EA Crackdown

[Scoobing]

An email from Colin Clark to all Trusted Partners has outlined a more aggressive policy to be taken by EA against those that run ranked servers that are modded in any shape or form by an Admin. This includes an Admin ordering certain weapons only may be used, or ordering players not to cap flags. This, according to EA:<blockquote>
[...]creates environments where players gain stats unrealistically and creates an imbalance in the ranked server playing field. In our opinion, these players are breaking EA's Terms of Service.</blockquote>

If a server is found to be breaking the Terms of Service in such a manner as described above, then action will be taken. Perhaps the most drastic action of EA will be to <b>strip all players of their stats</b> who are caught on the server at the time of discovery, and in the case of a clan server, anyone who shares clan tags, if they seem to have any anomalous stats.
Further action will also be taken to stop the clan/group from being able to own a ranked server.
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A copy of the full email can be found <a href="http://www.totalbf2.com/forums/showthread.php?t=28136">here.</a>
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An image of the email (for those who doubt it's validity) can be seen <a href="http://www.superimagehost.com/is.php?i=39282&img=4gojeanotice.JPG">here.</a>

[DoubleVee]

um...so if "someone" played on that "Knife/Pistol only" server. does that mean their stats will be reset?

[Scoobing]

Only if you get caught from now on I think. EA seems to be taking a no BS line on this one.

[=CC=Serpentor]

Cool, so long as they are clear on the rules.

[Ramseus]

So then is it still everything goes for unranked?

[EliteDoughBoy]

Wow they are surious

[Scoobing]

So then is it still everything goes for unranked?

Yup, as far as I know you can do whatever you want on an unranked server..

[Badlizzard2]

Last thread that started about this turned into a flame fest, hope it doesn't happen again.

[Cpt. Ford]

Wow, there taking serious action. Now if they put that seriousness towards the patches we'll be set.

[Ghost-Three-Four]

OUch...:laugh:

[zrulli]

WOW! Watch out!!!
*zrulli crawls away from computer*

[imported_-=| Foley |=-]

I love playing on pistol knife and defib servers, they're a good change and very fun, especially when everyone obeys the rules. Lol it makes me feel like im Jack baeur in 24 beep,,, beep,,, beep,,, beep...

[solodude23]

Its great playing with only Knife/Defibs. I have never done it on a ranked server though, cause I hate ranks.

[Scoobing]

Well note that this won't get rid of the knife/pistol/defib servers, they just wont be ranked. You can't tell me that all the fun from these servers comes from them being ranked.... :rolleyes:

[bigpappa]

An email from Colin Clark to all Trusted Partners has outlined a more aggressive policy to be taken by EA against those that run servers that are modded in any shape or form by an Admin. This includes an Admin ordering certain weapons only may be used, or ordering players not to cap flags. This, according to EA:<blockquote>
[...]creates environments where players gain stats unrealistically and creates an imbalance in the ranked server playing field. In our opinion, these players are breaking EA's Terms of Service.</blockquote>

If a server is found to be breaking the Terms of Service in such a manner as described above, then action will be taken. Perhaps the most drastic action of EA will be to <b>strip all players of their stats</b> who are caught on the server at the time of discovery, and in the case of a clan server, anyone who shares clan tags, if they seem to have any anomalous stats.
Further action will also be taken to stop the clan/group from being able to own a ranked server.
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A copy of the full email can be found <a href="http://www.totalbf2.com/forums/showthread.php?t=28136">here.</a>
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An image of the email (for those who doubt it's validity) can be seen <a href="http://www.superimagehost.com/is.php?i=39282&img=4gojeanotice.JPG">here.</a>

a little late, but at least they are doing something

[MEGALADON]

Talk about micro management!!!

The more EA talks the less I like there products.

:mad: :evil: :mad:

[pastorjames]

So where's the 1.03 patch? I'd say EA, stop bitching about these servers and fix the game.

[Dr.D]

What the hell this better only be for ranked servers....:mad: :mad:

[Scoobing]

Yeah it is, unranked you can do whatever you want.

[Marconus]

Personally, I think it's stupid. Seriously. I've never farmed points and I'm not in a clan. I just think it's ridiculous that they're going to punish people for farming. I mean, look at it in their perspective. EA makes it damn near impossible to rank up without having to stop everything you do in life and play, play, play. I'm not saying that the ranks should be simple to get at; that would make ranking up too easy. But it's just a dumb concept of having to reach the scores you have to reach in order to rank up and get access to a weapon. To make it COMPLETELY fair, you'd have to play 24/7 Karkand, get 100 points a round, and play at LEAST all day (literally) to get anywhere with points. Don't get me wrong, I'm glad there is some sort of an award system in the game, that makes it all the more fun and challenging. Just don't make it so challenging that you have to dedicate your every breath into the game.

[Snake101]

So where's the 1.03 patch? I'd say EA, stop bitching about these servers and fix the game.
It takes one guy and one and one computer to post that information :laugh:
The patch will be here soon...they are working on it. It only took what...5 minutes of their time to post this new info up...it's not like its going to affect when the patch is release :D

[imported_Stosin]

The only thing that really ****es me off about this is the fact that EA is telling us how to play a game we purchased. IMO I think its ridicuous.

[Harmor]

Good that EA is doing this, but the damage may already be done.

Better late than never.

I would just like for them to send an email to all of us letting us know this. I don't recall getting an email/newsletter from EA/DICE about this. Luckily this website is here to inform us. :)

[Coderedfox]

THANKS EA! this is great news, and all you whiners...have nothing to whine about.

RANKED SERVER = HOW THE GAME IS SHIPPED.
UNRANKED = YOU CAN DO ANYTHING YOU LIKE.

So what the problem?

[dub]

Sounds like good news to me, still don't see how that would stop clans locking their ranked servers and farming points...

I was expecting to see a lot more responses in this thread like Stosin's... glad to see it's not the case....








yet.

[imported_TheONE]

For you to post this as news when there is NO official statement on the EA site is absolutely careless...when hence it is NOT OFFICIAL news hence the official site thing..

So please now show me a link to this ON EA SITE!!! plz

[AlphexHunter]

mmm....Is this suppose to scare uss coz am not gonna change anything and doing not that am doing something bad but this sounds like a treat.

[CTD-Tiwaz]

I believe the position EA/Dice is taking on this issue is ridiculous. EA/Dice screwed the ranking and stat system by making outrageous goals for anyone to obtain new weapons and rank, so they can sell their servers. Then they want to punish the players for finding loopholes in EA/Dice's screw ups..

How about EA/Dice restructure the rank and stat system? NAW! that would be too easy and the right thing to do..

But hell, i don't even play BF2 anymore, but i couldn't resist this opportunity to cut on them for another of their screw ups by greed..

[imported_TheONE]

For EA/DICE: a big F#ck you

I'm gonna call them on this bluff/fake notice or whatever, they do not have the resource's to handle the true regular statpadder that everyone complains about everyday, they will not have the manpower to take these evil h@x0r knife pistol servers down...

I will be posting some new info to my site soon.....

[AFEDslayer]

Ok i think that this is good to some extent , but not the way our server runs it.

My communities server runs a regular 40player ranked server, and once a week for 3-4 hours we have what we call a skill builder night. and NO we are not "Point farming" nor standing around just schooting eachother and reviving them. for example we do "Sniper night" where only sniper rifles are allowed, and we play FOR REAL.. but with limited weapons, now do you guys realy think this is wrong?

[espino0311]

hey what ever it takes people will still find a way

[Ace101]

Damn this sucks, can they at least wait till I reach corporal on the pistol/knife servers? :D

[mr_o]

what is with EA. Ur not allowed to unlock weapons on an unraked server. Ur not allowed to use models or height maps from 42/DC.
EA are we allowed to have a cookie before bed?

[ICPO]

The only thing that really ****es me off about this is the fact that EA is telling us how to play a game we purchased. IMO I think its ridicuous.
You're right we paid good money and should be allowed to play the game we want.

[mr_o]

Ok i think that this is good to some extent , but not the way our server runs it.

My communities server runs a regular 40player ranked server, and once a week for 3-4 hours we have what we call a skill builder night. and NO we are not "Point farming" nor standing around just schooting eachother and reviving them. for example we do "Sniper night" where only sniper rifles are allowed, and we play FOR REAL.. but with limited weapons, now do you guys realy think this is wrong?
hell no. its ur server. u want to liven up a nights gaming and promote use of a variety of weapons.

[Scoobing]

You can, just not on ranked servers.

[BLeh]

Hold on how can they do this?
1) We paid for the game didn't we?
2) We paid for the server didn't we?
3) What's wrong with it?
4) How does this effect EA?
5) What about people who use Blackhawks to rack up points?
6) Closing Knife/Pistols servers isn't going to stop people from going to regular servers and do it.
7) What do they mean by reset stats? does that mean back to 0? will they tell us to stop before they do it?
8) Whenever EA hosts all the RANKED server without making ANYONE pay they can make all the rules but if people are paying for there ranked server it's their server

[Ion]

LOL O Brother

Now I'm told how I'm allowed to use the thing I spent MY money on

[ICPO]

The only thing i dont really like about this other then the fact that there telling us how to play a game we bought is that if u go on one of these servers without knowing it and get busted and reset before u even know whats going on is that u really didnt know what the server was like but still get busted. I say we boycot this and stand firm.....or we could just go along with it since there really is not anything wa can do about it.:cry:

[Scoobing]

They want to control the ranked servers how they see fit. If you don't like it I guess you go and buy and unranked server. They control all the ranked servers. I hear that the BH capping flags issue will be addressed in 1.03.

I don't see it as EA telling you how to play the game, they are telling you how you must play the game if you play on one of their ranked servers, which they have the full power and control over. If you don't like that, then yes, you are forced to play on an unranked server. It's their system, and their rules, thats never going to change.

And as for your point 7, yes your stats will get reset to 0, and this is your warning.

[ICPO]

Hold on how can they do this?
1) We paid for the game didn't we?
2) We paid for the server didn't we?
3) What's wrong with it?
4) How does this effect EA?
5) What about people who use Blackhawks to rack up points?
6) Closing Knife/Pistols servers isn't going to stop people from going to regular servers and do it.
7) What do they mean by reset stats? does that mean back to 0? will they tell us to stop before they do it?
8) Whenever EA hosts all the RANKED server without making ANYONE pay they can make all the rules but if people are paying for there ranked server it's their server
I agree, if there going to do something like this then get rid of blackhawk whoring. And besides you're right, how can they tell us what to do with something we bought?!?!?!:mad:

[ICPO]

I hear that the BH capping flags issue will be addressed in 1.03.
From what i've heard all there going to do is make it a little more difficult for them to do it not make it so u can't take bases with blackhawks.

[Scoobing]

But when people purchased the ranked servers from EA they knew full well that EA would not allow the servers to be modified in any way. Wasn't this clearly stated from the start? So people knew what they were getting into.

You buy a ranked server and the only thing you can edit is the map cycle, I knew this from the release.

[Scoobing]

From what i've heard all there going to do is make it a little more difficult for them to do it not make it so u can't take bases with blackhawks.

Well we'll wait and see, I don't know any more than you do, we can see who's right and the winner get's a virtual cookie.

[ICPO]

Well we'll wait and see, I don't know any more than you do, we can see who's right and the winner get's a virtual cookie.
:rock: ALL RIGHT:rock: I LOVE VIRTUAL COOKIES! And im just repeating what ive heard on the message boards here.

[Flying Vortex]

It is kind of BS though Scoobing. I mean like some people have said.. We pay for the game and the server, yet we cant even do SOME things on UnRANKED Server

[Scoobing]

Yeah, I agree, it's not a fantastic setup they have going here.

[ICPO]

It isn't i agree but one would have thought one could do what one wants with one's own game and server without the fear of having one's stats reset.

[Scoobing]

Well stats is one area they want to have as much control over as possible in order to police the system better.

[ICPO]

Well stats is one area they want to have as much control over as possible in order to police the system better.I dont mind that like cracking down on point farming and blackhawk whoring but why control the entire server?

[BLeh]

But when people purchased the ranked servers from EA they knew full well that EA would not allow the servers to be modified in any way. Wasn't this clearly stated from the start? So people knew what they were getting into.

You buy a ranked server and the only thing you can edit is the map cycle, I knew this from the release.


Hold on then why are Ranked server SO MUCH more expensive then unranked? Why should I pay more for a server that I can't even admin the way I want? I mean I can go and play on ranked server but when I pay for my ranked server I want to have some control...

[Scoobing]

It's a good question, and I don't have an answer. :)

[Death Touch]

I do think ti's a step in the right direction regarding GAMEPLAY, BUT everyone knows that the the Stat point systemm is total BS. You get 500 points and you're a Corporal, after that it's LAnce Corporal, right? You get there after 1000 points and you unlock a weapon , right?

BUT THEN, its like 10,000 points or something to get to the next rank!

AND, certain Awards and Ribbons you WILL NEVER, EVER SEE!!!!

The criteria for getting these awards are ludicrous at best!

So, in a way I sympathize and kind of condone those who lock their server and stat pad, hell, how else will you EVER get those ranks and medals and unlocks????
Not even if you play EVERY DAY for 10 -15 hours straight will you get these awards and unlocks, it will take YEARS AND YEARS.

Frankly, from this standpoint, yes, this IS total BullF*&^%($S2!

[{RR}Kohbo]

PLaying mmorpgs is a good example to bring into this. Not only do you pay for the game but you also pay to keep playing. Pretend every character is a server. Each character cannot run around and do w/e they want in this virtual world, i.e. kill random people. As stated above, "They agree to the terms". A few weeks ago there was a post about certain rules ranked servers had to abide by. I think everyone who plays this game is smart enough to know whether or not you're giving people an advantage in getting stats.

[ICPO]

I do think ti's a step in the right direction regarding GAMEPLAY, BUT everyone knows that the the Stat point systemm is total BS. You get 500 points and you're a Corporal, after that it's LAnce Corporal, right? You get there after 1000 points and you unlock a weapon , right?

BUT THEN, its like 10,000 points or something to get to the next rank!

AND, certain Awards and Ribbons you WILL NEVER, EVER SEE!!!!

The criteria for getting these awards are ludicrous at best!

So, in a way I sympathize and kind of condone those who lock their server and stat pad, hell, how else will you EVER get those ranks and medals and unlocks????
Not even if you play EVERY DAY for 10 -15 hours straight will you get these awards and unlocks, it will take YEARS AND YEARS.

Frankly, from this standpoint, yes, this IS total BullF*&^%($S2!
I agree with u. For some medals u need over 4,00 hours play itme. 4,000 HOURS HOW THE F*$& WILL I EVER GET 4,000 F&3$#@* HOURS?!?!?!

[ICPO]

PLaying mmorpgs is a good example to bring into this. Not only do you pay for the game but you also pay to keep playing. Pretend every character is a server. Each character cannot run around and do w/e they want in this virtual world, i.e. kill random people. As stated above, "They agree to the terms". A few weeks ago there was a post about certain rules ranked servers had to abide by. I think everyone who plays this game is smart enough to know whether or not you're giving people an advantage in getting stats.
I'm not saying u should give people advantages but I think people how buys servers should be able to do with them what they want with no guidlines. Its just another gov't cospiracy to control our minds!!! Or they might just want more control over the servers. Who knows?

[BLeh]

You guys should get someone from EA to come down here and answer all of these questions. I don't point farm but I have been on server where you PLAY with just pistols and knives it's not set up where you kill the dude and the other guy revives it's where you go in there and just use those guns and people go around and revive and they get killed noone stops shoting the guy. I mean they have no right to do that and I know that even tho they are going to bust down servers people are still going to go in regular ranked server and do it they will do it for 5 min then play regular then do it again no one is giong to be able to tell that they are point farming

[BLeh]

I'm not saying u should give people advantages but I think people how buys servers should be able to do with them what they want with no guidlines. Its just another gov't cospiracy to control our minds!!! Or they might just want more control over the servers. Who knows?


LOL the government is already controling your minds. this game BF2 IS A HUGE promotion for the army lol. and what I don't get is WHY DOES EA CARE? they already made all of thier money....

[ICPO]

LOL the government is already controling your minds. this game BF2 IS A HUGE promotion for the army lol. and what I don't get is WHY DOES EA CARE? they already made all of thier money....
I KNEW IT THE GOV'T IS TAKING CONTROL OF MY MIND!! Must get rid of bf2..but so addicting...can't bring myself to fill computer with birdshot... can't throw out window. Oh well... TO THE ARMY!!!:salute:

[Scoobing]

Let's bring it back down to reality shall we... :)

[Sweetpea]

Re: some of the preceding arguments...

"I bought this gun with my own money, how can anyone tell me how to use it..."

[imported_G-Capo]

Go EA!

[Scoobing]

Re: some of the preceding arguments...

"I bought this gun with my own money, how can anyone tell me how to use it..."

Good analogy.

[ICPO]

Let's bring it back down to reality shall we... :)
AAAWWWHHH MAN

[Scoobing]

Congrats you guessed my gender, now back on topic please. :)

[ToneDog]

its a good thing EA come out and do something

its annoying after playing hours and go to global ranking find ppl with millions of points
i don't care if u care of ur rank or not but there are ppl out there who do
and those closed up clan exploiter servers are messing up other ppl's fun
they can choose to have fun or not but they can't pile their fun on other ppl's pain

[MEGALADON]

I'm going back to DC & wait for a similer mod!!!!

:mad: :mad: :mad:

[ICPO]

its a good thing EA come out and do something

its annoying after playing hours and go to global ranking find ppl with millions of points
i don't care if u care of ur rank or not but there are ppl out there who do
and those closed up clan exploiter servers are messing up other ppl's fun
they can choose to have fun or not but they can't pile their fun on other ppl's pain
I know im sick of being beaten by point farmers and blackhawk whoreres:confused: who cant really fight so they do that to get points but its always such a good felling to get more points then them and get the goldstar. odds of doing that 999,999,999,999,999:1

[BLeh]

Re: some of the preceding arguments...

"I bought this gun with my own money, how can anyone tell me how to use it..."


HOLD UP. When you buy a gun I am sure you sign a contract which says you can do or can not do certain things am I right? that's why not everyone is aloud to have a gun....
1) When I bought the game the dude who sold it to me didn't say nothing about point farming
2) When I read forums before the game came out I read nothing about point farming
3) When I read the booklet that came with the game I read nothing about point farming
Now that I bought the game knowing that I can do this they go and change the rules? and I am not saying I point farm k people I am just defending this cuz I find that EA is diong a really stupid thing.

[Scoobing]

For you to post this as news when there is NO official statement on the EA site is absolutely careless...when hence it is NOT OFFICIAL news hence the official site thing..

So please now show me a link to this ON EA SITE!!! plz

This information has been sent to Trusted Ranked Server owners only. So wasn't it nice of me to share it?

[Imaginary Turtle]

What I want to know is what if the person on the server was completely innocent? I mean he was just trying to play the game and got stripped of his corporal rank, when he was doing absolutely nothing. What then would happen? Would he send in a complaint and get his rank and stats restored or what?

[Scoobing]

HOLD UP. When you buy a gun I am sure you sign a contract which says you can do or can not do certain things am I right? that's why not everyone is aloud to have a gun....
1) When I bought the game the dude who sold it to me didn't say nothing about point farming
2) When I read forums before the game came out I read nothing about point farming
3) When I read the booklet that came with the game I read nothing about point farming
Now that I bought the game knowing that I can do this they go and change the rules? and I am not saying I point farm k people I am just defending this cuz I find that EA is diong a really stupid thing.

I think that EA were hoping (albiet stupidly) that no-one would point farm. However, people are, so now they have to put these new rules into effect.

[Scoobing]

What I want to know is what if the person on the server was completely innocent? I mean he was just trying to play the game and got stripped of his corporal rank, when he was doing absolutely nothing. What then would happen? Would he send in a complaint and get his rank and stats restored or what?

I don't know, but from now on there should be no such servers, and anyone found on one or running one will be punished by EA as mentioned in the news article.

[BLeh]

Why does noone answer my questions?

[ICPO]

This information has been sent to Trusted Ranked Server owners only. So wasn't it nice of me to share it?
Indeed it was, Indeed it was.

[ICPO]

Why does noone answer my questions?
Because we cant. At least i cant.

[ColdDeath]

for those that think you can lock the server as a clan to farm you cant. ranked server can not be locked. this is the way the game was ment to be played. that is why EA said when the game was released that they have a ranking system that will take over a year of play time to get through. that dont expect people to bs the process and gain 3 ranks in one week. if you think they are bluffing go talk to the [LM] clan they have had members with there stats reset. they are serious and its good.

[ICPO]

What I want to know is what if the person on the server was completely innocent? I mean he was just trying to play the game and got stripped of his corporal rank, when he was doing absolutely nothing. What then would happen? Would he send in a complaint and get his rank and stats restored or what?
Msot likley not because he was caught on the server and they dont know hes innocent.

[Scoobing]

Why does noone answer my questions?

I thought I did, kinda.

[hoofhearted]

I don't know if this will really happen or not, but the thought of 10,000 stat-padders collectively crapping their pants gives me a warm fuzzy.

Suck on it cheaters. :laugh:

[ICPO]

I don't know if this will really happen or not, but the thought of 10,000 stat-padders collectively crapping their pants gives me a warm fuzzy.

Suck on it cheaters. :laugh:
That is a very good point as i'm sick as i've already said of being beaten by these people when i play fair.

[Pvt. Ryan]

Knives and Pistol servers are not only for stat padding. It is more like gladiator arena with intense melee action. I play on a karkand P/K ONLY server and it is fun as hell. No padders either.

[Scoobing]

Yeah you can still have that fun, but it just won't be ranked.

[hoofhearted]

1) When I bought the game the dude who sold it to me didn't say nothing about point farming
2) When I read forums before the game came out I read nothing about point farming
3) When I read the booklet that came with the game I read nothing about point farming


I'm sorry that the guy at the store, the manual and the forums did not tell you to refrain from being ******* and blatently cheeting.

Okay, I'll make it official: On behalf of all people who enjoy this game and don't like to see people cheapin hard-earned points, please refrain from cheeting.

There, you've read it in a forum.

[hoofhearted]

I agree, if there going to do something like this then get rid of blackhawk whoring. And besides you're right, how can they tell us what to do with something we bought?!?!?!:mad:

Did you buy EA's stats servers? Wow, that must have cost a pretty penny. I can't believe that EA is going to tell you how to run your global stats server!!!!!! :mad:

[ICPO]

Did you buy EA's stats servers? Wow, that must have cost a pretty penny. I can't believe that EA is going to tell you how to run your global stats server!!!!!! :mad:
I didn't buy one i just Think u should be able to do what u want with something u bought that isn't going to hurt anyone!:mad:

[Drifter]

i can see it now, all these 24/7 servers like 24/7 Karkand, will be gone..

[Scoobing]

No they won't. Map cycle changes are not prohibited by EA.

[Dr.D]

I dont mind, its fair. Now if they did this for unranked servers that would be another matter...

[BIFF EXPLODER]

i like the way is doing things with this

"if ppl cant play properly... we will make them play properly"

and i'm not being sarcastic on anyway i actually like it :D , i like the way they defend the guys that actually do the right thing and dont live to get points the easy way while some real players play the way it is supposed to,

Exemple i once got to a server 16 player version of strike, when i got there i started running and went up to the middle base where a load of dudes were knifing each others and reviving over and over and over again and the worse of all is that there were guys with guns killing the ones with knives and they were having scores of 600+, i imidiatly left that server after calling them a bunch of names :D didn accomplish anything but made me feel good :p .

and about the blackhawk kids , i found out that beeing commander and anti tank can be very helpfull (kill or try to kill them with anti tank and help from your team and after u kill them just drop some artillary on the landing pad, that way u will get loeads of kills and the annoying bastards will be ****ed as hell hehehe

[Sweetpea]

HOLD UP. When you buy a gun I am sure you sign a contract which says you can do or can not do certain things am I right? that's why not everyone is aloud to have a gun....
1) When I bought the game the dude who sold it to me didn't say nothing about point farming
2) When I read forums before the game came out I read nothing about point farming
3) When I read the booklet that came with the game I read nothing about point farming
Now that I bought the game knowing that I can do this they go and change the rules? and I am not saying I point farm k people I am just defending this cuz I find that EA is diong a really stupid thing.

I've held up; more of a stutter-step in actuality. I haven't read it all myself, and if what I'm about to say is incorrect, then fellow forum-goers have at me. I'm fairly certain EA's behaviour is completely justified as contained in the EULA that we all agreed to prior to installing the game. Just saying...

[imported_iLemon]

Personally, I think it's stupid. Seriously. I've never farmed points and I'm not in a clan. I just think it's ridiculous that they're going to punish people for farming. I mean, look at it in their perspective. EA makes it damn near impossible to rank up without having to stop everything you do in life and play, play, play. I'm not saying that the ranks should be simple to get at; that would make ranking up too easy. But it's just a dumb concept of having to reach the scores you have to reach in order to rank up and get access to a weapon. To make it COMPLETELY fair, you'd have to play 24/7 Karkand, get 100 points a round, and play at LEAST all day (literally) to get anywhere with points. Don't get me wrong, I'm glad there is some sort of an award system in the game, that makes it all the more fun and challenging. Just don't make it so challenging that you have to dedicate your every breath into the game.

stop everything you do in real life? i guess if your only gunna play the game for a month. i plan on playing the game a year or more and think how long it takes is great.

[ICPO]

stop everything you do in real life? i guess if your only gunna play the game for a month. i plan on playing the game a year or more and think how long it takes is great.
I dont really care about the ranks. I mean sure i'd like to rank up but I'm not going to play until my eyes bleed to get enough points. I'll work at my own pace and get there eventually. Keyword EVENTUALLY:rolleyes:

[TVR_Fan]

Yeah we get the picture ICPO you know we not all n00bs.

[ICPO]

Yeah we get the picture ICPO you know we not all n00bs.
DID I EVER CALL ANYONE A NOOB!!! NO GOD D@#$ IT AND I NEVER HAVE AND NEVER WILL BECAUSE I DONT DEMORALIZE PEOPLE GOD D@#$ IT!!!!:mad:

[Jaxx]

K so let me get this straight they are saying if you get caught or are they going to go back in time and research everyones stats? Seems like that would take ages and also take out about 60%-70% of the whole bf2 community. Reset all them stats I doubt it. No one would ever log back in after that happened. Hummm we shall see won't we.

[BLeh]

for those that think you can lock the server as a clan to farm you cant. ranked server can not be locked. this is the way the game was ment to be played. that is why EA said when the game was released that they have a ranking system that will take over a year of play time to get through. that dont expect people to bs the process and gain 3 ranks in one week. if you think they are bluffing go talk to the [LM] clan they have had members with there stats reset. they are serious and its good.

OKAY Ranked servers can be locked all you need is 6 people and a admin they all stat farm and you kick people while they are loading they cannot stop this. I have spent all my summer 2 months playing bf2 from 5 hours a day to 16 hours a day and I am still not a seargent okay and when school starts I will be playing less than a hour a day as in I will never be able to beat the game and I really want to get all the medals, ribbons and guns

[neocitron]

this is general common sense... it's like the people that think stealing music is right... and the moral people who use iTunes store or just go out and buy music...

it doesn't have to be stated... it's common sense that stat padding is cheating since it really does feel like cheating when you do it.

[pastorjames]

I don't think downloading music via BT or mIRC is bad, it's just so much easier to do then drive down to the record store and pay $14 for a CD. That's like $3 of gas wasted there, I only get like 10 mpg in my truck :(

[Buttwipe]

F... U ELECTRONIC ARTS! I HAVE paid for this game so I can play on any Ranked server I want to ! I am not pointfarming or something. If they really reset the stats because of playing on a knife only server me and my gang would move to another game and we would NEVER buy EA crap anymore.

[ProfLiebstrom]

The official line for when you get reset for stat padding is.

"Exploitation of game/service mechanics"

You all agreed to the EULA when you clicked accept. It isn't EA's fault if you didn't read it and get reset or have your server removed because you broke the EULA.

[Apostle]

I've read bits of this thread, it is a long one, and find some peoples comments a bit silly.

You have bought the game yeah, but then you're also using a service (as a player joining a ranked server), subscription free, that is hosted by EA (the stats collecting servers). The stat's have to be equally gained by all players otherwise they mean absolutely nothing, which puts into doubt everybodys global scores whether they've cheated/exploited or not.

You still have the unranked servers to play all these mini-mod's on though. Also just think, unless EA sort out a "unofficial" stat's gathering system ("soon/never"), all the fantastic mod's that will soon be coming out are unranked. You gonna cry then too?

[Scoobing]

Alot of people won't play mods or custom maps alot because then they will have to leave ranked servers. It's sad and means that some maps and mods won't be as popular as they should. Starting to think this whole ranked/unranked server thing has done more harm than good. :(

[imported_iLemon]

K so let me get this straight they are saying if you get caught or are they going to go back in time and research everyones stats? Seems like that would take ages and also take out about 60%-70% of the whole bf2 community. Reset all them stats I doubt it. No one would ever log back in after that happened. Hummm we shall see won't we.

it doesnt take long. you look at peoples best round score. people who have 200+ scores probally were farming.

[David Champion]

Well it's great they are cracking down on this now as it has gotten out of control... but the damage is done, those with great scores now and have really taken advantage of the situation will now just play regularly and be happy with their high stat' points, nothing else to see here mentality more or less.

As for focusing on clans in general I don't like that, that's like focusing on one employee who may or may not have been the culprit instead of the entire staff. You address the entire community plain and simple not the clan community. Yes, there may have been clan incidences but it most likely a clan that is 2-3 kids just creating a clan figuring lets take the Stats' for a loop... I think they need to address the bugs and the inability to change your name first to stop this, if you were able to change your name I honestly think this would be less enticing to Stat-Pad because you would not have to start a new account with a new Clantag to catch up to your now new Clanmates. Yes, I think it's that simple.
I play a few hours a day and do it earnestly and honestly, and yet somehow I feel cheated cuz' people are Stat-Padding like no ones business and yet they start the crack down now when they new about it well in advance.
EA shot themselves in the foot for lack of a better phrase and now they are penalizing everyone for something they new fool well of. It's quite comical actually.

Anyways I got better things to worry about, like gas prices and life.

[David Champion]

it doesnt take long. you look at peoples best round score. people who have 200+ scores probally were farming.

:laugh: :rolleyes:

[Talus]

I am so happy about this change. It gives both sides what they want.

It gives the serious and competitive gamer the chance to compete on an even playing field (ranked servers).

It gives the alternative-gameplay seekers a place to gather (unranked servers) for some varied combat rules and mods.

(and it gives stat padders a kick in the ***)

If you remember before the game was released, they (EA) had clearly stated that ranked servers won't be for everyone. They will be for the best players to compete against one another in a sort-of global 'tournament' with accumulated stats and awards.

They actually meant for the majority of average or casual gamers to play on unranked servers and to have the freedom to mod and alter the rules to their heart's content. Basically, they expected what we had in BFV for unranked servers.

I don't think they realized:

a) that the ranking/stats system would appeal to so many people, including the new players of the series/genre
b) that people would get so addicted to the stats that they would attempt anything to increase their stats with the least effort required.

I like how we have had all sorts of new forum sign-ups since this announcement. All of the stat padders heard through the grapevine that there was a rumour floating around and they came here for answers. They all suddenly become vocal, upstanding gamers who are fighting for 'freedom' to play 'their' game the way they want. They all seem to forget that they can play on unranked knife/pistol servers all they want...funny about that ;)

[StormRavn]

ea can get bent if they think usin a pistol/knife server is paddin. heres a idea why not just fix the damm game through patches instead of worryin about it someone spends hard earned money to host a pistol knife server

[fluffydice]

There is also an article on the theinquirer http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=25870
nothing new in it than we allready know

[Filthy_UK]

This is a knee-jerk solution to a fundamental design problem – the unlocks system sucks.

People don’t stat pad for the rankings, they do it to unlock the weapons.

Weapon unlocks should be skill based not rank based, don’t tell me it cant be done, awards work this way already to some degree.

Give the knife-revivers a sharper/ bigger knife for their unlock, I`ll take my G3 and see you server side.

I don’t care about rank, I want to play the game fairly, skilfully and have fun (not mutually exclusive). But I should be able to unlock the weapons I want by getting skilful in that class, not by the amount of time I spend on-line.

And while I’m on my high horse, a tip for EA and other developers:

If your thinking of messing with (patching) a game, ask yourselves this question:

Does it increase the Fun?

If it doesn’t, don’t do it.

My fun suggestion – Tkers 10 sec punishment: character gains 200Lbs, cant run or go prone, all mouse controls invert.

[fluffydice]

as i said before im not bothered about stats but has anyone seen eXp.ElekTriC !?
His stats were reset. I ask you was it worth it?, the hours of crawling around the floor when you could have used the time to get really good. The funny thing is that he seems not to have realized it, check his revive score after 5 hours of play 114

[ozziegt]

The stats system is a feature of the game that ensures you can see how good you are against other players. It is a community. It is the responsibility of EA / Dice to make sure that this community does not get abused and remains fair. Trying to crack down on stats padding is the only fair solution for ranked servers. Granted this might not be enough because there are other ways to abuse the system, but it's a step in the right direction.

For those of you who are complaining, I ask you...why do you care if you aren't allowed to pad your stats anymore? The "I don't like EA telling me what to do" excuse is BS. See paragraph 1.

[ozziegt]

as i said before im not bothered about stats but has anyone seen eXp.ElekTriC !?
His stats were reset. I ask you was it worth it?, the hours of crawling around the floor when you could have used the time to get really good. The funny thing is that he seems not to have realized it, check his revive score after 5 hours of play 114

How are you checking? His stats are still there on bf2s.com.

[fluffydice]

How are you checking? His stats are still there on bf2s.com.

Nice GUI application for stats

http://bf2sr.com/download.php

Also checked with

http://bf2tracker.com/bf2_userprofile.php?bf2id=43501925

[CTD-Tiwaz]

The stats system is a feature of the game that ensures you can see how good you are against other players. It is a community. It is the responsibility of EA / Dice to make sure that this community does not get abused and remains fair. Trying to crack down on stats padding is the only fair solution for ranked servers. Granted this might not be enough because there are other ways to abuse the system, but it's a step in the right direction.

For those of you who are complaining, I ask you...why do you care if you aren't allowed to pad your stats anymore? The "I don't like EA telling me what to do" excuse is BS. See paragraph 1.

I disagree with your reason on why the stat system was implemented. I believe it was put into the game so EA/Dice could attach goals, like unlockable weapons, to increase the sellability of their own ranked servers.. Then to make a poor system worse, EA/Dice decided to make the stat goals out of reach for all but the elite, jobless, lifeless players..

The reason the goals for gaining ranks, awards and unlocks was made so difficult was to ensure a reason to purchase and maintain a ranked server.. BEcause if all ranks and unlocks could be made within a year all players would just move on to unranked servers, and EA/Dice would lose money.. So we get a screwed up system because of EA's greed.. And we are threatened and intimidated by EA because EA wants ALL our money for crap products..

I believe EA/Dice wouldn't have as big a stat padding problem if the stats weren't connected to unlocking weapons...

So i believe, lets not blame the user for rebelling against a poor governing system; it is our inherited right to rebel. As EA/Dice was given their power by the people, for the people; and the people can take it away..

[imported_iLemon]

how did you come to the conclusion EA was making money off the ranked servers?

[kleomenes]

as i said before im not bothered about stats but has anyone seen eXp.ElekTriC !?
His stats were reset.

Ha! eXp.EleKtriC's stats were wiped! There are other threads somewhere about him. n00b...:)

[ColdDeath]

eXp.ElekTriC was playing on a ranked knife pistol only server and was punished. im sure EA was happy to make a point by using him.

EA should do something about
http://www.bf2s.com/player/44542941/
he has over 500 DAYS of play time. i think some one is hacking the server.....

[^Garf*uk*]

Alot of people won't play mods or custom maps alot because then they will have to leave ranked servers. It's sad and means that some maps and mods won't be as popular as they should. Starting to think this whole ranked/unranked server thing has done more harm than good. :(


100% agree with there m8;)

as 4 me i have not played on unranked servers 4 a very long time

[imported_iLemon]

Alot of people won't play mods or custom maps alot because then they will have to leave ranked servers. It's sad and means that some maps and mods won't be as popular as they should. Starting to think this whole ranked/unranked server thing has done more harm than good. :(

doesnt that just mean the original game is more fun to play then a mod? is that a bad thing? I don't think this will be the case.

[[BTK]SemperFi360]

EA makes some sweet games but at sometimes they act like n00blets (baby noobs)

[BLeh]

I've read bits of this thread, it is a long one, and find some peoples comments a bit silly.

You have bought the game yeah, but then you're also using a service (as a player joining a ranked server), subscription free, that is hosted by EA (the stats collecting servers). The stat's have to be equally gained by all players otherwise they mean absolutely nothing, which puts into doubt everybodys global scores whether they've cheated/exploited or not.

You still have the unranked servers to play all these mini-mod's on though. Also just think, unless EA sort out a "unofficial" stat's gathering system ("soon/never"), all the fantastic mod's that will soon be coming out are unranked. You gonna cry then too?

IF EA RUNS THE SERVER THEY CAN DO WHAT EVER BUT IF I RUN THE SERVER IT'S MY MONEY MY SERVER MY RULES WHAT PART OF THAT DON'T YOU PEOPLE UNDERSTAND????

[Scoobing]

But EA run the servers that run the stat system. Understand?

[imported_DANK]

Oh man its a daycare center around these forums these days.

[BLeh]

No, the money that we pay for the servers goes towards the stat servers...

[dub]

I think {RR}Kohbo put it the best way, (http://www.totalbf2.com/forums/member.php?u=7819) when comparing it to the MMORPG worlds.
If you allow this sort of behaviour you devalue the points system all together, further lessening interest in the game all together.
The reason these MMORP games are successfull are because to the players the points, ranks, whatever actually mean something - if they did'nt there'd be no interest in getting them and no interest in the game.

If you had people running around in a MMORPG doing what ever they pleased in what ever fashion, getting points and experience in 'un sportsman like manner'(or what ever these MMORPG do to grow in rank) then the game would just die because the time spent getting your experience and points would be devalued by the idiots that get it the easy way. Someone that worked hard to get their rank etc. would just feel cheated and loose interest in the game.
I bet WoW is just as tightly policed and this is why they have such a large community. They have to play by the rules, so that getting their points are actually worth something.

And 'no', if you run around doing what ever you like (just because you spent money on the game) because you are destroying the fun of people who are abbiding by the rules.... and they, funnily enough also spent their money on the game.
You have freedom to do what you like, as long as it does'nt infringe on other peoples freedoms.

For those who want to play special rules (knife and handgun etc.) why is it an issue, playing on a non-ranked server then? No one cares about that and you would'nt be anoying the players that got their stats 'the legal' way.
Knock yourselve's out healing and killing each other forcing people to kill each other with nothing but a fork... oh wait... not as fun anymore is it, when you're not pi**ing off other players...

Allowing the sort of behaviour that EA is now prohibiting, would result in a quick demise of the game IMHO as the stats would mean bugger all... anyone with high stats (etc.) would just be passed off as a points farmer.
So the guy with the high stats who got them 'legally' is pi**ed off because his hard earned points now mean jack... and why bother getting them in the first place, if you could just go onto a random server and farm them the easy way.

If that happens, what's the point in all the zillions of stat sigs, stats sites and weapons unlocks etc. which are partially a reason for this large community? (you see? It would render a whole portion of the game useless)
Sure you might not personally care at all for stats... but then go play on un-ranked servers, and do what the heck you want to - point solved.

EA will never totally be able to police this, granted, but it's better than them doing F'all about the matter.
(On a side note, I reckon all the un-ranked servers should be able to have all weapons unlocked [is this actually the case? I don't know])

[BLeh]

umm I don't play MMORPG but I am %100 sure that there are players who use lope holes to gain level and from what I hear in WOW it doesn't take 2 years to get to level 60 and also this is a FPS game which is way different from all of those MMORPG...... If you have BF2 go to leaderboard and look at the first guy 100000+ global score the best teamwork 70000+ and his over all is 80000+ that's point farming I didn't point farm untill last week and I no longer do it but I still want to catch up to those guys whenever all of those guys stats gets back to zero I will stop arguing against this...

[DimmuBorgir]

Flame Post Flamse Post

[Talus]

I didn't point farm untill last week and I no longer do it but I still want to catch up to those guys whenever all of those guys stats gets back to zero I will stop arguing against this...

Gee...I never would have guessed you were a point farmer... :rolleyes:

Thanks for the admission. Don't cry when your stats are reset.

[Xatruch]

The only thing that really ****es me off about this is the fact that EA is telling us how to play a game we purchased. IMO I think its ridicuous.

Its ok if you were to play in single player, but not when it affects a community.

[Diesel_Power]

You Rock Ea!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[BLeh]

Gee...I never would have guessed you were a point farmer... :rolleyes:

Thanks for the admission. Don't cry when your stats are reset.

What are you talking about as soon as I read this post I stoped doing it..... That's why I am here and fighting against it so then it wont be "illegal". For them to be able to "reset" my stats first they have to catch me in the act since I don't do it no more I don't think it's possible for them to reset my stats

[Havik89]

I'm glad. Hopefully that puts an end to these pistols/knifes only ranked servers. I'm sure they're fun but you can do that on unranked servers.

You all knew there were rules that went with ranked servers.

[BLeh]

You all knew there were rules that went with ranked servers.

first of all I didn't and second how did you get a kill streak of 40?

[ConscriptVirus]

i guess its pretty fiar

[BH|Recon]

first of all I didn't and second how did you get a kill streak of 40?


not being aware isnt an excuse :P.. when u run a server its your job to be aware of these things :P

[Bongwater]

so does this include if u play on cqb ervers (close quarter battles) where u have 16 player maps with 64 players.?

[Scoobing]

No it doesn't apparently.

[fluffydice]

Now official on EA's website

http://www.eagames.com/official/battlefield/battlefield2/us/editorial.jsp?src=servermessage

[Scoobing]

Could have done with that earlier when a load of people didn't believe us. ;)

[PoRn_DarkAngel]

EA has no business getting involved with anything till they can fix the damn game in my opinion. The more you play BF2 the more apperent all of the flaws seem. Its sad that they did not learn after all the patches they had to make for BFV.

Secondly, all this ranked crap is gay to begin with. It amazes me how many people care about this ribbon/badge crap. BFV Tracks was a far better system. The only stat I care about is KDR, which is all about owning all the ribbon/badge loving fools.

[BF2-Dude]

Im glad they finally put it on the site. that is cool, now all those in disbelieve can see for themselves. I hope the patch comes out soon......

[$oulo]

Secondly, all this ranked crap is gay to begin with. It amazes me how many people care about this ribbon/badge crap. BFV Tracks was a far better system. The only stat I care about is KDR, which is all about owning all the ribbon/badge loving fools.

We have a winner! :D Finally someone else thats normal ;)

[Funnylookingteddybear]

Ea have every reason to get involved with the game. They paid millions to develop it and they want a good return for their cash. If they let this game go to the dogs then they have lost the biggest money earning franchise they ever had. The scoring system needs to have rules, otherwise what is the point. I personally enjoy playing by the rules as it gives me a sense of achievment. I bought this game so ergo I wish to abide by it's boundarys. I wish to progress throught the ranks and earn my stripes and respect of my fellow gamers in an honest and decent fashion. I fully understand that any system can be exploited as has obviously happened in this instance with point farming. It is an exploit that I really hope EA can view as a problem and come up with workable solution. Ranked servers should be bullet proof and quite possibe opened out to a greater portion of the community to 'police'. As was mentioned earlier in one post about MMorpg's you do get some exploiting the system ( more predominatly in WoW, it's far too popular for it's own good) But they are also self policing. High ranking mambers keep control of ranked servers and quel any 'farming' and trouble making.

BF2 would benefit greatly from more comminity interaction rather than EA trying to sort it themselves all the time. Allow some responsibility to pass to the players themselves and those that care about the structure and intergrity of gaming. We have, after all, payed for the damn thing. But having said that, I have just given myself a problem. I was going to say about the voting system and how it should be more . . . . easy? Nay, accesable. More obvious? You see, I have thought myself into a problem for which I have no solution. In games such as Counter Strike for instance, the gaming area is enclosed enough for you to get to know Tk's or haxxors. You can get rid of them swiftly and easily. But in BF2, the gaming is so spreadout and frenetic I rarely pay any attention to others points or actions except on the odd occasion. In fact I have yet to find a server that I like and I feel there is a good community spirit.

I dunno, I am waffling now. I enjoy this game. I enjoy it's scope and it's gameplay. It annoys the hell out of me at times and I don't like (I was going to say cheats) exploiters of the system. But I am just one punter out of thousands and I have neither the voice or the expertise to do anything about it . . .

I'll shut up now.

[redrider]

It seems to the ones against this stat reset thing are the guys with high scores that "dont stat pad" and the ones for it are the ones like me who play hard and seem to never, or very rarely be able to get a jet, chopper, tank etc. I think I might be averageing around 15 to 20 points a game on a good day. This crack down needs to be expanded however to more areas. A good example is the player who is commander and flys around in a jet and gets his awards by being credited for being anti- tank, assult, etc. without actually having more than a few minutes on the ground. I have been makeing a list of some of these guys and hunting them (I also like to hunt snipers) and killing them as much as possible, as they usually suck when caught on the ground. They are most easily caught at the jet or attack chopper spawns after someone rams them, you can tell you have one cause they whine a lot after the ram. I caught one (name removed) yesterday and killed him with my granade launcher in one shot, got called a noob and I laughed all day about it. My reply was " yes Im a noob and your dead". If this sargent (name removed) was that good with his 30 thousand plus points how could a noob kill him? .......Easily...LMAO

[redrider]

Back on subject. All games have rules and sometimes the rules need to be tweeked to maintain the game creators Idea of how the game is supposed to work. So shut up and play inside the rules, whatever they may be and have fun. If you dont like them dont play. Yes the game has problems, maybe they will get fixed. Untill then we are stuck with it as it is. Oh and the knife and pistol thing on ranked servers I say why not, I feel it should be ok for basic badge, IMO.

[Funnylookingteddybear]

Yes. That was what I was trying to say. Except for this Knife pistol thing of which I have no experiance so therefore no comment upon.

By buying the game I have subscribed to the game concept, therefore I play by the rules. The point being if you feel the need to 'pad' or 'farm' then I have to ask are you playing for the right reasons?

The game concept for BF2 is great. Fly choppers, drive tanks, be infantry, the scope is tremendous. I think more respect shouold be paid for those who develop the skills to play as a sniper or as a chopper pilot (as I am trying to be, when I get the chance) so long as your playing within the remit of teamplay. Of which this game is all about.

Everyone knows that a good squad can rock, beit that they are scattered in choppers, tanks and whotnot, but, they play as a team.

That is how I wanna play. To be honest my own point scoring is almost a side issue to the feelings I get when I succesfully play an active role as a squad member, or even as an intergral part of the army.

But this is an issue that will always dog games like this. It is grand in scope and grand in subscription. As a result you will always get the less saluberous game players who like nothing more than to cheat their way to the highest score. Not my way, but what can I do about it. I would love to be a part of a progressive clan or server team but alas, being a family man, my schedule does not allow me anything other than the random choice of playing whats available at the time.

Still, it's a good game for all this points business. So if you ever see Funnybear on a server you know he is a team player and that he rocks at choppers.

[$oulo]

Everyone knows that a good squad can rock, beit that they are scattered in choppers, tanks and whotnot, but, they play as a team.

That is how I wanna play. To be honest my own point scoring is almost a side issue to the feelings I get when I succesfully play an active role as a squad member, or even as an intergral part of the army.



That and you don't wanna end up with one flag and getting raped for the rest of the round. That is just annoying. :laugh: You should try and play in a team bud, an actual Match is WAAAAY more intense and ALOT MORE FUN. The game takes on a whole new life. ;) It's just ALOT of fun man really. Sounds like it's right up your alley the way you wanna play and enjoy playing is exactly what it's all about.

[KryCek.x]

about time stat junkies got some harsh medicine!!

[Luis_Wu]

I like the ranking and it's good that EA is taking the whole stat padding thing seriously. This kind of stance give ranking some value that would otherwise require a ranking and cash to ride public transport. :D

[Funnylookingteddybear]

I must admit I also like the stat system. I like the feeling of getting somewhere and advancing in rank. I think it could have been better implemented but how it should be done I cannot say. I would also love to get onto the match circuit and play some proper games but like I said with babies, 5 year olds and girlfriends, I cannot dedicate that amount of time purely for playing games.

Just for instance I was playing last night on some server or other and the guys BH whoring where racking up 150+ each round. EACH ROUND! I could hardly get above 50 and I'm not a tardy player. The top rank scorer of the BH guys was tripping in 190 on each round. ON EACH ROUND. Over three rounds thats nearly 600 points. I'm all for using strategies and tactics that can 'help' a little but when the average score is around 30-50, 190 is just taking the ****.

Still, this is old ground. It would be nice to see it evened out a bit though.

[$oulo]

You can take the BH's down EASILY if everyone used the jeeps to shoot it down. Normally that doesnt happen everyone just runs around like idiots and gets slaughtered by the BH instead of trying to take it down. They think they can ***** or complain it down. If a BH has engy's in it you need more than just one jeep to take it down.

[Wtiberon]

EA has no business getting involved with anything till they can fix the damn game in my opinion. The more you play BF2 the more apperent all of the flaws seem. Its sad that they did not learn after all the patches they had to make for BFV.

Secondly, all this ranked crap is gay to begin with. It amazes me how many people care about this ribbon/badge crap. BFV Tracks was a far better system. The only stat I care about is KDR, which is all about owning all the ribbon/badge loving fools.


I use to admin a ladder community and one of the biggest pain in our arses was players padding their stats. Sadly the game manufacturer couldn't care less and refused to lend any help whatsoever so it caused us admins to work over time to find and expel these players. Its great that a manufacturer is getting involved to keep the spirit of the game alive and not letting it fall into the hands of cheats.

I've worked on a couple beta/alpha teams for games and I can tell you programmers do ALOT of work to get these games up and running. Especially games of this quality I can only imagine the hard work and hours they put into it. The problem is that even with all this work things get missed. Even with hundreds of beta testers you can't spot every single problem that millions of users can.

So whine all you want but I give a big thumbs up to EA for this.

[I Hate TKpunishers]

I wonder what EA thinks about admins forcing non-clan people to relinquish vehicles/equipment, and kicking them when they do not comply.....

[$oulo]

? Wow wtf? I have never heard of that before...... Admin's actually do that uh? HAHA wow..... Thats what the ranking system has caused. People finding ways around the systen will be there no matter how many times they patch the game. Why anyone cares BESIDES the fact that they can get commander over you is a wonder to me. Worry about yourself and not what so and so is doing. If you catch them doing something then kill them deal with the TK's who cares. Everyone's rank is for thier own personal thing, alot of people could careless about what rank they are they just want to unlock something new. Some people do care about medals and blabla but really they do nothing for you. So whats the point?

[mrbucket]

? Wow wtf? I have never heard of that before...... Admin's actually do that uh? HAHA wow..... Thats what the ranking system has caused. People finding ways around the systen will be there no matter how many times they patch the game. Why anyone cares BESIDES the fact that they can get commander over you is a wonder to me. Worry about yourself and not what so and so is doing. If you catch them doing something then kill them deal with the TK's who cares. Everyone's rank is for thier own personal thing, alot of people could careless about what rank they are they just want to unlock something new. Some people do care about medals and blabla but really they do nothing for you. So whats the point?

Yeah, EA/Dice had a good idea with rankings and what-not. But it is based on a general scale instead of personal accomplishment based scale. Meaning, pts are given for revive for medic but with a point factor, not 5 different guys revived. Of course it was exploited. Almost all weapon classes can be exploited to a certain extent. Some more than others. The point is, the game should be based on playing and only playing. Not point farming. People are so crazy with points they forgot this is a team based game. Some Squads have their sh*t down and its good to have those guys. But it's frustrating to run up against them and have your guys bail on you, and there you are alone defending a base! God sometimes i just wanna pick my mouse up over my head and smash it to pieces on my desk because of the bad squad members. LOL.

[imported_Demon6]

Since medic is getting points for revival and healing and engineer for repairing and mining it is kinda stupid that Special Force do not get point for blowing artillery and command trailer up. It would be nice to get a point or two for it.

Point farming is stupid and I support EA in their decision to punish ranked server that supported foul play. Gamers that like that kind of playing can go to unranked servers and play anyway they like it.

[BocKinG]

i say good on EA if the game was meant to be played like that they would have created it that way