angry :(

[solodude23]

Rawr at the Dutch servers.....rawr at my 200+ ping....

[Woolgar]

Yeah lagged out bigtime on that server. Besides that Im diggin PRMM its cool. Also Im a Lower East Coaster (FL) and it was still spikin bigtime for me...

[solodude23]

Yay, ill be joining soon.

[DMC]

hmm weird, how come mine crashed to desktop right after it finish loading the map???

im angry :(
Same problem here.

[solodude23]

Make sure you install it right so its in the BF2 folder in the right drive. C:\Games\Battlefield 2 -----D:\Games\Battlefield 2, etc. Do not make it in your mods directory.

[Nathan0490]

Running on our server! Check my sig for server info!!!

[solodude23]

17 already, cool. Ill try to get more. So many ppl in the Dutch server with high *** ping, but its full so I can't tell them about the Sir. Server :(

[vietsoldier]

i found out my problem, i didnt activate the mod :)

[C11.Nemisis]

any other download links other than filecloud? it sucks

[Dre]

Nice!

[solodude23]

any other download links other than filecloud? it sucks
http://battlefield2.filefront.com/file/BF2_Project_Reality_MiniMod_V01;46005

[C11.Nemisis]

omg thank you, also i love what you did to the sniper rifles, EA should take a lesson from you.

[DoubleVee]

where did the muzzle flash go?...I don't think it's very realistic....and how come I can't see if my weapon is on Auto/Burst, or single....and what's the difference between HEAT and the other one, I can't figure it out

[Dre]

Muzzle flash was removed as real weapons do not have Hollywood pyrotechnic pops after each round. More smoke vs. flash.

You can keep track of your weapon setting by doing the following: auto or burst is currently the default. Click over for single. It's not as useful as a HUD indicator, but in contemporary infantry combat, there is no HUD.

[solodude23]

Muzzle flash was removed as real weapons do not have Hollywood pyrotechnic pops after each round. More smoke vs. flash.
As Requiem said, the muzzleflash was more like intergalactic explosion :)


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[POWER]

Muzzle flash was removed as real weapons do not have Hollywood pyrotechnic pops after each round. More smoke vs. flash.

You can keep track of your weapon setting by doing the following: auto or burst is currently the default. Click over for single. It's not as useful as a HUD indicator, but in contemporary infantry combat, there is no HUD.

I agree with everything so far except for the removal of the firemode indicator. In RL you can easily check this. In the game you can't. You should put it back.

Heck, if you're talking realism, why not remove the ammo indicator (rounds remaining in the mag) and just make the last 5 rounds tracer ammo to notify the operator that he's outta ammo.

Actually, I would do the last 5 round ball, and put the three rounds before that as tracers, so I knew when I was down to 5 rounds in the mag without looking. Worked for me in Desert Storm. Should work just fine in game.

[sirnaut]

very nice work ..played for while and it was a blast

[Cerro]

Muzzle flash was removed as real weapons do not have Hollywood pyrotechnic pops after each round. More smoke vs. flash.

You can keep track of your weapon setting by doing the following: auto or burst is currently the default. Click over for single. It's not as useful as a HUD indicator, but in contemporary infantry combat, there is no HUD.
There might not be a hud in contemporary infantry combat but for firemode you wouldn't need one, in real life one quick touch of the thumb would tell you in what position the firemode selector points to.
As you can't do that in a game, a visual que might do the trick?

[solodude23]

For now I think your fire mode indicator should be kept in. I hate having to fire to have to know what I have selected. For one it can give me away, and other than that its just plain not nearly realistic or practical. Util some sort of realistic visual thing is added, it should be kept in.

[Hoss]

I played for about an hour before bed tonight. With the rifles being stronger and a lack of health meter it forces you to be less of a "rambo" then you would in vanilla Bf2. I actually saw people using covering fire and moving as squad

mmm teamwork, thats what I'm talking about. ;)

[imported_Fig]

a fire mode indicator would be nice, and we already have the ammo count taken out, only clips remaining are shown.

[GlobalFear]

I'm going to download this tomorrow morning. Looks like fun.

Why didn't you remove the name tags? (Unless you did)

[solodude23]

Why didn't you remove the name tags? (Unless you did)
Tags are only a serverside option as far as I know. Can't be changed in the code.

[Diesel_Power]

won't the increased radius, grenade damage encourage nade spamming?

[DoubleVee]

I think some kind of health meter is needed, cuz in RL life u can tell if u r hit and how badly...in this mod u can't, unless u r bleeding....

Also, how come only M24 has such a powerfull scope, how about other sniper rifles?

and I think the sounds need to tweaked...I think you jsut tried to make the guns louder but it jsut didn't come out that good...cuz when a guy is "a mile" away...u can hear his gun, like he's right next to you

[Essau]

Well it's not bad, but I don't really like it. It limits the gameplay options of BF2. It feels more like a lite version of BF2 than a BF2 with a mod. They just removed a couple of things and didn't really add a lot noticeble stuff. In my opinion that's rather easy for a mod, let's hope they elarge the game, than it might be something.

[ArchEnemy]

what's the difference between HEAT and the other one, I can't figure it out


You'll just have to play with it and see whats the difference between both rounds. If the HEAT round is used properly you can destroy a MBT within one shot.

[snubber]

Muzzle flash was removed as real weapons do not have Hollywood pyrotechnic pops after each round. More smoke vs. flash.

You can keep track of your weapon setting by doing the following: auto or burst is currently the default. Click over for single. It's not as useful as a HUD indicator, but in contemporary infantry combat, there is no HUD.

This is a bad sign IMO. I dislike people who push "realism at all costs" without intelligently thinking it through. In contemporary infantry combat, there IS an indicator, and in fact, it's easy to tell the firemode WITHOUT EVEN looking, as others have said. Unless you're also shipping us a tactile gunshaped controller with a firemode selector on it, then perhaps a visual cue might be nice?

Is this the same mod that has anti-tank mines activated by infantry "for the sake of realism" (even though that does NOT happen), or another mod making misguided game design decisions?

It's nice to get closer to reality, but again, unless full-on VR is being used, we're dealing with a monitor and a keyboard, and people have to THINK THROUGH these decisions. "Dude no ammo indicator!! JUST LIKE REAL LIFE BROHAM!!! In 'nam dudes didn't have flatscreen monitors telling them how many bullets they have so WE DON'T EITHER!" Fine. But an actual clip weighs a lot less when it's about dry than when it's full. Or tracers can be used to indicate final rounds. Without taking these type of things into consideration, it just make a "realism mod" suck.

[Hailo]

Mirror and server details: http://reality.totaldamage.org/

We have a server up and ready to be used now with this mod :D

Thanks for the mini mod, its looking great so far.

[Hoss]

and I think the sounds need to tweaked...I think you jsut tried to make the guns louder but it jsut didn't come out that good...cuz when a guy is "a mile" away...u can hear his gun, like he's right next to you

I love that change! lol Someone shoots a gun in an urban spot like Kirkland, half the town should hear it...and now they do!


Fireindicator and bullet counts not being there I have no issues with. You just have to keep track of what you are doing in the middle of battle...


And this is the Mini-Mod of the game. Nothing major was added because thats not the point of a mini mod. Now that everyone has the mod tools, things on ALL the mods out there can finally start to make some large steps forward.

[imported_Gator]

Loads then ctd? Its in the Bf2 directory....? :confused:

[Hoss]

Activate mod in "community" tab?

[Napalmas]

No more BF2 for me. Its PR from now on!

[Keith Maniac]

Well it's not bad, but I don't really like it. It limits the gameplay options of BF2. It feels more like a lite version of BF2 than a BF2 with a mod. They just removed a couple of things and didn't really add a lot noticeble stuff. In my opinion that's rather easy for a mod, let's hope they elarge the game, than it might be something.
Yeah this feels like a crippled version of bf2. The weapons are nice with more damage and better accuracy but otherwise this seems to have a lot of things "missing" from the game. Like players, servers and fun... :cool:

[Napalmas]

I like the changes. You also have to remember that this is a mini-mod. Maybe you should head over to their website before you start making assumptions. Is it really easy to make a mod that adds the whole British military into the game???I think not. I dislike people who push opinions without intelligently thinking them through.

[Kolbeck10]

I love that change! lol Someone shoots a gun in an urban spot like Kirkland, half the town should hear it...and now they do!


Fireindicator and bullet counts not being there I have no issues with. You just have to keep track of what you are doing in the middle of battle...


And this is the Mini-Mod of the game. Nothing major was added because thats not the point of a mini mod. Now that everyone has the mod tools, things on ALL the mods out there can finally start to make some large steps forward.

While I agree that the gun sounds should be louder, if someone shoots a gun 5 blocks away, it shouldn't sound like they are right next to you, it should be loud, but muffled...

[GlobalFear]

Tags are only a serverside option as far as I know. Can't be changed in the code.


Wrong. :D

Add the following line to Gamelogicinit.con:
"NameTags.MaxFriendlyDistance 000"

[$G-MONEY SMITH$]

i dont liek this mod anymore its lame. i still like PR just not the mini mod.

[Paladin-X]

In regards to those that don't like the mod...

We understand that not everyone will like the changes we have made and certainly respect your opinion on that. Even more, it is appreciated that you at least noted what you don't like about it.

Please keep in mind that this is our first release and we are definitely working to make the realism experience better. So if you don't like it now, we surely hope that you will try out future releases and maybe you'll find it more to your liking. If not, well that is understandable too.

Thank you all for your feedback.

[$G-MONEY SMITH$]

ok i definently respect all modders, and i will explain why im not likeing it as of now.
1.well the ROf you cant tell wich its on make a little indicator
2.at end of rounds the winner doesnt come up
3.in planes you see no ammo indicators, in a real plane you can see what you have left.
4.vehichles you cant tell how much damage is done to them in a real vehichle besides jeeps youll have warnings and whatnot.
5.the ammo doesnt realy bother me. i wish i new how amny clips i have to begin with.
6.the bleeding i cant stand it.
7.the m24 the zoom is to far for how inacurate the gun is, at distances you cant hit anything. i love sniping and im a good sniper. but this is rediculous.
8.in the gunner position in choppers you cant see anything especialy in the chinese atack chopper.
theres more i just cant think of them as of now oh blood! i know its in there but would there be a way to make bodies last longer, and when shooting people i realy cant tell when i hit them. this is what anoyed me about all the other bf titles.especialy 42. well thats all i have as of now.

[imported_DMXSNOW]

ok i definently respect all modders, and i will explain why im not likeing it as of now.
1.well the ROf you cant tell wich its on make a little indicator
2.at end of rounds the winner doesnt come up
3.in planes you see no ammo indicators, in a real plane you can see what you have left.
4.vehichles you cant tell how much damage is done to them in a real vehichle besides jeeps youll have warnings and whatnot.
5.the ammo doesnt realy bother me. i wish i new how amny clips i have to begin with.
6.the bleeding i cant stand it.
7.the m24 the zoom is to far for how inacurate the gun is, at distances you cant hit anything. i love sniping and im a good sniper. but this is rediculous.
8.in the gunner position in choppers you cant see anything especialy in the chinese atack chopper.
theres more i just cant think of them as of now oh blood! i know its in there but would there be a way to make bodies last longer, and when shooting people i realy cant tell when i hit them. this is what anoyed me about all the other bf titles.especialy 42. well thats all i have as of now.

I love the blood and I think its great, and the rest I agree with.

[Crunkulater]

Simply Amazing. Keep up the good work.

[$G-MONEY SMITH$]

i forgot to type that there needs more blood i cant tell when i freakin hit someone!!

[imported_DMXSNOW]

O yea I forgot to add that I love how its 3 shots to the chest will drop a guy and 1 shot to the head gives you a instant kill, thats how its suppose to be.

[Durka Durka racist]

Anyone else having trouble with this mod crashing? I start up the game and get about a minute into it and it crashed back to desktop, shutting down game. Im using 24 bots, and in the normal bf2 with the same video settings and everything the game runs smoothly, any suggestions? thx.

[Cerro]

Just for the sake of the argument, drop the number of bots and see what happens.
I have issues with the smokescreens at my current settings and those work fine for vanilla BF2 so you might want to think about losing a bot or two. Unless you want to keep the bots and lowere your settings....
I'm not saying this will solve your crashing but it's something to try...

[lIq]

worked fine last night, crashes on map load today.....kinda sucked as I now see populated servers D:

[Durka Durka racist]

That doesnt work, and i turned video setting all the way down, and had 10 bots, still crashes. I had to install it to the mods folder because it kept saying that it couldnt find all the levels or something like tht. Should i try manually installing all the levels?

[Cerro]

You can try that first. I'm not sure it will work though.
Have you tried uninstalling BF2 and do a fresh install? I mean completely wipe everything related to BF2 off your harddrive?
As a last resort I'd do that. Had to do it myself on my second machine that even helped me with EA:s 1.02 patch.

[JAMES315]

This is a bad sign IMO. I dislike people who push "realism at all costs" without intelligently thinking it through.

That's the whole point of reality mods, though. If you want better gameplay at the expense of realism, you can do vanilla BF2.

[Munchies]

That's the whole point of reality mods, though. If you want better gameplay at the expense of realism, you can do vanilla BF2.

If you call BF2 vanilla gameplay better at the expense of realism then you have mental issues BF2 vanilla is just crappy gameplay at the expense of everything.

[ArchEnemy]

That doesnt work, and i turned video setting all the way down, and had 10 bots, still crashes. I had to install it to the mods folder because it kept saying that it couldnt find all the levels or something like tht. Should i try manually installing all the levels?

yes :)

[imported_DMXSNOW]

Any servers that work?

When I try to connect to some of the servers here, I get a error connection message or a "You do not have this map".

[Hoss]

Here is the server forum in the Project Reality forums. You should be able to find some good servers from the list.

http://realitymod.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=20&sid=133ee99197b5287bb230cde13e9cd598

Hope to see you out on the battlefield!

[Trevfirestorm]

nice but... nothing showing which firemode is selected, zoom on MG while useful is that realism? recoil is horrid on lmg when prone

cant wait to see future releases though :D

[Crunkulater]

I love how you just can't prone and shoot anymore and the person with the rock paper kit wins.

Every encounter requires sneekyness now and if you get cought with your pants down you lose. This type of action reminds me of ghost recon and I love it.


I only have one or 2 complaints so far.

1. Vehicles are still overpowering, I want to see more Hoof it and squad personel action.

2. make all weapons unlocked.

[solodude23]

Type in PRMM in the server name area and I think one server right now has approximatly 30 players. Im joining now.

[EdanA]

This mod is unfortunately absolute puss... installs fine but the game is turned into a steaming pile of poo.... mods are meant to advance a game not ruin them....

[GlobalFear]

If you don't like it then:

A: Uninstall and be on your way
B: Post constructive criticism instead of things like "This mod is unfortunately absolute puss"

[solodude23]

This mod is unfortunately absolute puss... installs fine but the game is turned into a steaming pile of poo.... mods are meant to advance a game not ruin them....
1. If your an arcade nazi, don't download this.
2. Its called an opinion.

Wrong. :D
Add the following line to Gamelogicinit.con:
"NameTags.MaxFriendlyDistance 000"
Im not a coder, but im guessing that dosn't effect putting your mouse over enemy at all...does it? Thats what I mean. I don't really want to see enemy tags at all unless its like within a 4ft range, JIC you want to know who it is or w/e.

Any way in the code to remove ENEMY tags when you put your mouse over them?

[The Defeatest]

Meh , I find it kinda boring myself. I loved Ghost recon too! I find tho that realism mods are short lived cause people still wanna have fun. When it's too much like work I don;t like it. And whoever said that vanilla bf2 is crappy gameplay at the expense of everything........you seem to spend alot of time making sigs and avatars for a guy who thinks the game is crappy. Go play CS.

[Durka Durka racist]

Alright, my game still crashes and it pisses me off cuz i really like this mod, a lot. Can someone please tell me exactly what to do.. cuz ive tried everything and it still crashes. Thx.

[solodude23]

Install to the BF2 directory. (Ex: C:\Program Files\EA Games\Battlefield 2) not your mods folder. Tell me the exact directory how your installing it. After that, it should work fine when starting directly from the shortcut. If you don't go to Community- Custom Game and select PRMM, then click Activate to the right.

Join a server and have fun.

[Durka Durka racist]

Thats what the install location says but it automatically installs it to the mods folder. And what do u mean by "go to Community- Custom Game and select PRMM, then click Activate to the right.".. where would i find tht. thx

[Nathan0490]

I was looking through my Program List and I saw a thing called "My Program Version 1.5" turns out it is something to do with PRMM and the horrible thing about the file is that it takes up Over 6 GIGS....

Below is a screenshot.....


http://img362.imageshack.us/my.php?image=prmmwtfuninstaller7fp.png

[Durka Durka racist]

im guessing i should remove this file? I hav a around 120 gigs of free space, so if i hav to give up 6 gigs to run this mod its worth it.

[Cerro]

Thats what the install location says but it automatically installs it to the mods folder. And what do u mean by "go to Community- Custom Game and select PRMM, then click Activate to the right.".. where would i find tht. thx
Launch BF2, the original game, once the menu has loaded find a buttn that says "COMMUNITY".
Click it and another menu will appear. Find a button named "CUSTOM GAME"
Should be the last one in the second row of buttons. Click it.
Now, in the window below the buttons a list of the mods you have installed for BF2 should show up.
Locate PRMM Project Reality MiniMod click on it (the name). Find a button named "ACTIVATE" Click on it and answer yes when it asks you if you want to restart.

[Requiem]

I was looking through my Program List and I saw a thing called "My Program Version 1.5" turns out it is something to do with PRMM and the horrible thing about the file is that it takes up Over 6 GIGS....

Below is a screenshot.....


http://img362.imageshack.us/my.php?image=prmmwtfuninstaller7fp.png

It's your BF2 directory, mines 5.22 GB for example.

[solodude23]

I was looking through my Program List and I saw a thing called "My Program Version 1.5" turns out it is something to do with PRMM and the horrible thing about the file is that it takes up Over 6 GIGS....

Below is a screenshot.....


http://img362.imageshack.us/my.php?image=prmmwtfuninstaller7fp.png
Thats your entire BF2 directory. Mines 4.4gb, being BF2 and 2 other mods.

[GlobalFear]

Im not a coder, but im guessing that dosn't effect putting your mouse over enemy at all...does it? Thats what I mean. I don't really want to see enemy tags at all unless its like within a 4ft range, JIC you want to know who it is or w/e.

Any way in the code to remove ENEMY tags when you put your mouse over them?

Not that I'm aware of, I'll keep my eyes open though.

[Paladin-X]

Help us shape the mod. Get involved!

http://realitymod.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1899

http://realitymod.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1898

For the more controversial changes we are doing up some polls to survey what people think about some changes that will be done for a future release. Although we may not go with the majority ruling on any giving poll, we certainly appreciate your participation and feedback.

[C-Hawk]

I, like Durka Durka, really think I'd enjoy this MOD, BUT the MOD starts up fine and then shortly "freezes and then CTD!". I have installed as directed to the default location and everything - finally - I uninstalled it and then de-fragged, re-installed, but same thing - FREEZE- CRASH! My regular BF2 has not and still does not do the same thing. Please advise IF possible.

TKS C-Hawk :hmm:

[StormRavn]

just played this tonight really enjoied it although give me my weapon cross hairs and the ability to change the camera and this mod is set for a good time

[solodude23]

just played this tonight really enjoied it although give me my weapon cross hairs and the ability to change the camera and this mod is set for a good time
Bah, crosshairs are overrated :rolleyes:

[StormRavn]

yes but sometimes its nice to have a aim point =)

[AlphaMRE]

Installed this mod and now I cannot connect to regular bf2 servers.

Get an error when joining game something like:
"Can only connect to server with unmodified content. Please return to original BF2 content" or something to that effect.

So now I cannot play the regular game online.

Want to unistall mod w/o uninstalling bf2 and reinstalling. WTF?!?!

[C-Hawk]

I kind of ran into the same thing - they SHOULD tell you in their README thing that there is a UNINSTALL but you can hardly tell it by it's name. It is not called PRIMM - - - - but go to ADD REMOVE PROGRAMS in Control Panel and aways down there you will find a new one called something like "My Project....." that will be it. Good Luck! :confused:

[Dre]

yes but sometimes its nice to have a aim point =)
That's why the good lord gave your iron sights :)

[AlphaMRE]

In reply to #94

POS mod I unistalled that and still have the problem!! ARGH

Has nobody else had this problem?

[C-Hawk]

[R-DEV]Paladin-X
Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 3:01 am



PR Coder




Posts: 211
Posts/Day: 3.25
Location: Canada

All the installer does is extract the mod to ..\mods\PRMM and copy levels from ..\mods\bf2 to ..\mods\PRMM. To uninstall, simply delete the PRMM folder or go into add/remove programs and remove My Program 1.5
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[MrGrimm]

PRMM Server running @ 146.82.151.165
64 person All Weapons
Located in Chicago
www.ZombieBattalion.com

[CAGE RATTLER]

That's why the good lord gave your iron sights :)

That would be fine except the view isnt down the sites in normal view mode. You have to aim way right.

Any chance of moving the camera view so we are looking down the sites?

And unfortunately when ive went online with it .............. theres about 10 servers running it ...... but no one in them :hmm:

Great mod by the way!