Anyone else having problems with radeon 9200 agp 256 mb?

[_SilentXScope_]

i have the card listed in the topic and everything is on low but when i start a game it is laggy as SH@! Ive read around sopme other forums too and some people have my problem too so i just want to know if i can fix it before i take it back and buy a new card. if anyone else has this problem please post. if anyone has the solution please post also

[bloodie73]

I dont think the game supports the 9200 series.

[_SilentXScope_]

it did before the patch

[Nerdmonkey]

I have the radeon 9200 128mb. It ran perfectly before the patch, but when I installed 1.2 there was insane lag and all the static meshes were invisible.

[_SilentXScope_]

same here

[ToneDog]

same i have 9250 AGP 8x 128mb now extreme lag and invisible static mesh

before the patch my bf2 ran with everything on low except texture and effect on medium perform around 30 fps

[_SilentXScope_]

i used to get 40-45 fps. someone needs to post in ea forums about this.... i guess i will

[DoubleL]

Same here. ATI has updated drivers try them. This is what I did to get my card to work when I first installed the game.

[_SilentXScope_]

are they the 6.2 catalyst because if so i already have those. and did your drivers make the patch work if dso what drivers are they

[DoubleL]

Did the 6.2 Catalyst drivers make your game go back to desktop when you try to start it? Did you load just the drivers or the Catalyst Control center also?

[CosmosX]

I have an ATI Radeon 9100, and I'm having the same problems as you guys. Horrible frame rate, and invisible buildings and objects. (I guess that's the same as invisible static mesh textures.)

[_SilentXScope_]

the 6.2 drivers work fine like before excpt until i get in the game horrible lag and frame rate problems.. EA has just screwed Ati Users.. hmm stupid nvidia always working with ea games:evil:

[ToneDog]

i don't think its the 6.2 driver

i installed the patch before i updated to 6.2 because i saw the crash-to-desktop warning on the release note

but after updating to 6.2 static objects are still invisible along with extreme lag

similar the situation where a non-directX 9 support card attempting to run with AA on 6x

[_SilentXScope_]

maybe ill try the 6.1 drivers then ill post results

[_SilentXScope_]

omfg drivers dont work. ****** ea @ssholes

[ToneDog]

ah my leetle fliend went to bed after pwning bunny n00b dolpine prone tubers

on da other hand i am still sitting infront of my $20 second hand monitor waiting for dice to wake up and make a move

[_SilentXScope_]

same here with that 20 $ monitor 15" CRT hell yeah! Cmon DICE do something dont sit around like a bunch of retarded developers. if one of the devs post here i will flame his *** so bad...

[kewl e-man]

it did before the patch
OMG PEOPLE DO NOT READ CORRECTLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
****ES ME OFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WHEN IT SAYS NOT SUPPORTED,,,,, IT MEANS THT IT WILL RUN BUT IT WILL NOT RUN AS IT SHOULD!!!!!!!
WHICH MEANS THT U WILL GET LAG AND UR PERFORMANCE WILL BE TERRIBLE. GOOD FOR U U CAN RUN BEFORE BUT IT SAYS, U SHOULD GET SOMETHING BETTER. I HAVE POSTED GREAT DEALS ON A 6200 256MB 64-BIT FOR 80 BUCKS AT CIRCUITCITY. I HAVE POSTED THT LINK SOMEWHERE IN A ANOTHER POST (i think bf2 graphics, something like tht) IF U CANT BUY CARDS ONLINE!!!!!!!!!

SUPPORTED VIDEO CARDS IN README.TXT
ATI 8500/9550/9600/9800 AND UP!!!!!!!!!!
NVIDIA 5700 AND UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

-srry for my anger, people r very stingy and do NOT c the truth.
so scared from it.

[comanighttrain]

what do you mean it will run but not as it should? As a software developer, i am aware that anything that it claims to support means that it should function correctly, because if it doesnt then its not supporting it.

[Meannoo]

I have a radeon 9200 too. It wasn't a supported card bij EA, but it did work fine. So if it worked fine before, why can't it work fine now? I maybe have an older videocard then you guys, but I still payed the same price for the game we all did. It would be nice if I could play it.:mad:

[imported_peresvet]

yea the same with 9200 here, buildings dissapeared and the game goes really slowlyyyy.
i sent a question to technical support of EA.

[imported_Angel]

Well EA will finally get us 9200 series folks to finally update our cards (mine is a 9250). :mad:

It looks like the problem is consistent for all of us (extreme lag and static mesh probs). I'll wait a bit to see if another user can figure out a workaround but I'm guessing I will be purchasing a new card today.

Since EA did not choose to support this card on BF2 I knew this could happen so I don't expect we'll get much of a response from them on it. Honestly, why would they waste the time/money on a card they don't support? It's hard enough getting a useful response from them on a card they DO support! ;) But it doesn't change the fact that it does suck. :eek:

I looked at the links Mr. Numbnuts (aka Kewl) provided, but since ATI is so buggy I won't risk changing brands. My other computer has a 9600XT installed and is running BF2 + 1.12 patch with no problems so I will be upgrading to that.

I found the Sapphire Radeon 9600XT card for a smidge under $ 100.00 (total price) w/ free 2-day shipping at: https://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=320756

If you can't buy online you can go with Numbnuts choice but be aware that the $ 80 bucks he mentions is AFTER a mail in rebate. The real cost up front will be about $ 130.

Oh well at least I know I'm not jonzing alone. Good luck fellow sufferers! :D

Angel

P.S.-/ Here you go Numbnuts: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16823178105 <---that my friend is a link to a new keyboard which you so desperately need. I went ahead and found you an illuminated one so that you will be able to locate that caps lock button even in the dark. If you use it sparingly (as intended) it won't stick. :p

[RJW]

Yeah i have the 256mb 9200 i have smae problem i have sent ea a support request they have not considered ATI users only nvidia. We need to know the specific thing that makes it go wrong then maybe we could change it or adapt the game

[DoubleL]

Tried the latest Omega ATI drivers 6.1 It seems a little better but still no buildings,rocks, etc. Loaded the patch on my laptop which used to run BF2 but have the same problem so it isn't just the ATI 9200 cards it is all ATI cards that they say aren't "supported". Obviously the adjustment they made to gain better rendering performance has screwed us, now we get no renders at all.

[Hephaistion]

I dont think the game supports the 9200 series.
I think what 73 was saying is BF2 Doesn't support ther 9200 Series. Sounds pretty simple to me.
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/214319
Here is a list of supported cards:

Radeon X700 (PCIe)
Radeon X600 (PCIe)
GeForce 6600 (PCIe)
GeForce PCX 5900 (PCIe)
GeForce 5800 Series (AGP)
ATI Radeon X800 XT Platinum Edition
ATI Radeon X800 PRO
ATI Radeon-X850 XT Platinum
ATI Radeon 9800 Series
ATI Radeon 9600 Series
ATI Radeon 9550 (RV350LX)
ATI Radeon 9500 / 9700 Series
ATI Radeon 8500 Series
ATI Radeon X300 Series
NVidia GeForce 6800 Ultra
NVidia GeForce 6800 GT
NVidia GeForce 6800
NVidia GeForce FX 5950 Series
NVidia GeForce FX 5900 Series
NVidia GeForce FX 5700 Series

Just because it ran on your 9200 before the patch does not mean it was meant to run on your card at all. They prolly changed a line of code that obviated your card completely. I am amazed you had it running on a 9200 to begin with.

[Hephaistion]

Fear not!
Look at this!
http://www.mwave.com/mwave/viewspec.hmx?scriteria=3000454
Not too shabby, and XfX is the heater!
Don't have PCIE?
http://www.mwave.com/mwave/Skusearch.hmx?scriteria=3625406
Also not too shabby.
http://www.mwave.com/mwave/viewspec.hmx?scriteria=3655606
Also not to bad!

Bottom line here girls...... STOP TRYING TO RUN A GAME WITH ONE OF THE STEEPEST SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS IN THE PC GAMING INDUSTRY WITH A $55 BEST BUY SPECIAL VIDEO CARD! STEP UP AND SPEND UNDER $150 AND JOIN THE REST OF US.

[Alfresco]

Wow! Thanks J-Train! you're so uber helpful [/sarcasm]

Look, there is no need to get all uptight, we are all well aware that the game does not support our card. Its just a little annoying that we've been able to run the game so far and now with no major differnce to the game engine, the game has been taken away from us. You didn't really need to have a brain hemorrhage about it.

Also, not everyone is able to afford a new graphics card within 24hrs of a patch being released. If you're so sure we have to do it, then let me PM you my address, and you can mail me a new card.

Anyway, back on topic: lets hope someone comes up with a patch/driver to get us round this! :)

[Hephaistion]

Anyway, back on topic: lets hope someone comes up with a patch/driver to get us round this! :)
It is not gonna happen. These companies make money off you when you buy new cards, not when they make your old card last forever. Just accept it, the 9200 is a dinosaur, and from the outset the 9200 was never meant as a serious gaming card. I still have never understood why people buy these cards that are absolete before you get them home. Spend the extra $$, look at this:
Here is the top of the line (if there is such a thing in the 9200 class) 9200 Series card: http://www.mwave.com/mwave/viewspec.hmx?scriteria=3473789
Now here is a 8-Pixel pipeline 6600 (non-GT) still a whole lot fater than the 9200:
http://www.mwave.com/mwave/viewspec.hmx?scriteria=3000418

But look again, for $25 more you get a 6600GT DDR3
http://www.mwave.com/mwave/viewspec.hmx?scriteria=3625407

Saving the equivilant of a dinner for 2 at Applebee's does not seem worth the performance issues you will suffer, as well as crying like a baby when a game, that never supported your card in the 1st place, stops working with your doorstop, I mean video card. That is like moving into an apartment that have free cable for some reason, and then one day it stops working, and you complain about it. YOU WEREN'T SUPPOSED TO HAVE IT IN THE 1st PLACE! So all you 9200 users, quit whining, go out, bite the bullet and get a new video card. This is one of the prices that PC gamers pay over console gamers. Of course our games are better, have more depth, more replayability and better control, but Console gamers never have to worry about "will my game work with my Xbox?" If you played golf, would you not buy new clubs when you needed them? If you ran track and field, would you not buy new shoes when you needed them? PC Gamers are quickly evolving into "cyber athletes" don't let antiquated equipment hold you back from playing your best.
Look, I don't make a ton of $$, but I do alright.
In September of 2004 I built my 1st AMD 64 PC, I scraped the barrel to do it, and I chose some budget parts, Asus K8N-E 754 with 3000+ 512mb DDR400 CL3, 40GB SATA, FSP 380W PSU and an ATI 9600 Pro
I started playing BF2 with this rig and suffered. The 1st thing I did was go out and buy a Radeon X700Pro, and my game improved. I said screw it, and bought a new mobo (PCI-E and AGP compatible ASROCK) and slapped my X700, and RAM on it, bought a new 3200+ 939 and guess what my game improved, so then I went out and bought 2GB of HYPERx CL2 DDR400 and BAM! What a difference. Then I started reading about SLi, and said, wow, more performance. So again I splurged, new Mobo, new Processor, 2 new video cards and HOLY SH!T!, this is what gaming is all about, NEVER HAVING TO RUN YOU SETTINGS ON LOW AGAIN. Skimping on hardware makes you miss the parts of the games that developers spend a lot of time on. Water effects, clouds, explosion effect, facial features, shawdows, lense flares, everything that makes the game seem more real. Skimping on hardware is only cheating you out of the full game experience. This is my 2 cents, take it or leave it.

[SFR-MAINE]

It is not gonna happen. These companies make money off you when you buy new cards, not when they make your old card last forever. Just accept it, the 9200 is a dinosaur, and from the outset the 9200 was never meant as a serious gaming card. I still have never understood why people buy these cards that are absolete before you get them home. Spend the extra $$, look at this:
Here is the top of the line (if there is such a thing in the 9200 class) 9200 Series card: http://www.mwave.com/mwave/viewspec.hmx?scriteria=3473789
Now here is a 8-Pixel pipeline 6600 (non-GT) still a whole lot fater than the 9200:
http://www.mwave.com/mwave/viewspec.hmx?scriteria=3000418

But look again, for $25 more you get a 6600GT DDR3
http://www.mwave.com/mwave/viewspec.hmx?scriteria=3625407

Saving the equivilant of a dinner for 2 at Applebee's does not seem worth the performance issues you will suffer, as well as crying like a baby when a game, that never supported your card in the 1st place, stops working with your doorstop, I mean video card. That is like moving into an apartment that have free cable for some reason, and then one day it stops working, and you complain about it. YOU WEREN'T SUPPOSED TO HAVE IT IN THE 1st PLACE! So all you 9200 users, quit whining, go out, bite the bullet and get a new video card. This is one of the prices that PC gamers pay over console gamers. Of course our games are better, have more depth, more replayability and better control, but Console gamers never have to worry about "will my game work with my Xbox?" If you played golf, would you not buy new clubs when you needed them? If you ran track and field, would you not buy new shoes when you needed them? PC Gamers are quickly evolving into "cyber athletes" don't let antiquated equipment hold you back from playing your best.
Look, I don't make a ton of $$, but I do alright.
In September of 2004 I built my 1st AMD 64 PC, I scraped the barrel to do it, and I chose some budget parts, Asus K8N-E 754 with 3000+ 512mb DDR400 CL3, 40GB SATA, FSP 380W PSU and an ATI 9600 Pro
I started playing BF2 with this rig and suffered. The 1st thing I did was go out and buy a Radeon X700Pro, and my game improved. I said screw it, and bought a new mobo (PCI-E and AGP compatible ASROCK) and slapped my X700, and RAM on it, bought a new 3200+ 939 and guess what my game improved, so then I went out and bought 2GB of HYPERx CL2 DDR400 and BAM! What a difference. Then I started reading about SLi, and said, wow, more performance. So again I splurged, new Mobo, new Processor, 2 new video cards and HOLY SH!T!, this is what gaming is all about, NEVER HAVING TO RUN YOU SETTINGS ON LOW AGAIN. Skimping on hardware makes you miss the parts of the games that developers spend a lot of time on. Water effects, clouds, explosion effect, facial features, shawdows, lense flares, everything that makes the game seem more real. Skimping on hardware is only cheating you out of the full game experience. This is my 2 cents, take it or leave it.

i have to agree with j-train on this you can't blame EA/dice if your hardware does not meet the requirements for the game, you have the choice to purchase the game or not. Game companys are not gonna be making games that are gonna support older hardware forever. I mean look at BF2 2GB of ram to run textures on high, who would have thought of that last year? Not me to play the best you need to get the best.
BF2 is a taste of what will come within the next few years. My 6600GT can run any current game quite well but this time next year i am very doubtfull. Stay active on all tech sites and keep up to date on the latest hardware and games.

www.tomshardware.com (http://www.tomshardware.com)
www.anandtech.com (http://www.anandtech.com)
www.xbitlabs.com (http://www.xbitlabs.com)
www.hardwarezone.com (http://www.hardwarezone.com)
www.hexus.net (http://www.hexus.net)
www.gamespy.com (http://www.gamespy.com)
www.gamespot.com (http://www.gamespot.com)
www.ign.com

[ToneDog]

i don't blame EA or DICE on anything

if the patch works well then you high end pc owners go enjoy don't come and thread whore

its not like everyone haven't heard about 6600 costing under 100

many 9200/9250 users have requested help, if DICE say no way then i'm not blaming so i have absolutely no idea why some of you thread whores would come and flame me for bit_ching

got a problem use PM i'm sure it doesn't take 5 minutes to learn

[idebo]

I've got an ATI Mobility Radeon 9200 (64mb VRAM) and it worked quite allright. Yes, I'm playing on my laptop and I'd really appreciate if other people would actually help. I didn't spend 50+30 euro's for games I couldn't play. Now, I know my card isn't supported and I'm just being an ***, but I don't think it hurts to help someone. Unless you're just to good with your fancy computer and bank-account.

[_SilentXScope_]

i don't blame EA or DICE on anything

if the patch works well then you high end pc owners go enjoy don't come and thread whore

its not like everyone haven't heard about 6600 costing under 100

many 9200/9250 users have requested help, if DICE say no way then i'm not blaming so i have absolutely no idea why some of you thread whores would come and flame me for bit_ching

got a problem use PM i'm sure it doesn't take 5 minutes to learn

amen to that.. and besides im not a ****ing 30 year old like some of you guys that plays bf2 all day and has the money to spend on a 4,000 dollar system. So i have to buy Budget ****. if you have a problem eith that then you are a inconsiderate prick. not everyone has 4000 dollars to blow on a computer just to play a $50 game on high settings.

[MachineGunDave]

amen to that.. and besides im not a ****ing 30 year old like some of you guys that plays bf2 all day and has the money to spend on a 4,000 dollar system. So i have to buy Budget ****. if you have a problem eith that then you are a inconsiderate prick. not everyone has 4000 dollars to blow on a computer just to play a $50 game on high settings.

You don't need to spend four thousand on a computer, but getting an acceptable video card would be a good start. Don't get ****ed off at us because you got a low end video card.

[ToneDog]

hey

9250 is acceptable

changing the minimum requirement is unacceptable for the people with acceptable video cards

[MachineGunDave]

hey

9250 is acceptable

changing the minimum requirement is unacceptable for the people with acceptable video cards

I wouldn't call the 9250 a gaming card in the least. Its been low end from its inception.

[ToneDog]

when it came out
i grabbed because it can play far cry on high quality for $70 canadian

[_SilentXScope_]

believe it or not i can play ut2004 on high everything. but if this dosent get fixed then im going to cod2(screw ea back to activision). and also what about that one picture of the error message a guy got saying that his static meshes were missing. what happened there?

[ToneDog]

same here

i can play call of duty 2 with everything on extra

AA on 4x

1024 x 768

40 fps

[viva palestine]

same problem here , i was able to play BF2 before i install this damn patch ,

i've ATI SAPPHIRE RADEON 9250 ...

[Hephaistion]

i have to agree with j-train on this you can't blame EA/dice if your hardware does not meet the requirements for the game, you have the choice to purchase the game or not. Game companys are not gonna be making games that are gonna support older hardware forever. I mean look at BF2 2GB of ram to run textures on high, who would have thought of that last year? Not me to play the best you need to get the best.
BF2 is a taste of what will come within the next few years. My 6600GT can run any current game quite well but this time next year i am very doubtfull. Stay active on all tech sites and keep up to date on the latest hardware and games.

www.tomshardware.com (http://www.tomshardware.com)
www.anandtech.com (http://www.anandtech.com)
www.xbitlabs.com (http://www.xbitlabs.com)
www.hardwarezone.com (http://www.hardwarezone.com)
www.hexus.net (http://www.hexus.net)
www.gamespy.com (http://www.gamespy.com)
www.gamespot.com (http://www.gamespot.com)
www.ign.com
Thank you Maine for coming to my rescue, another voice of sanity.

[ToneDog]

as if nothing have said

his comments were responded clearly if you have read them over

[sixx]

i have 9200 same deal worked before, well w.e since J train is a smartass how about you buy us all new cards then? some of us have rent and other things to pay for and we dont still live at home with mommy and daddy.

[ToneDog]

funny how $marta$$s backs off when a line like that shows up

[MachineGunDave]

What do you guys expect us to do? You have old cards. BF2 is a game which requires a bit of hardware to play. We aren't wizards, we can't conjure up anything here for ya. The only advice you will get is either, downgrade and play on any servers using old patch, or try every graphics driver you can get your hands on. DICE may or may not fix this. While they want alot of people to play their games, they gotta draw the line on hardware at some point. If you fall below that line, you fall below that line. Don't take it out on the rest of us.

[_SilentXScope_]

we arent trying to take it out on you guys but you guys keep telling us to get a better card and some of us dont have that much money so we can be like "oh i think ill buy a new video card today. $300 isnt that much" yeah right . we are just mad because some of the posters dont get we dont have alot of money to spend on a computer. so please stop telling us to buy new vid cards post if oyou can actually help us out. im not meaning to gripe you out dave but some of us just dont have the money right now and we have to make do with what we have.

and thanks for those suggestions dave.

[ToneDog]

did i say i specifically asked for you rich boys to program a new patch for me tonight?

[_SilentXScope_]

i just cant believe im gonna hve to switch to nvidia

if i really have to i mean. if no hotfix or patch comes out.

[ToneDog]

i'm getting an X700 seems no one is complaining about it and its 100

i'm aiming for a cheap alternative to last 2 years

once im in university cafes will safisfy

after that cash will be poping up all over the place

[paymon]

i have 9200 and im laggin like a mofo, im so ****ed. IS THERE ANYTHING THAT CAN HELP ME ? must i buy a new card :(

[_SilentXScope_]

^^^ i think you might have to. but im gonna wait it out. before i buy

hah me too once i get out of high school and get into college im buying the best i can buy i mean a computer

[paymon]

im in 9th grade and have around 1200 saved up, i was gunna buya good pc with a rele rele good card, (all would cost like 4k) so i decided to get a tv for my 360 :/ i will get the graphics card to play bf in like a month or 2 too see if some1 can fix this problem

[sixx]

btw iam not taking it out on anyone its just assholes like jtrain who sit there and tell us we need better this and that and blah blah we suck, it gets annoying especailly since i think mommy and daddy buy him everything. Oh well back to CS:S till this gets figured out or untill i have enough spare cash to buy a new card *sigh*

[_SilentXScope_]

i know what you mean about the *sigh* part.

[SFR-MAINE]

btw iam not taking it out on anyone its just assholes like jtrain who sit there and tell us we need better this and that and blah blah we suck, it gets annoying especailly since i think mommy and daddy buy him everything. Oh well back to CS:S till this gets figured out or untill i have enough spare cash to buy a new card *sigh*

Well to play the best sometimes you need to get the best. Don't take it out on jtrain he is just stating the facts. And i highly doubt someone else paid for his PC. You can't belive that all new games are gonna support older hardware look at the geforce4 was once great in it's time but not now. Soon all current hardware will be obsolete it's PC gaming life time to get use to it.

[Meannoo]

Ok, I am convinced. So it is time to buy a new videocard. I live in Holland so I searched the dutch market and there are so many videocards for sale that I don't have any idea anymore what I shall buy. I still have an agp motherboard, so can't buy pci-e. I saw this on ebay

http://cgi.ebay.nl/Brand-New-Galaxy-Geforce-6800GT-AGP-256MB-Direct-Sell-1_W0QQitemZ8765673652QQcategoryZ40161QQssPageNameZ WD2VQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

could anyone look and see if it is a good buy? The 6800gt 256 looks like a good videocard, but in stores here it is at least 350 euro's. This is almost half. Is it ok?
Thank you

[SFR-MAINE]

did i say i specifically asked for you rich boys to program a new patch for me tonight?

I can assure you i am not rich, i just buy all my parts at the right time when prices fall and demand drops, watch for sales etc. I have just developed a strategy on how to go about hardware, prices, games etc. buy your cheapest parts first then get the most expensive stuff last so prices will drop when it is time to buy the expensive items (CPU,MEM,Video card)