Hurricane Katrina Disaster Relief

[Ace101]

As most of you know already, the New Orleans area has been tragically hit by a major hurricane causing the city to flood. Currently, 85% of the city is underwater. Hundreds of people have lost their lives and many of them are in need of help. I am asking everyone who reads this post, to please donate anything you can to the American Red Cross. Whether is 5 dollars or 50 dollars, anything will help.<br><br>To donate to the American Red Cross, please click <a href="http://www.redcross.org/">this link</a>. To donate to the United Way Hurricane Katrina Response Fund, please click <a href="http://national.unitedway.org/">here.</a> I thank each and every one of you for your generosity.

[imported_-=| Foley |=-]

I plan to donate whatever US funds I have right now, i'd love to donate my services but I know that's not going to happen, i'm up here in Canada.

[Ace101]

I am pretty sure that if you donate by credit card, it does not matter what country you are form. Please correct me if I am wrong :confused:

[`danny]

That's good that you guys posted something like that, good luck to all the people down in L.A.!

[Syndicate]

Wow im surprised that this hasn't attracted many comments but im doing my part by helping donate some money to the disaster relief. I dont know to be angry or sad but i feel both 1. I am sad and feel sorry for the people who are dead and the people who are stranded right now. 2. I feel mad becuase of all the fighting and shootings that have been hapening. Also what makes me mad is all those looters took clothes and shoes, they should have thought about there families and wealth rather than worrying about some new nikes off the shelf. Shows some people dont really care.

[-TSF-Gen. Romano]

I hope that everything gets better for the victims of this tragedy, I can't even believe what they are going through right now.

[Dark Kai]

I know what these people are living. I live in Puerto Rico and we constantly get hammered by hurricanes, but our infranstructure and seweres help the flooding go away. Sadly they weren't ready for this... and It was a category 5 hurricane, which we haven't had in years. Please try to donate and help them out for I know how it feels to be hit with such a devastating blow.

[Hyrup]

Wow!

This is very cool of you all to be posting on the forums about the whole hurricane sitiuation.I really give my props out to everyone.

Also over here in Michigan there doing tons of drives and what not to help out everyone that was in the Hurricane.... soooooo At least were all helpin




Out! http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v329/Decade1218/gaytard.gif

[-(PK)-DarkIllusion]

i'm donating 50 buks:D thats all i have right now:cry:

[KiLL3rStr0GG]

i woulda thought the most powerful country in the world woulda reacted better to this situation than they have. they seem to have deserted the poor people. they need all the help they can get

[Haas]

I follow the news about this and the thing i really don't udnerstand why a country like USA let poeple starve to dead.....
It's just stupid where is that big army of the USA?

[LeipeDruyl]

I'm very sorry for all the people that have become a victim of this hurricane, and the US-policy. My thoughts are with those victims....

Strangly enough, the US-government has been warned for big hurricanes like this, but still they reduce funds to prevent this, so they can pay for the war in iraq. I'm sorry to see that the (so called) righest country in the world rather spend money on "illegal" wars, instead of helping their own people......

I hope this hard lesson brings them back to reality, like it did with all the people in the New Orleans-area. For once: may God be with the USA.....

[Haas]

hmm look at this

http://hughesforamerica.typepad.com/hughes_for_america/2005/08/august_2930_200.html

[David Champion]

Give Blood. That's all I have to say.

[TaTorT]

LOL USA spending billions and billions for wars based on lies, and now the USA red cross asks for money when something happens in their own country.Ask your government for money...

[$G-MONEY SMITH$]

lol i guess 10.5 billion dollars that just passes through the senate isnt money? thats so much i couldnt even fathom what i could do with that... i feel so bad for tehse people. i live in florida and am suffering from insane gas prices. wich isnt even close to what the people in new orleans and misisipi are going through i cant even begin to understand how this can happin to the US i mean i begin to question wether bush has what it takes. i mean could you imagine leaving your home for a hurricane and realizing you have nuthing to go back to? NUTHING peoples lives are completly destroyed its unbelieveable. i wish i could do something but i cant because im not rich and these gas prices arnt helping. god dman we just need to get the **** out of iraq...:mad: :cry:

[David Champion]

Its terrible what has happened out there and my thoughts are with familys those affected by this tragic natural disaster. Ill happily donate also. To those ignorant morons using this as an attack on the validity of the iraq war...you make me sick....and LeipeDruyl(whatever that supposed to mean)...try spending less time shagging hoes, smoking weed and popping pills, someday you may know whats really going on in the world!

Indeed! Get with the times.
Tsunami Relief?, Ever hear of that.

My god show some compassion, heaven forbid something like this happens in your area but when and if it did and your world was ripped from you, you'd readily have your hands out for help now wouldn't you?

Take the blinders off and open your eyes.

It takes nothing to donate, clothes you already have, towels, medical supplies, Bottled water, can goods, rope, tents, Wood, shoes... It's not all about money, money, money... Hell give blood too. Cripes!

[PFC_Kiriakis]

i'm donating 50 buks:D thats all i have right now:cry:
Every dollar counts and thats a generous offer you gave. You should feel good:)

[zrulli]

My family donated $100 to the Red cross. I just pray.

[imported_davidklaw]

My employer is awesome, they sent out a company wide email and are going to match all our donations! Donate whatever you can guys because every little bit counts.

[-D3AL3R-]

This whole thing has got me very depressed, I'm way up here in New Hampshire and I feel so useless and I can't help out any way, I don't have money to donate, but my mother is part of an emergency relief team that has been called to help and she has been located down in Beluxi or how ever you spell it. I was very upset when I heard that funding for the city repairs such as the levees were cut a year ago by Bush. Way to go smacktard.

[TAZMAN-SOD-]

this was a horrific disaster. Our squad has a member who lives in the area. we finally heard from him last night. He survived the hurricane, but has not had anything to eat or drink for a couple of days. Our prayers are with everyone involved with this disaster and the hopes that many families that are missing loved ones will soon find them. GOD BLESS EVERY AMERICAN IN THE NEW ORLEANS AND MISSISSIPPI AREA.

[||Animal||]

Don't you just love how the people on here that talk sh1t about America never list their own location? Cowards. Hell, have a pair, toss your address up on your profile. We'll see how big and bad you are when you don't have anonymitiy.

It's amazing that these idiots tell us to send money to Africa and call us selfish when no nation in the world donates more money to Africa than we do. Actually, our government donates more money to Africa than any government and our private charities donate more money to Africa than any other nation's private charities do. In fact, we've given money and manpower to help in damn near every natural disaster globally. What more would you have us do?

Where is the rest of the world when we suffer a natural disaster? Celebrating in the streets... That's fine. We'll survive on our own charity and hard work. Just don't come calling when the sh1t hits the fan in your sh1tstain of a country.

To those offering your support and kind words, thank you. We appreciate it more than you may realize.

[imported_Atasagun]

sorry for all the people in NO, but me thinks people didnt realize the disaster sooner maybe because most of the population is black and poor :rolleyes: TV stations were still showing the lost hoe in Aruba couple of days only recently things changed.

[Munchies]

Actually the US rejected foriegn aid from several countries.

[Munchies]

Actual death toll in iraq is more like 120,000.

[David Champion]

Going completely off topic this thread needs closing

[Badlizzard2]

Please people, stop forwarding your political agendas in here. This is not the time nor the place to start your little petty arguments.

[alistah]

oh, bad stuff. Umm, surprised that totalbf2.com has got this topic and so many replied, would donate money if I knew what they'd do with it, nothing has been done yet. They're thinking of driving a barge into the hole in the bridge to stop the flooding.

Umm, if people want sattelite pictures of the world including New Orleans (not updated to Hurrican Katrina yet) then search for Google Earth and download it, I found my house, friends houses, things i knew. Download it and go to New Orleans.

[imported_slijkhuis]

i just donated 750 USD to that fund.... I know how it is to be hit by a hurricane (Hurricane Ivan) and i give all the people in that area, all my luck they need...

Take Care!

- SlijkhuiS

[Dre]

I'm happy that TotalBF2 took my suggestion (http://www.totalbf2.com/forums/showthread.php?t=28335) to heart. Thanks for that. I would like to suggest a button like the one we're using at Suburban Warfare.net (http://www.suburbanwarfare.net/index.php):

http://www.redcross.org/images/psabanners/all/120x60/D1.gif

This will solve the problem of politcal comments and possible flame wars.

Thanks.

[sav112]

The thing that’s annoying us here in Scotland is we have one of the best disaster relief teams and able to organize Medical supplies and Aid and we did great work with the Tsunami and guess what happened We got told we were not needed…..

So I dare say there’s a few of us here with the “well stuff them attitude”, and by the news reports it looks embarrassing for the US, looks like nothing is being done to any great effect or organized.

The Scale is not like that of last Decembers but if a country offers you help you accept it.

[Ice_Man]

In reply to those that believe we dont support our own people. The Navy's red cross ship, that costs billions to run is being moved to the gulf. So no, our government is not helping. 11,000 national guardsmen are currently on state duty in the effected areas. 1 and a half million MRE's have been sent and are being distributed throughout the area. Several military MP's are patroling to stop looting, along with the possibility of hundreds of troops being deployed, a large number of troops is rare to happen in natural disasters. More and more rescue helicopters from the military are being flown around to rescue people from their roofs and remote area's. So no, our government isnt doing anything. An aircraft carrier and other naval vessels are being used for helicopter landings. Along with the billions of dollars that congress is passing. So tell me, how is our government idle on this disaster? You all must not be able to imagine how difficult it is to rescue thousands from a flooded area, where the oh so very smart people get trapped in their attics, where you cant see them to rescue them. Plus things that people in our country are doing to help. So shut up about our government not doing anything, cause were doing a lot more then any other country could do for themselves.

[sav112]

Yes your government has woken up; the Military machine will no doubt get up to speed.

But considering there was three days prior warning of possible disaster the initial response for a country of the Size of the USA was well ridiculously poor.

“President George Bush has condemned the initial response to Hurricane Katrina as "not acceptable", before arriving in Alabama to visit the stricken area.”

[CTD-Tiwaz]

Yes your government has woken up; the Military machine will no doubt get up to speed.

But considering there was three days prior warning of possible disaster the initial response for a country of the Size of the USA was well ridiculously poor.

“President George Bush has condemned the initial response to Hurricane Katrina as "not acceptable", before arriving in Alabama to visit the stricken area.”

Yes. Poor planning that alot of *******es didn't leave New ORleans when they had the chance... Now the people that really couldn't leave; those in hospitals, are stuck without care because a bunch of make-shift gangs are shooting at the relief help.. New ORleans was a crap city in the past, and this could be God's way of relieveing the USA of dead weight..

Don't forget, the state of LA. has to send in a request for aid to the federal government.

I listened to Ray Nagin, the Mayor of NEw Orleans, he cussed and blamed everyone else for the problems in New ORleans; at this point i lost almost all my sympathy for his/thier situation; except for those stuck in hospitals, who honestly had no way to leave the city before the hurricane..

[Cerro]

Well, when you see a category 5 hurricane stomping towards your house, you prepare for the worst, don't you?
You make sure you have emergency relief in place just outside the projected path of the storm ready to be flown in once the weather allows...

This is, however, not the time to play the blame game but the time to go to work and solve the problem. The why and who to blame will come afterwards.

The rest of the western world is on standby, ready to move in with all sorts of emergency aid, they're just waiting for an official request by the US government....
Sweden for instance is packing a hercules with 2 watertreatment plants, enough to provide 15000 people with 7 litres of fresh water per day... Not much in the scheme of things unless you happen to be one of those 15000 people.....

I don't believe in God or in prayers as such but my thoughts are with the people who suffer from this disaster.

[fluffydice]

Well, when you see a category 5 hurricane stomping towards your house, you prepare for the worst, don't you?
You make sure you have emergency relief in place just outside the projected path of the storm ready to be flown in once the weather allows...

This is, however, not the time to play the blame game but the time to go to work and solve the problem. The why and who to blame will come afterwards.

The rest of the western world is on standby, ready to move in with all sorts of emergency aid, they're just waiting for an official request by the US government....
Sweden for instance is packing a hercules with 2 watertreatment plants, enough to provide 15000 people with 7 litres of fresh water per day... Not much in the scheme of things unless you happen to be one of those 15000 people.....

I don't believe in God or in prayers as such but my thoughts are with the people who suffer from this disaster.


Well said, the US needs support not criticizing. Our thoughts are with you aswell from Norway.

[dyin]

Don't you just love how the people on here that talk sh1t about America never list their own location? Cowards. Hell, have a pair, toss your address up on your profile. We'll see how big and bad you are when you don't have anonymitiy.

It's amazing that these idiots tell us to send money to Africa and call us selfish when no nation in the world donates more money to Africa than we do. Actually, our government donates more money to Africa than any government and our private donate more money to Africa than any other nation's private charities do. In fact, we've given money and manpower to help in damn near every natural disaster globally. What more would you have us do?

Where is the rest of the world when we suffer a natural disaster? Celebrating in the streets... That's fine. We'll survive on our own charity and hard work. Just don't come calling when the sh1t hits the fan in your sh1tstain of a country.

To those offering your support and kind words, thank you. We appreciate it more than you may realize.

1) I'm Manu, live in Belgium, and I am really really sad for what is going on there :cry: . But I am even more angry about the fact that bush spends so mutch more money on weapons and wars but forgets to do the things that are needed to prevent these things (allthough he was warned). He doesn't even feel real simpaty for the people in need. This shows the stupidity of the president (who even got re-elected :rolleyes: )

2) The EU helps allot more to people in need than the US. An example of this was the tsunami: the EU initialy gave 10 times more money than the US, but due to the fact that the US didn't want to loose its face it made a similar offer (and this even excludes the private offers, witch were even higher). So don't try tell me that 'allmighty' US spends allot on charity because, in comparison to the money it spends on wars, it sux.

[{RR}MaizeMyDay]

This is one of those natural disasters that nobody really expects because many of us have never been through a storm of this magnitude. It's just too hard to comprehend...you can only imagine it.

Normally, a hurricane passes and the water normally drains off soon afterward. In this case, however, the roads are still filling with water days after the storm! For a relief worker it's a never ending burden you can't workaround unless you have a boat or a helicopter.

On top of that...


Power is out
Phones are out
Cell phones don't work (towers rely on electricity)
Drinking water is out or contaminated
Food is rotten
People can't commicate
The levy breaks after the hurricane
People can't swim
People are starving to death


The list continues. One thing is for sure. The state, local & federal emergency workers are absolutely not equipped enough to operate normally in a flooded city that continues to fill.

They will have to rewrite the textbooks for this one.

[David Champion]

Thanks to whomever has taken the time to get all the negative posts out of this thread!

[Ace101]

Yes, please guys, try not to make this a political arguement thread. That just makes things worse :(

[reaver]

Donated 50 bucks today.

[Cargoslug]

awww.. I dont think that red cross site has paypal. Other wise I would of donated $20 bucks but. I'm 14 so I dont have a credit caard or anything so paypal was my only hope:( :cry: . I'm glad my parents donated tho :D

[Marconus]

Donating money is a very good way to show support to our country. But my advice to all those donating, think twice before donating to the Red Cross. They tried to hold the money for themselves during the 9-11 incident.

[imported_BaronViolence]

I just made my donation to the United Way's Hurricane Katrina Response Fund.

http://national.unitedway.org/

[=HPSF=Dr.Doom]

Done, hope it helps. Borders aren't important at times like this :)

[imported_G-Capo]

Finally a thread like this has been posted.

[Ace101]

I just made my donation to the United Way's Hurricane Katrina Response Fund.

http://national.unitedway.org/

I will post that link too, thanks..

[Dawson_21(SAS)]

Over here in the UK we don't have weather as serious as that... although we have had bad flooding in the past. I couldn't believe it when I watched the news reports on the BBC, you can count on my british support - £30 donated.

God be with them.

Another donation link via the Salvation Army disaster fund http://www.salvationarmyusa.org/USNSAHome.htm

[shadow_wolf]

Im happy to say that in Michigan we have activated our emergency operation center and are going to coordinate a state wide 'telethon' to get donations for the area. Were also sending our national guard down to the gulf to help restore order.

I also heard heard over 20 nations are sending us help. Im not sure what nations exactly but thank you.

[Ion]

I'm currently an intern with a federal agency and they have requested volunteers to go down and aid with security -but since I"m just a lowly intern right now they won't let me go.

My thoughts are still with them

[Henniger]

In reply to those that believe we dont support our own people. The Navy's red cross ship, that costs billions to run is being moved to the gulf. So no, our government is not helping. 11,000 national guardsmen are currently on state duty in the effected areas. 1 and a half million MRE's have been sent and are being distributed throughout the area. Several military MP's are patroling to stop looting, along with the possibility of hundreds of troops being deployed, a large number of troops is rare to happen in natural disasters. More and more rescue helicopters from the military are being flown around to rescue people from their roofs and remote area's. So no, our government isnt doing anything. An aircraft carrier and other naval vessels are being used for helicopter landings. Along with the billions of dollars that congress is passing. So tell me, how is our government idle on this disaster? You all must not be able to imagine how difficult it is to rescue thousands from a flooded area, where the oh so very smart people get trapped in their attics, where you cant see them to rescue them. Plus things that people in our country are doing to help. So shut up about our government not doing anything, cause were doing a lot more then any other country could do for themselves.


Well said.

And God bless all those who are helping, along with those victims of the hurricane.

[dyin]

Off toppic: why do you use the 'god bless'-thingy so often? Do you really believe it, or do you just use it often like u use the 'fick' (i=u) word?

(this is a serious question btw, I'm just interested)

[=CC=Serpentor]

Off toppic: why do you use the 'god bless'-thingy so often? Do you really believe it, or do you just use it often like u use the 'fick' (i=u) word?

(this is a serious question btw, I'm just interested)


STFU!! I hope a cat 5 hurricane comes for you....just you. So maybe you'll get it. Some of us believe in GOD. Why is that so hard to understand?? I dropped some soldiers off in Louisiana personally and saw some of the damage. IT IS BEYOND THE SCOPE OF THE IMAGINATION WHAT THE TRUE PICTURE IS DOWN THERE. What you see on television is NOTHING!! They can't air much of what you see when you are actually there. Its heart wrenching. I don't know anyone personally who was involved, but it didn't stop the tears from falling down my face. I wish I could have stayed to help.

[gungho]

I can't believe that the USA is short of money to resolve this catastrophe, but I also think the victims really need help from anywhere. I have donated some £ to help.

[Drifter]

i donated 300.. and plan for more since i live here in Louisiana

[Drifter]

This is one of those natural disasters that nobody really expects because many of us have never been through a storm of this magnitude. It's just too hard to comprehend...you can only imagine it.

Normally, a hurricane passes and the water normally drains off soon afterward. In this case, however, the roads are still filling with water days after the storm! For a relief worker it's a never ending burden you can't workaround unless you have a boat or a helicopter.

On top of that...


Power is out
Phones are out
Cell phones don't work (towers rely on electricity)
Drinking water is out or contaminated
Food is rotten
People can't commicate
The levy breaks after the hurricane
People can't swim
People are starving to death


The list continues. One thing is for sure. The state, local & federal emergency workers are absolutely not equipped enough to operate normally in a flooded city that continues to fill.

They will have to rewrite the textbooks for this one.

u forgot, asshol*s stealing, and shooting people.. we are trying to help them and they are Fn shooting us?

[HYP3R]

Donated $250 today and about 4 bags of clothes (mostly kids clothes, shoes, etc.) The cool part about my donation will actually go to a friend's sister that lost their house and well everything. Also guys don't forget about the Salvation Army. They are doing a great deal also.

[OSIRIS]

I can't believe that the USA is short of money to resolve this catastrophe, but I also think the victims really need help from anywhere. I have donated some £ to help.
Its not so much short, but we are one of the first nations to help when something happens somewhere else and when something this big happens to us we never expected to need help but the fact is we could use all the help we can get. I was so ready to say( and at first this was true) that nobody was going to help. Then about 2 days after the flood I think we recieved word that 30 countries had asked to help if we need it. I thank those countries and their people for seeing past politics and being human. Thank YOU all!!

[sicdeath]

This is very tragic and depressing. My thoughts and prayers goes out to the loved one's who have been lost due to Katrina and other things as well.

-rahul

[imported_slijkhuis]

i found this on another forum... dunno if it is worth posting... if not... please edit away...

-Removed, Its already in another therad and it just causes politcal chaos..-Ace101

- SlijkhuiS

[ohlem]

Off topic, Were any of you in katrina? I was on vacation in Louisiana when it hit, luckily i'm fine, and plan to donate. Oh and btw, katrina hit as cat 4 not 5, if it was a five it'd be alot worse.

[Drifter]

Off topic, Were any of you in katrina? I was on vacation in Louisiana when it hit, luckily i'm fine, and plan to donate. Oh and btw, katrina hit as cat 4 not 5, if it was a five it'd be alot worse.

we were hit.. but not very hard... im about 80 miles from new orleans

[TaTorT]

lol i guess 10.5 billion dollars that just passes through the senate isnt money? thats so much i couldnt even fathom what i could do with that... i feel so bad for tehse people. i live in florida and am suffering from insane gas prices. wich isnt even close to what the people in new orleans and misisipi are going through i cant even begin to understand how this can happin to the US i mean i begin to question wether bush has what it takes. i mean could you imagine leaving your home for a hurricane and realizing you have nuthing to go back to? NUTHING peoples lives are completly destroyed its unbelieveable. i wish i could do something but i cant because im not rich and these gas prices arnt helping. god dman we just need to get the **** out of iraq...:mad: :cry:
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
10.5 billion???? They are spending hundreds of billions for wars based on LIES and you think 10.5 billion is much??? You prolly are one of the 99% retards in USA, I don't have to ask you to think about that because 99% of USA citizens learned NOT to think, only to OBEY orders.USA are a stupid fascists horde.

[lil_jimmy]

It ****es me off to see people saying that people still in NO shouldn't be helped because they were too stupid to get out... These are people who can't afford a car let alone to stay ina hotel outside the city. Were buses and accomadation outside the city provided for these people? No. So that is why they are stranded...

I know this is political but personally i think BUsh is so caught up in the 'American Dream' that i finds it so hard to percieve that someone might not have a car...

[David Champion]

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
10.5 billion???? They are spending hundreds of billions for wars based on LIES and you think 10.5 billion is much??? You prolly are one of the 99% retards in USA, I don't have to ask you to think about that because 99% of USA citizens learned NOT to think, only to OBEY orders.USA are a stupid fascists horde.

This has absolutely nothing to do with this topic please stop.

Either stay on topic or just don't post my god, why does this turn into an attack on the US when something catastrophic happens? It's an act of God not a war get a clue please before you post retoric and nonsense...

I question a person who uses 4 or 5 question marks in a row, one does suffice to make your point that's like using 4-5 Exclamation points to make point it's not necessary.

[=CC=Serpentor]

That post should really be deleted. It doesn't belong here. Even if I wasn't an American I'd condemn those remarks.

[imported_slijkhuis]

yea.... its getting pretty *hot* here.... :(

- SlijkhuiS

[troybob]

My employer is awesome, they sent out a company wide email and are going to match all our donations! Donate whatever you can guys because every little bit counts.

so is my company - do you work for cisco?

they are also giving every employee optional 3 week leave (paid) to go help

oh and don't mind tator - an online buddy knows him - he's actually american (i guess he just wants attention?)

[TITAN126]

To all you Europeans who think we are doing nothing to help those trapped in New Orleans...Do you know how hard it is to evacuate 100,000 people from a city submerged in 20 feet of water and ravaged by looting? Not to mention the various fires burning throughout the city. I think its amazing that they've managed to get half of the people out in five days. They've done more than any of your socialist governments could do for you. So stop saying we don't help our own people.

[gungho]

To all you Europeans who think we are doing nothing to help those trapped in New Orleans...

Its obvious that something is being done now, but read this -

No one can say they didn't see it coming (http://service.spiegel.de/cache/international/0,1518,372455,00.html)
In 2001, FEMA warned that a hurricane striking New Orleans was one of the three most likely disasters in the U.S. But the Bush administration cut New Orleans flood control funding by 44 percent to pay for the Iraq war.
(the 2 others were earthquake & terrorist attack)

Doing something before would have been better. I know your going to say "you cant put up flood defences against a hurricane", but some of the funding could have gone towards emergency evacuation facilities for those who could not afford it.

[Ace101]

Thats it, cut the bull!!! Anyone who makes a comment that has nothing to do with donations for this natural disaster, will be warned and there post will be delted!!

[gungho]

Thats it, cut the bull!!! Anyone who makes a comment that has nothing to do with donations for this natural disaster, will be warned and there post will be delted!!

No offence intended Ace. Feel free to delete the above post if you think fit. Are we able to discuss this outside of this thread ?

[Ace101]

No offence intended Ace. Feel free to delete the above post if you think fit. Are we able to discuss this outside of this thread ?

You may dicuss it in the Off Topic forum, but please not here.

[ConscriptVirus]

I know what these people are living. I live in Puerto Rico and we constantly get hammered by hurricanes, but our infranstructure and seweres help the flooding go away. Sadly they weren't ready for this... and It was a category 5 hurricane, which we haven't had in years. Please try to donate and help them out for I know how it feels to be hit with such a devastating blow.

even tho they had a warning about this i wonder why the gov't reacted so slow to it

[eggz]

Im giving my money to Iraqi Red Cresent to try and help those tenths of tousands of children in Iraq that are starving and dying and are beeing killed as a direct result of the war.

Anyways. Americas Military budget for ONE year is MORE THAN 400 BILLION dollars. Spend it on peace one year and the next year you have all the money you want for disaster relief.

[Hella_Bacon]

Those people need some serios help.

[TITAN126]

Thats it, cut the bull!!! Anyone who makes a comment that has nothing to do with donations for this natural disaster, will be warned and there post will be delted!!

Sorry, no harm intented. I just have one thing to add: We've managed to raise $50,000 in three nights up here at Fenway Park :p !

[DirtySock888]

I want to thank everyone here who is doing what they can to help. I live in the New Orleans area and I along with my family have lost everything. My house is about 10 to 12 feet under water right now and from what i understand, only the roof is sticking out. I consider myself lucky because i evacuated and have the basic necessities. Its good to see so many people showing concern for others.

[-[SF]- AgentO]

If I were thinking of making a donation to the American Red Cross in order to help the victims of Katrina, I would first take a look at this ::

http://www.rinf.com/news/sep-2005/08.html

If you still decide to donate to ARC then good luck!! I would probably use the other suggestion of where to send funds.

[Dark Kai]

even tho they had a warning about this i wonder why the gov't reacted so slow to it

The fact that many don't have the resource to evacuate is purely bullsh1t. I'm actually very angry of how the gov't reacted to the situation. Here in Puerto Rico we've been through so many hurricanes, and yet we have the decensie to evacuate all of those who need to be evacuated , even if it means the whole 4 million in this island, and even if our own neighboors have to pay for each others evac. Sadly they handled the situation very wrong, not for get those people stealing and shooting each other for worthless material posetions... I'm ashamed on what they are doing. I hope they learn some respect and start helping each other.

God bless all of them, and I know reliefe will be bestowed on all of them soon.

[Dethshoot1]

Good job guys. This is really nice. Unless you are tricking us...

[Jason4321]

LOL USA spending billions and billions for wars based on lies, and now the USA red cross asks for money when something happens in their own country.Ask your government for money...

Last i checked the Governments money was ours, and it is in use with the national guard, water, food, but extra helps. We cant sacrafice out entire spending budget to save just 1 city. Regaurdless of if its under water or not, and the local state government should have a reliefe fun, maybe if we diddnt help those Tsunami victims wed have more for our own country. I guess thats what we get for being nice to the world. =)

And i dont blame the looters, most of those people diddnt have anything to begin with, and when everything was taken from them they deserve to loot. hell why let the water destroy the product we might as well use it. And wal- Mart can always afford to lose more afterall they hardley give back to local communities.

[-[SF]- AgentO]

Most average people in the USA are considerate and caring people and i'm impressed by your actions to help those poor people in N.O by raising funds, donating money and collecting clothes, shoes and other neady items.

As all Americans are aware N.O was renound for it's poverty and also home to a huge population of black people. American history has taught us that feelings towards black people were generally negative throughout the white population and were basically regarded as subserviant to the white people. This mentality still exists within the USA amongst some white people today, who are quick to stereo-type black people with violence and crime. In a situation of having already lived a hard, under privaliged life into an even bigger game of life or death. Be you black, white or any other creed, colour or race, you will do what you must in order to survive. The instincts of survival are very strong in us all in the sense that we would go to extraordinary lengths to survive, even if that means killing a fellow HumanBeing.

It's sick when you here people say 'well good ridence' or 'that'll save us some money' or 'the place was a sh*t-hole anyway'. Obviously a comment from a white person with the mentality I have just described. These are most likely the same people so willing to quickly jump up to defend the government against any comments which suggest any wrong doings in any way, shape or form. I don't want to turn this into a political or anti-US arguement, but I think that all these comments should be addressed and raised in any public arena, aslong as they are written with a little thought and inteligence and not just throwing words about in slanging match kind of way.

We live in an era like none other before in the sense that we have a connection with eachother on a worldwide scale, litrally at our fingertips. Information/news that has been delivered to us before now was limited in comparison to today. It only takes an interest in one topic such as Katrina or 9/11, for example, to gather information on the matter from all areas, down to individuals giving a 'I was there, I know what i'm talking about' statement on accounts of what they witnessed themselves. It is then you see a different picture of what is going off in the world today, particually America.

Why is it considered by most that the administration in power today is a completely innocent party and can not possibly be one that is only interested in themselves, with their own 'personal agenda' ?

Why is not possible to think hang on, maybe those guys really don't give a sh*t for a bunch of people in N.O because they are both black and poor ?

Please people from the USA, do your homework, ask the questions you don't really want hear, face the possiblity you could have a very corrupt government with an agenda that will affect the stability and peace within this very world you love, want to see your kids grow up in and live. Please let's talk about these things in a considerate and respectful manner given the significance and scale of such a tragic disaster, be it natural or not. These are unique times for us all to speak openly and personaly with eachother. We may all actually learn something from eachother, us the non government related people of the world, us the ones who have to answer for our governments actions and live by their rules or else, us the generally intelligent people who can interact with eachother as a commmunity of respectful, thoughtful and caring people; us the MAJORITY.

I am not from America and nor am I black. I am white and from the UK and I am concerned.

Feel free to delete this post Moderators. All I can say is that this thread has a lot of peoples feelings in it for what has happened and in it's own small kind of way could help raise peoples awareness to such a significant subject. I feel people may have some constructive things to say if you find your work in keeping peoples tensions down, but allowing people to say what they must regarding all Katrina related issues and not just deleting posts that aren't specifically about relief awareness or contain a negative comment.

If you do decide to leave this post within this thread, then I must thankyou for allowing such a contraversial post to stay, which was written in a careful, considerate, but honest way.

If people have read this and feel they have something they need to say; Firstly, please Moderators, allow this thread to continue in a broader sense and secondly, please post in thoughtful and constructive way in order to ask ourselves questions and let this thread continue.

It may make a difference.

[the creepa]

I've stopped boozing for a week to donate to the fund, it's been hard, but rewarding.

[Toker]

- AgentO']
It's sick when you here people say 'well good ridence' or 'that'll save us some money' or 'the place was a sh*t-hole anyway'. Obviously a comment from a white person with the mentality I have just described. These are most likely the same people so willing to quickly jump up to defend the government against any comments which suggest any wrong doings in any way, shape or form. I don't want to turn this into a political or anti-US arguement, but I think that all these comments should be addressed and raised in any public arena, aslong as they are written with a little thought and inteligence and not just throwing words about in slanging match kind of way.



Good read but im about sick of hearing the Race thing brought up like so many other things.The mayor of NO is Black..90% of the population is black.The fact of the matter is..they were warned and told to leave..i see cars in the streets of NO..where are the drivers? Lootin? Dead? Scared?

They had the oppritunity to leave..now they claim Bush responsible for the hurricane..Sayin "the government flooded NO purposely" Gimme a freakin break.If you were that stupid enough to stay then i feel no sympathy (except for the children).They had plenty of time to leave and get their **** together before the storm hit.Werent they told to go the superdome anyway?

Then it boils down to "RACE".Just because they were black and poor doesnt mean ****.Their humans..they play a role in america just as any rich "WHITE" person will..oh and dont forget we are a nation of Many races.It seems everytime something happens anywhere with a black person..the play the race card..OMG IM BLACK AND YOUR GONNA TAKE ME TO JAIL CAUSE SOMEONE SAID I ROBBED THEM.. YOU PICKED ME CAUSE IM BLACK..then the law suits begin..

I remember awhile back a bill that got shot down so fast is was unbelivable..Some black congress man actually tried to pass a law to where every white person had to give a percentage of their pay to the Black race.Why you ask..because of what happened in the old days..im 25 ..i could care less what happened before i was born.And you not gettin my hard earned Dollars.

Dont take any of this personally,im just stating my opinion on the situation since its obvious "YOU" dont live in America.

-Toke

[JoeBannon]

Tell Bush to stop wasting our money in Iraq and then we wont have these issues.

[JoeBannon]

- AgentO']Most average people in the USA are considerate and caring people and i'm impressed by your actions to help those poor people in N.O by raising funds, donating money and collecting clothes, shoes and other neady items.

As all Americans are aware N.O was renound for it's poverty and also home to a huge population of black people. American history has taught us that feelings towards black people were generally negative throughout the white population and were basically regarded as subserviant to the white people. This mentality still exists within the USA amongst some white people today, who are quick to stereo-type black people with violence and crime. In a situation of having already lived a hard, under privaliged life into an even bigger game of life or death. Be you black, white or any other creed, colour or race, you will do what you must in order to survive. The instincts of survival are very strong in us all in the sense that we would go to extraordinary lengths to survive, even if that means killing a fellow HumanBeing.

It's sick when you here people say 'well good ridence' or 'that'll save us some money' or 'the place was a sh*t-hole anyway'. Obviously a comment from a white person with the mentality I have just described. These are most likely the same people so willing to quickly jump up to defend the government against any comments which suggest any wrong doings in any way, shape or form. I don't want to turn this into a political or anti-US arguement, but I think that all these comments should be addressed and raised in any public arena, aslong as they are written with a little thought and inteligence and not just throwing words about in slanging match kind of way.

We live in an era like none other before in the sense that we have a connection with eachother on a worldwide scale, litrally at our fingertips. Information/news that has been delivered to us before now was limited in comparison to today. It only takes an interest in one topic such as Katrina or 9/11, for example, to gather information on the matter from all areas, down to individuals giving a 'I was there, I know what i'm talking about' statement on accounts of what they witnessed themselves. It is then you see a different picture of what is going off in the world today, particually America.

Why is it considered by most that the administration in power today is a completely innocent party and can not possibly be one that is only interested in themselves, with their own 'personal agenda' ?

Why is not possible to think hang on, maybe those guys really don't give a sh*t for a bunch of people in N.O because they are both black and poor ?

Please people from the USA, do your homework, ask the questions you don't really want hear, face the possiblity you could have a very corrupt government with an agenda that will affect the stability and peace within this very world you love, want to see your kids grow up in and live. Please let's talk about these things in a considerate and respectful manner given the significance and scale of such a tragic disaster, be it natural or not. These are unique times for us all to speak openly and personaly with eachother. We may all actually learn something from eachother, us the non government related people of the world, us the ones who have to answer for our governments actions and live by their rules or else, us the generally intelligent people who can interact with eachother as a commmunity of respectful, thoughtful and caring people; us the MAJORITY.

I am not from America and nor am I black. I am white and from the UK and I am concerned.

Feel free to delete this post Moderators. All I can say is that this thread has a lot of peoples feelings in it for what has happened and in it's own small kind of way could help raise peoples awareness to such a significant subject. I feel people may have some constructive things to say if you find your work in keeping peoples tensions down, but allowing people to say what they must regarding all Katrina related issues and not just deleting posts that aren't specifically about relief awareness or contain a negative comment.

If you do decide to leave this post within this thread, then I must thankyou for allowing such a contraversial post to stay, which was written in a careful, considerate, but honest way.

If people have read this and feel they have something they need to say; Firstly, please Moderators, allow this thread to continue in a broader sense and secondly, please post in thoughtful and constructive way in order to ask ourselves questions and let this thread continue.

It may make a difference.



Tell the people who voted for Bush.

[ReeferKeeper]

None of my money will be going to this so called "Relief". I am posative it wont after watching this...http://www.riotvideo.com/Katrina_Re...or_Slavery.html (http://www.riotvideo.com/Katrina_Re...or_Slavery.html)

This video shows the mentality these people have...and all they want is money for crack and other crap...

[ReeferKeeper]

and...this...http://img343.imageshack.us/img343/9427/owned1cr.jpg

[JoeBannon]

Your link didn't work.

[pose4me]

its wonderfull that u guys are doing this and noone has made any smart *** remarks good for you that is very nice!

[OmegaEpsilon]

I read through this post and was extremely moved by all of you. I own a Computer VAR / OEM in Louisiana. The night of the storm we had over 25 people housed in my home. I was saddened by the fact that I couldn't use my offices or wharehouse to let people stay, (the high priced items on shelves and whatnot). We had three entire families with us that night and they stayed until that Friday.

Just so you folks can see some of the damage these are photographs of the damage that you won't see on TV. Mostly coverage of New Orleans on the tube, these are of areas near the NO.

Visit the following page to view those images. ( I didn't think the folks at TBF2 would allow these large images ).

http://www.lw-pc.com/katrina

Also this is a direct link to a powerpoint slide show with sound showing the devestation... Get a tissue in hand prior to viewing.

http://www.lw-pc.com/katrina/NewOrleans2005.PPS