My way to win semois

[Sir. Tasty]

Well this is the way i use and probably most players will go for a different tactic..but here it is.

This is a guide from the allies point of view starting at the south base.

First, i always go for a weapons support building rather than a barrack(riflespam hardly works on this map) and make 3-4 MG teams as fast as you can, place them in the red places i have shown on my map, after this is i go for a sniper( to clear out hostile MG teams, and a motor to clear any bunkers they may have built. Once i have a rough control of the map i tent to reinforce my flanks, the right being the weakest as it takes longest to get to, now if you have the right secure you can move in and cut off the road out of their main with an MG thus pinning them in their base and making them go the long way around. Before i ever go for tanks i make AT guns- and lots of them, Axis have pretty easy access to stugs- now these when used properly are pretty powerful tanks but they are an easy kill for 2 waiting AT guns. Once i have sealed the right road out of the Axis main with 2 at guns and 1 MG, i concentrate on the left road, then push up it and cut off their last ammo/fuel points then just sit around their main and wait for them to give up.

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[Idaeus]

And wait for them to give up? Not kill them? Nice strategy guide! :D

[SHIZWAH]

Ok, no that doesnt work.

Firstly, ANY good player, the moment they see you went WSC will get a sniper for their second unit and a bike for their third. Basically your MG's are gonna get sniped to hell before you can even get your 3rd MG out. As WSC sniper always must be your second unit. Also, if you dont cut of their fuel until you have a bunch of AT guns, they are gonna puma rush you and run you off the field. Just think of the ammount of counters to this strat, imagine the carnage stormtroopers would cause. If he see's you have 4 MG's he's just get 2 snipers and make you cry.

This wont work vs anyone level 5+ and your comment "riflespam hardly works on this map" couldnt be more wrong. Watch any replays of top 100 players, and you'll see that ALL of them go Barracks.

[Sir. Tasty]

Well as it said my was of winning it probably wont work for every player, this is just how i like to play the map, and i posted this so anybody can take any useful parts from it ;)

[BoDyBaG2224]

Now a days a WSC start won't work to well. Allies win in numbers so a lot of rifles will do you better. Micro them to have one pinned by an MG and the other flanks and pops in a grenade. Then quick tech to MP to get out a quad, and from there on to tank depot where you'll either get a M10 or a Croc to follow up with your 7cp pershing.

[gazzthompson]

Now a days a WSC start won't work to well. Allies win in numbers so a lot of rifles will do you better. Micro them to have one pinned by an MG and the other flanks and pops in a grenade. Then quick tech to MP to get out a quad, and from there on to tank depot where you'll either get a M10 or a Croc to follow up with your 7cp pershing.


just tryed this , didnt work ....

took to long to get nades , MG won the oil points early game so by time i had nades it taked 3/4 to take out mg team and then he had gren's with mgs , got halftrack , worked ok for a while b4 geting smashed by AT gun , had to keep building inf to try take some points back becuse was losing tickets and all my resources points , just get owned by the anti-inf stug , w8ted till i got pershing , by this time was to l8 and i got owned by AT guns and inf with panzershreck then shortly lost game.

[AeroTow]

Moved to the war room.

[BoDyBaG2224]

just tryed this , didnt work ....

took to long to get nades , MG won the oil points early game so by time i had nades it taked 3/4 to take out mg team and then he had gren's with mgs , got halftrack , worked ok for a while b4 geting smashed by AT gun , had to keep building inf to try take some points back becuse was losing tickets and all my resources points , just get owned by the anti-inf stug , w8ted till i got pershing , by this time was to l8 and i got owned by AT guns and inf with panzershreck then shortly lost game.

Hmm. Well the key is to get grenades as soon as you have 40 fuel. By that time you should have 4-5 Riflemen, atleast. Make sure that they are not in groups cause then an MG will suppress them easily, and you'll take more casualties. The key is to flank MG positioins, have one squad get pinned and then move in another squad from a different direction to nade the building, flamer engineers will work well too. Make sure that you cap the fuel next to your base and after you get like 5 riflesquads put an observation post on it to get more income. As allies I like to cap in this order: First engineers build barracks while other engineers are queing, set up rally point on fuel next to base so engineers immediately move to the fuel as soon as they're built. They cap the fuel the munitions east and then move to cap the little island with the strat point and the High Munitions. The engineer squad that built the barracks will go and either cap the high munitions on the NW part of the map or garrison the building near it. Put a rally point on the strat point opposite your bridge for the riflemen to go to. Have the riflemen cap the strat points and then control the city. Garrison the church if you feel that the enemy will be coming soon. Cap the west side of the map with the fuel and VP, and then move East. You don't need to cap the top points (enemy points) unless you want to harrass his fuel point (decap it and if you're attacked run away or if you meet no resistance cap the point to delay his teching. Continue to produce rifles and when you hit 40 fuel purchase grenades IF he has multiple machine guns. If he has a lot of foot soldiers (volks, grens, storms) purchase BAR's rather then grenades. Most of the time you will need to purchase only one of those upgrades. When you hit 50 fuel build supply depot and when you hit 45? fuel build a Motor Pool and get a Halftrack, and purchase the quad upgrade. Make sure you still have engineers and keep them close to the halftrack to repair it. Harrass the enemy wiht the Quad, and remeber to keep your riflemen with it, BUT NOT CLUMPED, to support it. Combined arms are the key. If there is a lull in the battle you will want to make a Tank Depot and then judge the situation. If there is a lull, he may be going tanks, so you may want an M10 to deal with the situation, your riflemen can deal with infantry and so can the quad. Or if he still has garrisoned infantry and a lot of it, make a croc. Remeber that if you go armor (LIKE YOU SHOULD!!:)) You will have the "Crew Repairs Vehicles" option use it if you vehicle gets to 1/2 health. Keeping it alive is crucial. Then wait for VP to drain or make a final push.

Notes**You should only OP 1 point on this map. If Allies Fuel, if Axis Munitions.
Don't cap VP's first!! They don't mean much if you don't get them ahead of time. Capture Fuel and Munition points first, so you can build up an army.
Locate choke points and don't be afraid to mine them.
If you kill an MG squad they may leave behind their machine gun. Garrison it with Riflemen and then set it up and reinforce your riflemen.

[Idaeus]

Bodybag your tactis sounds quite cool. I picked up a few tips n tricks from it. Thanks! :)

[BoDyBaG2224]

Why thank you. :D

[BoDyBaG2224]

Just re-read my Semois strat and I can't believe how much the game has changed.

Semois is totally different now, M8s are the way to go, MGs seem to never be used right anymore, and I can't believe I never said buy and ATG, I mean wow, I remeber that I/no one used them and just used vehicle spam, boy o boy are those memories. If I get a game on semois I'll use my current strat and post it in the replay vault along with an explanation.

[Sir. Tasty]

Agree, for US its all about the fast m8 vs PE.

[Idaeus]

So if you can be bothered, would you like to tell us the tactics you use nowadays both of you (Tasty+Bodybag)?

[BoDyBaG2224]

Well it depends really how you see the opponent playing. I used to use a basic strat but now it is all about adaption. I'll post a Semois strat in a little while.

[Idaeus]

Looking forward to it! ;)

[Avenger6789]

Is semois like the most popular map? Everyone is giving guides about it, have you realized?

[[52MB]S|2Lt.R.L.Ermey]

Well it IS the only map on the COH Demo. That might have something to do with it.

[Idaeus]

Good point... :p