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Ace101
07-25-2006, 06:55 PM
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We as a community have been given the chance to beta test the 1.4 patch for Battlefield 2. Although many people have downloaded it, there are only a few official servers that have players in them right now (Click here (http://www.game-monitor.com/search.php?search=beta&type=server&game=bf2) to see the server list).
Out of the 51 servers listed at that link, only 10 of them have players in them and only 5 of them have more than 20 players currently playing. To make sure that we get to beta test future patches, we must first concentrate on this one. Do your part and EA/DICE will do theirs!
We finally have been given the chance to have HUGE say in a patch, lets not let this opportunity pass us by!
1.4 Beta 2 Full (521.64MB) Mirrors
• TotalBF2 (http://totalbf2.filecloud.com/files/file.php?user_file_id=208446)
• EA FTP (ftp://159.153.197.99/pub/patches/BF2/BETA/BF2_Beta_Full_v2.zip)
• BF2s (http://files.bf2s.com/details.php?file=441)
1.4 Beta 2 Incremental (137.50MB) Mirrors
• TotalBF2 (http://totalbf2.filecloud.com/files/file.php?user_file_id=208447)
• EA FTP (ftp://159.153.197.99/pub/patches/BF2/BETA/BF2_Beta_Incr_v2.zip)
• BF2s (http://files.bf2s.com/details.php?file=442)
MyIS Servers Running 1.4 Beta 2 Patch
• 72.232.120.130:16567 - Road to Jalalabad 24/7 16
• 72.232.120.138:16567 - Road to Jalalabad 24/7 32
• 72.232.120.146:16567 - Road to Jalalabad 24/7 64
• 72.232.120.154:16567 - No Vehicles 16
• 72.232.120.170:16567 - No Vehicles 32
Doctor
07-25-2006, 07:03 PM
hrmm no offence but I'm pretty sure I did "my part" when I bought their buggy half finished game
SillyHalfMexican
07-25-2006, 07:06 PM
I have tried it out, and I do appreciate the fact that EA/Dice are finally starting to want to get involved more with the community.
I still have 1.4 installed, but due to the fact that barely any people are playing, I don't play it much.
People in the BF2 community whine about stuff and wish that they can do something to make a change, and now have a chance to... But what do they do? OMG IM NOT INSTALLING BETA STUFF, OMG THATS TOO MUCH WORK FOR ME TO DO... Yada yada yada, if you guys truely cared about the longevity of BF2, you'd give 1.4 beta a shot. It's really not all that bad on installing 1.4 and still be able to play 1.3.
I enjoy Jalalalabad, and can't wait for the 1.4 official patch. I will continue to try out any beta patches. But until a lot more people get un-lazy and participate, then I won't be playing as much.
Would also like to see some more 1.4 beta US East Coast servers as well. Lag doesn't help much when beta testing something (can't tell if it's lag or the patch it self).
=[MI5]=RJW
07-25-2006, 07:09 PM
I have tested BF2 1.4 on numerous ocassions but found that the patch was fine. The only problem i have with it is there is still a glitch in building on a map and no one takes a blind bit of notice. Maybe i will play some more now... keep it going peeps if you think theres something wrong tell DICE/EA!!
RocketChef
07-25-2006, 07:13 PM
I think I know the cause of the AF and EF beta server emptiness at least... All who put their last hope into the beta and downloaded it were not this stupid to buy anything before the main game is fixed :).
BTW:
Where is Beta 3 with a first anti-dolphin-diving measure etc.? My fun is fading while playing inf-only on jalalalalabad this way... The Beta releases are coming too rarely IMO.
darkthunder
07-25-2006, 07:14 PM
I've posted several of the bugs that I found in Beta 1 on their official "bug posting" list, and not a single one of them got fixed by the time of Beta 2. The login process is a lot faster in 1.4 Beta 2 then it is in 1.3. But they need to fix stuff like the imbalance of the J10 vs other planes, or the fact that airplanes totally dominate a map vs ground vehicles/units. No "rock/scissors/paper" there anyways.
As for beta's, does anyone know how the 2142 beta is suppose to work? Will it be as open as the patch beta's have been, or do we need to apply to join the beta?
Lailonn
07-25-2006, 07:15 PM
You see...no one is playing that because no one believe in testing. Look at changelog for beta 1 and 2 and you will see that nothing was fixed. New map and new infantry mod is just to keep us quiet.
1.4 Beta 1:
- Reversion: Allowing unlocks on unranked servers(to make msile on noobs faces)
- Fix/Reversion: We fixed the issue preventing mod teams from running multiple game modes in one map list.(Added in 1.3)
- Tuning: We have lowered the number of players needed to start a ranked game.(playing 32 map with 8 players are not fun so what...)
- Tuning: We have made some modifications to the vehicle drop feature introduced in 1.3. These changes should reduce the overall impact of "cartillery" on game play.(added in 1.3)
- Crash Fix: We have located and fixed a crash connected to 1.3.(added in 1.3)
Beta 2
Road to Jalalabad:
- Tickets adjustements
- Removal of 1 US tank to help address balance issues.
No Vehicles Option:
- Added a new Server Browser Filter option for No Vehicles
- Return Health to default BF2 level
- Return Medic pack and Revive values to Default BF2
- Default spawn times to Default BF2 setting.
- No Vehicles is now a ranked server option!
We kept:
- Keep the current sprint bar setting (I.e. 2x sprint)
- Keep the current Vehicle exclusion list (i.e. we are not introducing light jeeps etc, just keeping the boats on Carrier levels).
Beta 2 is only for new map and game mod. So we have 3 bugs fixed in 1.4 for now and two useless addons. All 3 bugs was added in patch 1.3. So what the hell they were doing whole this time? Tell me? No vehicles/guns balance until now. Still almost 50 bugs in game so what for are those beta test? They know what is wrong in that game but they don't care about that. They are making new "hiper cool BF" and they give us new map and mod ONLY to keep us quiet and help selling 2142 which will be "less bugged. Our testers are doing theit job much better now" NOW? And what about this game which already you have sold out?
They said that 1.4 will fix many bugs not changing game but hey they fix only 3 bugs and change infantry AGAIN.
RocketChef
07-25-2006, 07:19 PM
As for beta's, does anyone know how the 2142 beta is suppose to work? Will it be as open as the patch beta's have been, or do we need to apply to join the beta?
You can apply to this beta by dropping by your local games dealer this october :).
Killuminati
07-25-2006, 07:20 PM
I installed it, played it for a while, although part of the reason i dont play anymore is the lack of people, but also its in the second beta now, and all they have given us is IO changes.
I read somewhere that they aren't going to implement any gameplay changes untill the CTD problem is fixed completely. Well when will that be?
ww2freak
07-25-2006, 07:20 PM
Come work for EA - for free!!! :rolleyes:
Heavy552 AWG
07-25-2006, 07:22 PM
Change the BF2 Beta program to be a seperate self/installer executable.
THEN I will beta test, I refuse to risk destroying my retail installion if something went wrong with the convoulted Beta intstall instructions.
Another reason is the lack of extensive Change List. Indicates a lack of motivation by DICE or EA to really fix BF2 completely before 2142.
Scinto
07-25-2006, 07:28 PM
Change the BF2 Beta program to be a seperate self/installer executable.
THEN I will beta test, I refuse to horkup my retail installion if something went wrong with the convoulted Beta intstall instructions.
uhm y not just make a copy of the bf2 folder install patch and rename theres a guide to it somewhere,, its not rocket science...
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as for the topic... why test something which in itself is well useless? okay people wanted more maps but not a new game mode, bf2 would be fine if they actually botherd to fix the original problems 1st time around...
kinda reminds me of MS they release a Service Pack to supposedly fix problems when it just ends up making more all so they can just pi$$ you off
Too Little, Too Late......................:confused:
Killuminati
07-25-2006, 07:29 PM
I've posted several of the bugs that I found in Beta 1 on their official "bug posting" list, and not a single one of them got fixed by the time of Beta 2. The login process is a lot faster in 1.4 Beta 2 then it is in 1.3. But they need to fix stuff like the imbalance of the J10 vs other planes, or the fact that airplanes totally dominate a map vs ground vehicles/units. No "rock/scissors/paper" there anyways.
As for beta's, does anyone know how the 2142 beta is suppose to work? Will it be as open as the patch beta's have been, or do we need to apply to join the beta?
From the video i watched of some guy at dice, forgot his name, it was the 40 minutes long interview one. He said that the Beta program for 2142 will be INVITE only.
Vintageologist
07-25-2006, 07:34 PM
I will install it as soon as I find a possibility to gain more space for the backup of the old files... my HD is pretty packed right now. But I do appreciate that there is an open Beta for everyone.
Supertech
07-25-2006, 07:35 PM
EA would be wise to release a 1.4 Linux PATCH for servers seeing how 80% of the servers out there are Linux. Everythime those idiots relese a patch anyone running a Linux BF 2 server has to run the entire installer again via SSH and then reconfigure BF2cc again etc etc etc. SO anyone who knows how to set up a Linux BF2 server knows what Im talking about. Anyone whos never set up a BF2 server (including BF2cc) in Linux via SSH STFU. LOL
[MyIS]Crrrazzzy
07-25-2006, 07:36 PM
From the video i watched of some guy at dice, forgot his name, it was the 40 minutes long interview one. He said that the Beta program for 2142 will be INVITE only.
i heard that in that interview as well ..... but who's to say that if we give them great feedback here...... that it won't change
i know for a fact that if a company gets what tehy are looking for in 1 area .. .why would they leave it to go to another .... lets show them that the community can do this....
all they need. .. is for you to play on the server.
As 1 of the GSP's supplying the equipment i can tell you for certain they are looking at TONS of data on a daily basis ..... from us alone... nevermind what the other gps's are sending them ....
but in that data = empty servers ......... we need YOU in there testing them and making them crash so they can see whats broken and fix it :salute:
EA would be wise to release a 1.4 Linux PATCH for servers seeing how 80% of the servers out there are Linux. Everythime those idiots relese a patch anyone running a Linux BF 2 server has to run the entire installer again via SSH and then reconfigure BF2cc again etc etc etc. SO anyone who knows how to set up a Linux BF2 server knows what Im talking about. Anyone whos never set up a BF2 server (including BF2cc) in Linux via SSH STFU. LOL
all of our server running 1.4 Beta2 are infact *nix based :)
Dark0ne
07-25-2006, 07:39 PM
Beta testing isn't my job, that's for DICE to do. The community can hardly be to blame for the fact DICE cannot release a working patch and I have little faith in the idea that the community will be listened to if they report bugs in the game. Instead I see it more as a scapegoat for DICE to fall back on if the next patch is buggy ("hey, you guys got to beta test it too!") and also as a way to take more time on releasing the patch (and freeing up more people to work on 2142 in the hope it'll be better than QW -- which it won't).
Knight Rider
07-25-2006, 07:42 PM
I would gladly test the 1.4 patch, IF i was able to test it on my server also ;)
[TxM]Spitfire
07-25-2006, 07:52 PM
you know people whould download it if there was a way to unstall the patch so they can still play current full patch
SuperTyphoon
07-25-2006, 07:58 PM
I don't play on the beta servers any more because there are usually no infantry only ones and if there are, nobody is playing in them. No servers are populated so i find 1.3 ones or mods to play.
Spitfire']you know people whould download it if there was a way to unstall the patch so they can still play current full patch
There is:)
Just create a separate bf2 directory and install both patches at the same time!
GanjaTron
07-25-2006, 08:03 PM
Beta testing isn't my job, that's for DICE to do. The community can hardly be to blame for the fact DICE cannot release a working patch and I have little faith in the idea that the community will be listened to if they report bugs in the game. Instead I see it more as a scapegoat for DICE to fall back on if the next patch is buggy ("hey, you guys got to beta test it too!") and also as a way to take more time on releasing the patch (and freeing up more people to work on 2142 in the hope it'll be better than QW -- which it won't).
Boom!! Thank you.. It isn't our job to find their bugs. You've ****ted on the community enough. Now I'm offically done with the POS game.. you've had over a year to fix this.. but yet you keep screwing the community.
Lailonn
07-25-2006, 08:06 PM
This is Bugs list from Polish community. We created this many weeks ago . I have send this list to EA and get "thanks" from them for that. it was before first 1.4 info. Please tell me how many bugs from this list(some of those are exploits) was fixed in 1.4 beta 2 ? As i wrote in last post, 3 ! They don't care about BF2 anymore. 1.4 will be the last patch and it will not fix even 1% of all bugs...
1) Sometimes „Join Game” screen appears again although we're already in the game.
2) When Squad Leader is in place where he can’t stand up, squad members can’t respawn on him but respawn icon is still green.
3) Sometimes supply drop doesn’t appear at all.
4) Type 85 can shot only in auto mode.
5) Sometimes gunner can’t control TV rocket.
6) Red/Blue name tag bug is still here.
7) Sometimes nothing happens after firing a TV rocket, instead it just loads next one.
8 ) Some bullets don’t hit target. You can shoot whole clip to an enemy but he will survive. It happens in tanks too.
9) Changing sits in a helicopter disturbs AA rockets' locking on you. Locking on should continue even when you change place in a vehicle.
10) Sometimes ammo packs and health packs fall inside the map. It affects C4 also, moreover they fall inside vehicles too.
11) Sometimes instead of one, we throw two ammo packs, health packs, grenades at once. After few seconds one disappears.
12) Commander is able to spot an enemy even without Scan or UAV. He should have spotting ability only while scan is in progress. When scan is over and info about enemy had disappeared, he should not be able to spot enemies until next scan/UAV.
13) In some cases revived player doesn't have his kit.
14) Sometimes when you change back to TV mode after some time, instead of ready rocket you will find that it's reloading again.
15) Sometimes rockets go through objects. It happens to all types of rockets.
16) Game doesn’t show other players' animation properly. When you change to stand/crouch position very fast while being behind a wall etc., you will be able to see and shoot enemy behind it but enemy won’t see you for short time. Also going to prone position takes more time for animation than for hitboxes.
17) Jeep drop should work like supply drop. It shouldn’t drop exactly in pointed place.
18 ) Planes shouldn’t be able to slow down so much, that they are able to shoot down helicopters with gun only and then fly away using boost. They should fall down and crash.
19) Sometimes claymores don’t work at all, in other situations they blow up when we are few meters away from them.
20) When player is laying behind obstacle his legs stick out on the other side.
21) Jeeps shouldn't be allowed to be dropped on buildings, etc.
22) AK guns should be less accurate. Often they win fight on long distance with M16 and on short they overpower it with better damage and auto mode.
23) Game crashes too often.
24) After TK with claymore/mine both players should get negative scores.
25) After 1.3 servers are crashing more often.
26) Vehicles lose hp even when they pull off from small hill.
27) Player loses hit points when he runs downstairs.
28 ) You can’t control your character for a moment after running on top of the stairs. Many players fall down from Construction building on Sharqi Peninsula because of that.
29) Sometimes you must use defibrillator 2-3 times to revive someone.
30) Shooting sound loops sometimes. It happens usually with unlocked weapons.
31) Server browser doesn’t show information properly.
32) Sometimes vehicles on mini map have player icon.
33) When player gets in dropped jeep he will have “drop” icon over his head.
34) Sometimes zoom in sniper rifles, AT changes back to normal mode. Even if we don’t click at all.
35) Spawn map appears again even if we close it using “X”.
36) J10 maneuverability should be decreased or AA rockets should be much more effective against it.
37) F15 maneuverability should be increased.
38 ) AA rockets should be a bit more effective against F18.
39) Plane cannons should be more effective against other planes.
40) Planes can destroy AA turrets before they are in their sight. They shouldn’t be able to attack so precisely before they see their target.
41) Sometimes enemy unit spotted by commander is displayed with green icon or is not displayed at all.
42) Vehicle drop can destroy artillery or other vehicles.
43) In 1.3 logging and map loading take more time.
44) Disconnecting without any reasons.
45) Sometimes Stinger can lock on enemy chopper from further than normal distance. You can get lock on Sharqi Peninsula by Stinger from MEC base when you are near TV Station.
46) Player can get inside some buildings like Hotel on Strike At Karkand.
47) Sometimes you need to press fire button few times when you are sitting in TOW to shoot.
48 ) Sometimes enemy helicopter is not showed on map after being spotted.
49) UAVs shouldn’t fly on the same altitude. They sometimes destroy each other.
50) When you are shooting with M4 at people in MEC/China jeeps bullets go through them without making any damage.
51) Defibrillator should have shorter range. Medic should crouch next to wounded guy to help him.
52) Planes and choppers are crashing when they hit parachute.
53) When player is lying on a building and looks downwards it looks like he is looking forward. You should crouch to look down when being on edge of building etc.
54) Medic heals himself when he is in a vehicle.
55) Sometimes artillery doesn’t do any damage even when it hits near the target.
56) Medic should be able to revive other player only after he calls for medic.
57) Claymores should be destroyable with grenades
58 ) Player should be able to change squad when he is dead but after that game should add time to respawn, maybe 10s.
59) Players should be able to write in chat in pause mode.
60) Alternative server browsers like All Seeing Eye should work without any problems.
61) Vehicle moving from the respawn place should push away other players, not kill them.
62) Server information menu in game is always showing standard port.
63) Commander can use his menu even when he is dead. He just opens squads' menu and clicks right mouse button few times on the map.
64) Smoke grenades should works longer and be more effective.
65) Assault should have two smoke grenades.
66) Sometimes game identifies us as Privates although we have higher rank.
Dangerdog
07-25-2006, 08:06 PM
Played beta 2, bugs found, bugs reported.
They took down the official bug reporting sticky threads on the UK forums, they need to either put out a “Release Candidate” patch to stress test or push out the 1.4 patch as final (hopefully with the bugs reported in beta 2 fixed), even if it’s not perfect if all it did were fix the server crashing issues it would be a relief to a lot of players.
Either way, an official update as to the status of the 1.4 patch would be welcome.
Scinto
07-25-2006, 08:06 PM
Spitfire']you know people whould download it if there was a way to unstall the patch so they can still play current full patch
did you read the readme file that comes with the patch?
Mr_Mondo
07-25-2006, 08:07 PM
if i DL the beta will i have to uninstall and reinstall when when the actual patch comes out?
and where can i look at the readme?
Its true, I think that we all need to get more involved. I think they are finally giving us a chance to speak our minds and they will listen to us.
I admit that I haven't messed with it yet. I have it downloaded, but when I went to dupe my bf2 folder, it told me that I have about 52 minutes remaining...eh...I didn't have time to wait that long.:rolleyes:
I think I will give it a shot this weekend.
slip777
07-25-2006, 08:25 PM
The original unpatched BF2 was near perfect, now they've ****ed it up so much it's a completely different game. I won't be buying 2142, or any DICE developed game for that matter.
elstonieo
07-25-2006, 08:29 PM
at the moment there are about as many players playing 1.4beta as there are most mods. To fix it EA needed/needs to have 20ish offical servers(around the world) playing beta 1.4 that have there stats count otherwise ur avarage joe player wont even bother.
Dangerdog
07-25-2006, 08:29 PM
I downloaded both beta patches, the READ ME FIRST.doc was in beta 1 but not beta 2 zip file.
Beta Disclaimer
Greetings!
By taking part in this BETA you are accepting the risks related to the use of non-final code. EA & DICE are not responsible for any harm caused by the use of these files. EA will not provide customer support for any issues related to the use of any BETA related files. Any issues experienced during the use of these files should be reported to the EA Battlefield2 forums.
Helpful Tips:
Installation steps to protect your original BF2 install:
Beta Installation
1. Go to “C:\Program Files\EA GAMES”
2. Right click the “Battlefield 2” folder and choose “Copy”
3. Right click anywhere away from this folder and choose “Paste”
4. Once the copy has completed, you will have two folders named “Battlefield 2” and “Copy of Battlefield 2”
5. Install the patch 1.4 beta, then start the game as normal
When you wish to switch back to the release version of BF2, use the following steps:
1. Go to “C:\Program Files\EA GAMES”
2. Right click the “Battlefield 2” folder and choose “Rename”
3. Rename the folder to something like “Battlefield 2 Beta”
4. Right click the “Copy of Battlefield 2” folder
5. Rename the folder the “Battlefield 2”
6. Start the game as normal.
The shortcut will run BF2.exe from whichever folder is named “Battlefield 2” and both installations share the same registry entries.
Using the above steps will negate the need to completely uninstall and re-install whenever you wish to switch from the retail version to the beta version and vice versa.
Feedback & Bug Reporting: There will be threads hosted on the EA forums in which you can provide your feedback on the 1.4 patch. Please direct all feedback to these lists and not to customer service. Customer Service will not provide support for any Patch Beta issues. We are eager to receive your feedback on this patch beta! Post feedback -> HERE (http://www.totalbf2.com/forums/showthread.php?t=83198)
Communicate in game: When playing in one of the BETA servers make sure to communicate any issues you see to others in the server. This will allow you to quickly discover if the issues you experience are unique to you or not.
Screenshots: It is extremely helpful to our development teams to be able to have a visual reference for any issues or feedback you provide. Whenever possible please provide a screenshot with your bug reports or feedback.
Crash Logs: If you experience a crash please check your dmp file located at: C:\Documents and Settings\<xxx>\My Documents\Battlefield 2\Dmp. Report your crash in the Official EA Forums and be prepared to provide the dump file if requested.
DX Diag report: For any technical issue experienced we may need you to provide your system spec and driver information. All of this can be gathered by selecting the ‘run’ option in the start menu and entering “dxdiag” then pressing Enter.
Dandred
07-25-2006, 08:29 PM
Downloaded the first 1.4, the only serers I could test on kicked me because of high ping. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Papi4baby
07-25-2006, 08:36 PM
Well looki looki here, you know what DICE and EA F@ck you. Look at all the bugs other players have reported, and what have you done about it. Game balance issues are still there so no, take your beta and shove it where the sun dont shine. Quit trying to add **** to the game and fix it for once in your sorry career as game developers.
Tiberiansun292
07-25-2006, 08:39 PM
ok wtf. i just made a post about this and stay in the server for like an hour and a half and no one came up. am i the only one that really cares about bf2.
{EDIT}
here is the post that i made. yesterday.
http://www.totalbf2.com/forums/showthread.php?t=86523
and i spent over an hour and a half in the server. waiting and testing some stuff. and i found some new weak points on the tank might help a lot of people. but you shold have been there to find out.
Raudi
07-25-2006, 08:46 PM
Beta testing isn't my job, that's for DICE to do.
Thank you! Especially the clans pay 100$ and more for every-day-crashing-ranked-servers. So we pay enough money - and spend time - for beta-testing!
EA should read the list above: there are enough bugs to fix, or?
Mr Pmosh
07-25-2006, 08:53 PM
why do you want more players? Did you see all the post and polls about what the community really wants? The Dice guy that post in total bf2 say NO to all of them. Even he admit they are good idea he say is too late. So they already make up theirs mind about what is coming in 1.4, is useless to test it. Just take a look at the Dice feedback part of the forum. Things like more points per repair, teampoints for killing armor with AT kit and the beefing up of he black hawk was all denied by DICE. Even they are multiples polls in this and other forum that the huge majority of the community want. Its no use to test it. They already make up their minds.
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Red Devil
07-25-2006, 08:57 PM
All the bunny-hopping, dolphin-diving kids out there ruin it for me and keep me away.
imported_wolfiejr
07-25-2006, 08:58 PM
At least they are trying to be nice.I will help test!
Killuminati
07-25-2006, 09:02 PM
Crrrazzzy']i heard that in that interview as well ..... but who's to say that if we give them great feedback here...... that it won't change
i know for a fact that if a company gets what tehy are looking for in 1 area .. .why would they leave it to go to another .... lets show them that the community can do this....
all they need. .. is for you to play on the server.
As 1 of the GSP's supplying the equipment i can tell you for certain they are looking at TONS of data on a daily basis ..... from us alone... nevermind what the other gps's are sending them ....
but in that data = empty servers ......... we need YOU in there testing them and making them crash so they can see whats broken and fix it :salute:
I understand where you are commng from, and if it was BETA1 still than i would have no problem and fully agree with you.
The thing is, they need to give us an incentive, they promised that they will increase the number of servers, yet to me, its still the same number. Second, in BETA2, there weren't many changes made, only just the gameplay of IO and map fixes.
All i want from EA is a couple of things to fix. And it does not concern game play just ACTUAL bugs.
1. Fix the HIT indicators in all JETS. The only working HIT indicator is in the SU-34, the rest do not work.
2. Fix the Collision mesh of the F-35. Its a flying coffin as it is, simply (and let me illustrate) because of this.
http://mya.home.mchsi.com/F35B-09.jpg
Fix it so it could look like more this.
http://mya.home.mchsi.com/MIG29-08.jpg
3. Fix the Hit detection in general. If they do this, then i believe the missles going through vehicles, TV's going through objects, will iron out.
4. (Optional) Hide the weapon when the player goes from Standing/Crouch to prone.
5. Replace the USS ESSEX missles from AIM9X(sp?) (Sidewinder) that you find on the F-35, F18, and F15 to the GROUND base missles aka Stingers. The reason they miss so much is becuase they are actually the same missles as the planes, not the ground/mobile AA.
6. Fix the invert mouse bug. Where i have my mouse inverted in all vehicles in game, yet when i use the TV missile its not.
All this does not require a lot of code, well maybe the hit detection bug does.
If these gets implemented, then i'll be happy with what EA is doing.
Hurricane.CAD
07-25-2006, 09:03 PM
Tip to EA: PUT MORE US SERVERS BOTH NORMAL AND INFANTRY ONLY
I found 1 US server.
[MyIS]Crrrazzzy
07-25-2006, 09:04 PM
for the record ..... this topic was made by TBF2 to try to make a difference and doing jsut as we asked (when we as a community begged for open beta) and testing as much as we can ....
at the end of the day. .....
if you don't want to test ..... don't
if you want to try and make a difference i will be on one of these servers ....... testing everything i can http://www.game-monitor.com/search.php?search=gamever=1.1.2940-772.0&type=variable&game=bf2&country=US :salute:
Tiberiansun292
07-25-2006, 09:04 PM
well y didnt guys come to ther server that i posted up.
{EDIT}
and crazy i have been testing. i have sent over 2 new bugs to CKMC.
[MyIS]Crrrazzzy
07-25-2006, 09:07 PM
see this is the kind of stuff i am talking about ....
VERY valid points and you can bet they will see this :)
I understand where you are commng from, and if it was BETA1 still than i would have no problem and fully agree with you.
The thing is, they need to give us an incentive, they promised that they will increase the number of servers, yet to me, its still the same number. Second, in BETA2, there weren't many changes made, only just the gameplay of IO and map fixes.
All i want from EA is a couple of things to fix. And it does not concern game play just ACTUAL bugs.
1. Fix the HIT indicators in all JETS. The only working HIT indicator is in the SU-34, the rest do not work.
2. Fix the Collision mesh of the F-35. Its a flying coffin as it is, simply (and let me illustrate) because of this.
http://mya.home.mchsi.com/F35B-09.jpg
Fix it so it could look like more this.
http://mya.home.mchsi.com/MIG29-08.jpg
3. Fix the Hit detection in general. If they do this, then i believe the missles going through vehicles, TV's going through objects, will iron out.
4. (Optional) Hide the weapon when the player goes from Standing/Crouch to prone.
5. Replace the USS ESSEX missles from AIM9X(sp?) (Sidewinder) that you find on the F-35, F18, and F15 to the GROUND base missles aka Stingers. The reason they miss so much is becuase they are actually the same missles as the planes, not the ground/mobile AA.
6. Fix the invert mouse bug. Where i have my mouse inverted in all vehicles in game, yet when i use the TV missile its not.
All this does not require a lot of code, well maybe the hit detection bug does.
If these gets implemented, then i'll be happy with what EA is doing.
well y didnt guys come to ther server that i posted up.
{EDIT}
and crazy i have been testing. i have sent over 2 new bugs to CKMC.
you rock:banana:
David Champion
07-25-2006, 09:18 PM
Honestly if the game was fresh... before the release I am sure you'd find Ooodles of people to BETA it but it's been out almost a year or a year and it just seems like any other patch to me...
Perhaps with BF2142, if it is in fact going to be a "Public BETA" from the get go, it'll produce better results, but its had scads of patches and numerous pleas for help and I honestly have only had, at best, CTD's which were few and far between... If EA/Dice felt that comfortable with BF2 way back when, then why are they trying this so late in the game. Yeah, yeah they are listening to the community but they should'a did that from the first patch...
I'll download the patch when it's available and I am sure it'll still have its problems, with whomever has a problem with it... You can please some of the people some of the time but you can't please all of the people all of the time.
Tiberiansun292
07-25-2006, 09:30 PM
well i just found another bug. when you are AT and you jump then come down. you can fire 2 rockets at the same time. i got video of it to.
Soldat.Sauer
07-25-2006, 09:39 PM
Hi everyone,
first post tada :D
But right to the point, i know its really easy to try the patch 1.4 beta2 once you read the "Read this first.txt"
So please add to the news also a little explanation to the install procedure, maybe this would also motivate some players to try it.
RedDot
07-25-2006, 09:42 PM
I downloaded it, but I can't play v1.4 anymore: it says I play BF2 with changed gamesettings!
*{82nd)*Commando
07-25-2006, 09:46 PM
We finally have been given the chance to have HUGE say in a patch, lets not let this opportunity pass us by!
Are you serious? HUGE? LMFAO!
They are not even listening to anyone buddy!!! Look in your own forum....
Well looki looki here, you know what DICE and EA F@ck you. Look at all the bugs other players have reported, and what have you done about it. Game balance issues are still there so no, take your beta and shove it where the sun dont shine. Quit trying to add **** to the game and fix it for once in your sorry career as game developers.
AMEN! I'm sorry, but I agree with this 110%
ITS TOO LATE EA/DICE !!! You never listened at first and your still not listening now....so why in the heck should we do anything for you? You fixed 3 bugs in....good lord...how long? Sorry, your not doing jack about 99.9% of the major things needed fixed, so yeah....as soon as DCON and POE and a few others are released, I will be done will all your crappy worthless Vanilla!!!
I had to be blunt, because you just plain suck EA/DICE, you care NOTHING about your gaming community, you only care for yourselves and the next buck you can make off of us....I'm done with you guys~!
{TKM}MiK
07-25-2006, 09:53 PM
Are you serious? HUGE? LMFAO!
They are not even listening to anyone buddy!!! Look in your own forum....
Well looki looki here, you know what DICE and EA F@ck you. Look at all the bugs other players have reported, and what have you done about it. Game balance issues are still there so no, take your beta and shove it where the sun dont shine. Quit trying to add **** to the game and fix it for once in your sorry career as game developers.
Basicaly what he said and everyone knows it.
Mr_Mondo
07-25-2006, 09:56 PM
which one do i DL full or incrmintal
tk471138
07-25-2006, 09:58 PM
ok fools now its time all you people complaining about beta testing better do it now
Tiberiansun292
07-25-2006, 10:05 PM
dude i have been doing it ever sence it came out. i guess i am the only one who does any testing around here.
GanjaTron
07-25-2006, 10:27 PM
Crrrazzzy']for the record ..... this topic was made by TBF2 to try to make a difference and doing jsut as we asked (when we as a community begged for open beta) and testing as much as we can ....
at the end of the day. .....
if you don't want to test ..... don't
if you want to try and make a difference i will be on one of these servers ....... testing everything i can http://www.game-monitor.com/search.php?search=gamever=1.1.2940-772.0&type=variable&game=bf2&country=US :salute:
haha, are you serious? why test when they clearly didn't listen to what was broken the first time. Maybe they should have fixed the bugs we reported the first time, and we would have been a little more keen to jump on the beta servers. Sorry Crazy, you know as well as I do and the track record of EA/DICE since launch.. so don't pretend this will make a difference. Until 'they' make a radical change in their community support you will continue to see post after post of negative comments.
machstem
07-25-2006, 10:28 PM
We did our part. By buying the game in june/july 2005 and expecting a continuously and ever improving game, not one riddled with bugs after patches.
EA/DICE's part was to provide a great game, and they did that. It's too bad it could not "stay" great, and more-so mediocre. Open BETA testing should have been offered previous to the game's release, not [insert # here] releases later.
PEACE
imported_SuperChicken
07-25-2006, 10:28 PM
EA you have no one to blame but yourself. It has been over a year since the release of BF2 and you have done nothing to unify the community. In fact all you have done is divide the community further.
Your marketing ploy of milking every dollar from the community is a prime example. Instead of fixing the major bugs of the game you have spent your time developing 3 mods to sell. SF, AF, and EF while making some money have completely split the community into 3 distinct camps; and with the release of 2142 you will again divide the community.
Now that you have sucked all the money from the fan boys and diehards you have decided to try to finish the initial game. Too little to late. I AM NOT A BETA TESTER!! IT IS NOT MY JOB!! This game should have been tested and re-tested before it was released. Instead you rushed it out the door so that the executive could have a fat Christmas bonus.
For ever step forward, this game has taken two steps backward. In the case of some people the game has become unplayable. In the case of others they have simple stopped playing. Others are waiting for mods; while others have simply moved on never to return.
It’s a shame to see the BF series in this state of decline. Make no mistake about it, despite the fact there are many servers still populate this game is in decline. The simple reasons for this are that the fan boys and diehards still buy into your stats system; many people are waiting for other games to be released and are just passing the time; still others are hoping despite the odds that BF will return to its former glory.
But just like any other company driven by profits you have simply forgot what made you and your product a success. The fans! You have neglected those who have supported you and your products.
Make no mistake I am not a hater. I love BF1942 and BFV, they will go down as some of the greatest FPS games in history. But like many other BF2 players I have become disillusioned with the game. I have given up playing and I hold out little hope that this game will ever be fixed.
colony
07-25-2006, 10:53 PM
Crrrazzzy']see this is the kind of stuff i am talking about ....
VERY valid points and you can bet they will see this :)
you rock:banana:
Well guess what? Those images and facts have been around for months now and there has been no acknowledgement or fix from DICE in any patch or Beta. I've seen many complaining about J10 v F35 issue for so long now on many forums. And what do we get? No, not a fix. No of course not. We get some stupid Infantry only mode instead of gameplay and bug fixes.
Why arent there more testing it?
1. Its not Ranked
2. We didnt buy this game for Infantry Only crap, we want to play BATTLEFIELD
3. We have complained about everything that needs to be fixed/looked at already for months
4. Its not a new game like BF2142 is gonna be, so no rush to play a beta
imported_Mongo Only Pawn
07-25-2006, 11:02 PM
<CENTER>[IMG]Do your part and EA/DICE will do theirs!
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(BF2 - the video game incarnation of Boston's Big Dig)
MonkMachine
07-25-2006, 11:05 PM
Make them ranked and Im sure the people will play, until then doubt if many will play. The stats have changed alot in bf, for the better or worse im unsure.
Out of the 51 servers listed at that link, only 10 of them have players in them and only 5 of them have more than 20 players currently playing. To make sure that we get to beta test future patches, we must first concentrate on this one. Do your part and EA/DICE will do theirs!
We finally have been given the chance to have HUGE say in a patch, lets not let this opportunity pass us by!
Are you serious??...Let me get this rite, EA/DICE is complaining to us that not enough are on the beta servers reporting bugs???... You want us to beta test this patch and report more bugs to EA/DICE when all the bugs we've reported BEFORE the beta came out still are NOT fixed?
WHY SHOULD WE BOTHER REPORTING MORE BUGS WHEN WE'VE TRYED COUNTLESS TIMES BEFORE BUT THEY NEVER WERE FIXED.
TP.BigBoss
07-25-2006, 11:10 PM
the patch lags loads, so i will not be testing it
imported_Anonymous
07-25-2006, 11:49 PM
You know, it's just not that simple anymore. Sure a lot of us love the Battlefield series and loved Battlefield 2... but it's just not enough anymore.
How long has it been? Been over a year, and now, just NOW -- after they still can't do anything right -- they appeal to the community. And after a crappy expansion pack and two booster packs, one of which was crap, the other at least decent. But it's just not enough. I paid $50 over a year ago and I'm sick and tired of putting up with this, and sick and tired of putting up with EA.
It can be summarized as "too little too late".
Edit: And that's another thing, this whole shebang started AFTER the announcement of BF2142. EA/Dice have already moved on; and so have we.
BIGDOG
07-25-2006, 11:52 PM
Come work for EA - for free!!! :rolleyes:
HAHHAHHAHHHAHHHAHHAHHAHHHAHHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAAH . :laugh:
I would like people to come to my job and work for me also !
CensoredByGod
07-26-2006, 12:10 AM
I tested both beta's for approx. 4 Hours a peace, multiple maps, etc. I sent in a bug report to Dice/EA. What more can a player do? I am not interested in playing in Euro servers or in empty US servers (when one is actually running). I agree its a little to little, little to late.
I bought all the expansions, SF only works if I start SF I have to reboot everytime I turn off BF2 and then try to run it again later. Therefore if I try to join an SF server from BF2 I have to reboot = To much effort. I have EF and have never been abole to play it because of a typo in the original registration, EA has never given me a fix or answer, so that = 10$ out the door with nothing to show for it. I bought AF but couldnt register it to my main name (Name in use?????) Now I cant change the name because NAME IN USE???????!!!!!!!!! Of course its in use, I use it everyday. I have called EA, sent Emails to EA, begged for help and the reply?? "Thanx for the money, youll have to repurchase with the name you want to use" Ahhh yes but "THE NAME IS IN USE?????!!!!!"
As for bugs, I dont usually see any bugs, I have a pretty smooth install of the game and never had any CTD's. I do see rockets miss or go thru stuff, empty clips into noobs rolling around on the ground only to be killed by one bullet from them (While they are rolling no less), 6 missles from less than 100yrds behind another plane and they all miss?? Bombs that drop right on tanks yet dont destroy them? (Really I watched one of my bombs land directly on top of a tank and he just drove away laughing)
Maybe Ive just gotten used to the bugs and have adapted, I dunno. I dont see why EA would give a rats a** about this game anymore when they have their next big thing coming out in a few short months. Unless they are working on engine bugs that will effect 2142. Just release the damn patch with a CTD fix (for the multitude of players) and be done with it.
|.SeSo.| Snake
07-26-2006, 12:12 AM
EA dont need more testers , they need an Exculsive version for Competition players.. competition players vs. pub nubs both sides want totally different games.. and no matter what EA will listen to the bigger majority , which is pub nubs.. Competition will be Killed out of BF2 once and for all in 1.4 release.. (unless mods come out , like BF2PRO)
imported_JerseyBricklayer
07-26-2006, 12:33 AM
if u guys need more ppl.... thats probaly cuz u shoulda made it easyer to use. like in a mod form... DUHHHH... nobody wants to do all that crap u said... see my quote
Dangerdog
07-26-2006, 12:40 AM
I really broke a sweat dragging my bf2 folder and the dropping it, choosing copy here. I nearly didn’t have enough energy left to click on the beta 2 incremental install icon.
If you’re so lacking in HD space that you can’t maintain a second copy of your BF2 folder on your system then you’ll probably not be able to run the patch anyways, best to leave the beta testing to the “professionals”*
*people who are smart enough to make copies of folders
Hurricane.CAD
07-26-2006, 12:42 AM
if u guys need more ppl.... thats probaly cuz u shoulda made it easyer to use. like in a mod form... DUHHHH... nobody wants to do all that crap u said... see my quote
There are changes made to the core game itself that require the seperate folder, it couldn't be done as a mod.
B=E=N=C=H
07-26-2006, 12:47 AM
They should make the beta patch ranked too. At least you get points for helping and instead of that contest they have for participating in it.
imported_panderiz
07-26-2006, 01:01 AM
Aussies server.......................
imported_goya
07-26-2006, 01:04 AM
this is getting pathetic. does ea/dice want us to do the coding too? i think i can do a good job...
HateKILLL™
07-26-2006, 01:24 AM
Why should we test BETA 2 when they won't even fix the stuff we request ?What is the point ? I have come to believe BF2 has been a giant beta for BF 2142 that we had to pay for, because they shure as hell are not supporting what this community wants , just fix the current BUGS & quit F***ING around with exta content.
1) FIX THE CTD'S
2) FIX THE GOD DAMN TVM GOING THROUGH TARGETS
3) FIX THE XFI MISSING SOUNDS ,LIKE NOT HEARING 50CAL. HIT U IN HELI, I GO OUT AND SPEND $150 JUST FOR YOU ONLY TO F*** IT UP WITH 1.3 & NOT EVEN CARE ????
4) PLEASE FIX THE UNBALANCE OF J-10, F-35 B IS SUPOSED TO BE THE MOST ADVANCED FIGHTER IN THE WORLD !!!!!!!!!
5) I'AM SICK OF TYPING BECAUSE THERE IS SO MUCH MORE TO FIX, JUST READ THE GOD DAMN FORUMS.
These are my top 4 issues , so until you can adress these F*** YOU & your god damn beta test !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Deesies
07-26-2006, 01:29 AM
if u guys need more ppl.... thats probaly cuz u shoulda made it easyer to use. like in a mod form... DUHHHH... nobody wants to do all that crap u said... see my quote
Exactly. People can complain about people being too lazy but what does that help? they're still not going to help out cause you ***** at them.
Although I am currently downloading beta 2, there are a few reasons that are bothering me with this beta.
1: install is far too fiddly. Should make it a mod as above.
2: Lack of full changelogs. How exactly are we to test changes if we don't know what they are?
3: Taking far too long. From what I can gather, there's to be at least one more beta patch to go through testing. Given the sorry state 1.3... The ranked version is in, time isn't exactly a luxury they really have.
Not saying they should rush the testing but at the very least, they should release the fixes to the more gamestopping bugs that plague 1.3 =/
R3PUBLIC0N
07-26-2006, 01:32 AM
gimme an incentive to beta test a game I've shelled out $100 for over the past year, which lacks basic necessities like a functional browser and widescreen support.
Seriously, FYAD.
bigpappa
07-26-2006, 01:47 AM
EA dont need more testers , they need an Exculsive version for Competition players.. competition players vs. pub nubs both sides want totally different games.. and no matter what EA will listen to the bigger majority , which is pub nubs.. Competition will be Killed out of BF2 once and for all in 1.4 release.. (unless mods come out , like BF2PRO)
pubbers are better than these so called "competition" players.
[BambiKillerz]
07-26-2006, 02:21 AM
why is it when i join a server it says i have moddified data which i dont why is this
Mr Pmosh
07-26-2006, 02:32 AM
IO and the new map road to jalalabab where paid by a sponsor. This is why we have to wait for the hotfix for 1.3, because no new big change have been done. All the other bugs DIce says it take too much coding, and the bugs fixed where introduce in 1.3. Car droping was something no one ask for and IO too.
Maybe if we get an sponsor to pay EA/Dice they can make another patch that really change what the community wants.
The Defeatest
07-26-2006, 03:17 AM
pubbers are better than these so called "competition" players.
Roger that bro!
Competition altough intense is the most dolphin diving, bunny hopping completely unrealistic type of play. Anything goes, might as well be UT2004!
Now I will get flamed!
Sir. Legolas
07-26-2006, 03:37 AM
NAM-Legolas here reporting for duty and ready to help!!!
Tiberiansun292
07-26-2006, 03:50 AM
dude where where you last night. i was wating for like an hour and a half.
Nasty
07-26-2006, 04:31 AM
People in the BF2 community whine about stuff and wish that they can do something to make a change, and now have a chance to...
I think being pissed off about game crashes is more that justified. Wouldn't you say?
CensoredByGod
07-26-2006, 05:39 AM
EA dont need more testers , they need an Exculsive version for Competition players.. competition players vs. pub nubs both sides want totally different games.. and no matter what EA will listen to the bigger majority , which is pub nubs.. Competition will be Killed out of BF2 once and for all in 1.4 release.. (unless mods come out , like BF2PRO)
And what exactly makes you comp players better than us pubbers?? I spent 5 years in the same clan, ran a BF2 ladder and tournament, played in over 100 comp matches in BF2 and over 2000 in other games. Yet when I play BF2 or any other game I always play the same way, to win. So what is it exactly that makes you so great because you play competition?? Really I wanna see your logic, cause I hear this total load of crap all the time.
Im a good player because I am a good player, it has absolutly **** to do with my being in a clan or because I am competitive. If you think your better because you play competition then your a fool, 80% of the players in BF2 play competitively every time they join a server. Its always competitive.....unless your one of the 20% who really (and I mean no offense you know who you are) just suck, then its just for fun.
An "exclusive version", jesus I thought I had seen it all till I saw that arrogant bull.
BrotherEstapol
07-26-2006, 10:02 AM
I'd love to test this beta, cept there isn't any Aussie servers up yet, so so it's either play with a massive ping, or don't play at all.
Though on the plus side, our mod seems to work fine with 1.4...couldn't say the same about the past patches, so that's good to know. :)
HowieMandel
07-26-2006, 02:12 PM
I would test it, but it appears to be alittle more then simply installing it, hassle free when going to play 1.3.
Sorry, just seems like too much to do. I want to install. and play. Not make 2 directories, have 16 gig in info for one game........and all the other stuff.
Someone already posted something like this......but couldnt it have been made simplier as far as install and what not?
It would seem to me....that the core or the majority of players who's critique would be valued, are being skipped over. Because I feel the majority of noobs, as this community would call them........simply isnt going to test anything that might screw their game up, worse then it already is. And yes, i realize there is a read me.........but seriously....who read them? Really. I know you should.......but who does really? Certainly not the majority.
DogmanSlayer
07-26-2006, 03:47 PM
I have 200 members in an internal tournament at 21cwaaf.
I have asked/pleaded for a test server to be raised here in Australia so that we can help. {Colin - Crrrazzy asked about us}
Trying to join and beta test on a server with 250 ping is a bit much. And when I have gotten in, how can I beta test when you are surrounded by morons spawn camping or just stuffing around.
*Beta testing needs a controlled enviroment to be done effectively.
*Test each item, Logging what time, map and players tested.
*Find a bug, Strees test the item for more information, gaining as much information as possible.
*Report the above at regular intervals.
Please Dice/EA, allow us too help you.
I have even offered to host a non-ranked test server on our own windows box to be included but still No Aussie test server.
Sad :{
deathneo
07-26-2006, 04:55 PM
12) Commander is able to spot an enemy even without Scan or UAV. He should have spotting ability only while scan is in progress. When scan is over and info about enemy had disappeared, he should not be able to spot enemies until next scan/UAV.
Uh, you do know that commanders can zoom in all the way to spot enemies right? I don't think that's a bug.
And I was reading CGW and DICE said that they have made a 600% improvement to the server browser in BF:2142, WTF! We've been waiting for over a year for decent server browser and they decided to improve it in the next iteration of BF. They need to get there piorities right because right now Crysis is starting to look a hell of lot better right now. Of course a new Operation Flashpoint beats all of them :)
For those who don't know what Operation Flashpoint is, it's a true mans war game. None of that stupid 4 man super squad crap like GRAW. It's basically raw War where tanks are meant to be feared, and jumping idiots die in an instant.
zuiquan1
07-27-2006, 02:12 AM
the main problem with installing is that BF2 is so damn big that I cant afford to have 2 copies of it on my machine, It takes about 2 hours to fully copy the BF2 folder and then when Im almost finished it says I dont have enough room on my hardrive.(and no Im not going to just "clear up some space" I barely have enough room as is)
Having 2 full copies of BF2 destroys my computer and thats why Im not testing it.
|.SeSo.| Snake
07-27-2006, 07:36 AM
And what exactly makes you comp players better than us pubbers?? I spent 5 years in the same clan, ran a BF2 ladder and tournament, played in over 100 comp matches in BF2 and over 2000 in other games. Yet when I play BF2 or any other game I always play the same way, to win. So what is it exactly that makes you so great because you play competition?? Really I wanna see your logic, cause I hear this total load of crap all the time.
Im a good player because I am a good player, it has absolutly **** to do with my being in a clan or because I am competitive. If you think your better because you play competition then your a fool, 80% of the players in BF2 play competitively every time they join a server. Its always competitive.....unless your one of the 20% who really (and I mean no offense you know who you are) just suck, then its just for fun.
An "exclusive version", jesus I thought I had seen it all till I saw that arrogant bull. umm u would completly understand where i am coming from if u played competition in the TWL/CAL leagues.. which is the 2 top leagues for BF2 .. period.. and right now TWL/CAL both really hate where 1.4 is going.. it is purly going towards the pub nub community which is making the game crap.
Jonesey1141
07-28-2006, 12:32 AM
I went to the 1.4 Feedback Thread at http://forums.ea.com/mboards/thread.jspa?threadID=85812 and it says <table class="jive-info-message" border="0" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="0" width="350"><tbody><tr valign="top"><td width="1%">http://forums.ea.com/mboards/images/lock-16x16.gif</td> <td width="99%"> This thread is locked - replies are not allowed.
So why did I install and play it???
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CensoredByGod
07-28-2006, 03:55 AM
umm u would completly understand where i am coming from if u played competition in the TWL/CAL leagues.. which is the 2 top leagues for BF2 .. period.. and right now TWL/CAL both really hate where 1.4 is going.. it is purly going towards the pub nub community which is making the game crap.
Ummm I completely understand both Leagues as I have been playing on 1 or the other or both +others for more than 6 years in many games. Including All BF games,BFV POE Infantry included. YOu still havent yet explained why you believe that your better than a pubber. As I said the majority of players arent just passing time here ya know, when they load a map they immeadietly go into competition mode, sometimes as a team, other times lone wolf. As a matter of fact I have seen many clan players who just plain suck. For that matter having run competitions and a clan for many years It occurs to me that no one bitches about stuff as much as a clanner. Pubbers for the most part, play the game and "adapt" to the changes made. Clanners complain that they cant squad hop wins anymore (Which is essentially what every top team at your listed sites used to win matches, yes I know from experience so dont try to convince me otherwise), they took away your bunnyhopping and you cried, its always the same with your type. You think because your playing in a match everything should be for you, Bah.
So yes please explain what makes you better, telling me that those sites dont like the changes just mans you cant handle the changes and adapt to them like the average "pub nub" has to. Instead you whine about it more than any pub nub could ever hope to. Your assertion that the game is going to crap is debatable since theres still around 50-60 thousand players playing it. Actually the changes to the game are for the community as a whole and not just for you and your precious leagues.
Yoosty
07-28-2006, 05:04 PM
I downloaded both beta patches, the READ ME FIRST.doc was in beta 1 but not beta 2 zip file.
Beta Disclaimer
Greetings!
By taking part in this BETA you are accepting the risks related to the use of non-final code. EA & DICE are not responsible for any harm caused by the use of these files. EA will not provide customer support for any issues related to the use of any BETA related files. Any issues experienced during the use of these files should be reported to the EA Battlefield2 forums.
Helpful Tips:
Installation steps to protect your original BF2 install:
Beta Installation
1. Go to “C:\Program Files\EA GAMES”
2. Right click the “Battlefield 2” folder and choose “Copy”
3. Right click anywhere away from this folder and choose “Paste”
4. Once the copy has completed, you will have two folders named “Battlefield 2” and “Copy of Battlefield 2”
5. Install the patch 1.4 beta, then start the game as normal
When you wish to switch back to the release version of BF2, use the following steps:
1. Go to “C:\Program Files\EA GAMES”
2. Right click the “Battlefield 2” folder and choose “Rename”
3. Rename the folder to something like “Battlefield 2 Beta”
4. Right click the “Copy of Battlefield 2” folder
5. Rename the folder the “Battlefield 2”
6. Start the game as normal.
The shortcut will run BF2.exe from whichever folder is named “Battlefield 2” and both installations share the same registry entries.
Using the above steps will negate the need to completely uninstall and re-install whenever you wish to switch from the retail version to the beta version and vice versa.
This is not my first Beta I have tested for an online game. Most of my Testing has been with the Mechwarrior series game, starting with MW2 Mercs and with Mods for MW4 Mercs for MekTek {also was a Alpha Tester} and NBT HardCore.
In each of the later 2 Beta's, we had either a separate install or a switcher that allowed you to test the beat or play the regular game online.
When you had to update the Beta you did not have to uninstall the previous Beta, but add on like a patch.
I do believe this is one of the Major stumbling blocks on why most of us have not participated in the 1.4 patch beta. The point I am trying to make is, EA/Dice needs to make the 1.4 Beta proccess easier for all that play BF2 and the upcoming BF2142 Beta to install and update Beta game content.
Abominogg
07-29-2006, 08:23 AM
finally found a populated server, played Jalalabad, had a good time, no bugs to speak of. Was nice to not get wiped by jets and choppers. Granted, pilots in general are very skilled, anymore they are too skilled, and end up ruling and eventually ruining the round, so it was nice to have ground-only fighting.
Are there any US servers, btw?
Harmor
07-29-2006, 11:04 AM
They should had modified their installer so it keeps their previous copy AND add an icon to uninstall 1.40.
I could easily write it in a few lines in InstallShield.
SuperTyphoon
07-29-2006, 03:20 PM
They should had modified their installer so it keeps their previous copy AND add an icon to uninstall 1.40.
I could easily write it in a few lines in InstallShield.
Remember, this is EA, trying to challenege everything and make it as hard as possible to do the simplest things like creating a new directory for the beta.
RocketChef
07-29-2006, 05:40 PM
It's not as hard as it seems to create a own folder to backup your 1.3. But on the other hand it keeps the noobs away from using the beta ;). I for example didn't play 1.3 for weeks because of the gameplay bugs so it is not this hard for me to only be able to play 1.4 afterwards :). And 1.4 is inevitable so you can get used to it a bit sooner. But I also kept a copy of my 1.3 install, because the 1.4 final will patch against 1.3 or 1.x not against 1.4 beta 2 or beta 1. Why? Because even beta 2 full wasn't able to patch the 1.4 beta 1 install.
For me the installation of the beta is a lesser problem then the fact that there is no proper bugtracking system available.
Heavy552 AWG
07-29-2006, 06:39 PM
I tested both of the Novalogic's Joint Operations games (JOTR and JOE) along with hundreds of other testers. We were given the beta months before retail release and had a seperate installer for each version.
The beta was one or two generations ahead of the retail version that was kept seperate so that you could play on ranked servers. The NDA was the limiting factor between the current RETAIL and BETA versions.
Sure it took some disk space but both versions were kept totally seperate from the actual store bought copy already running on the machine. I had no problems what so ever during that experience.
I expected that this BF2 Beta to include a self installer sheild as well. I guessed wrong. My computer is already groaning with the weight of the retail BF2 on aging hard drives and I will NOT try to stamp out a new copy because I KNOW something will be FUBAR before it is completed.
Hate to rain on anyone's parade but I am protective of my poor bairns in that case under the desk.
The failure of EA/DICE to create a Seperate installer (Install sheild) and keeping the Beta totally seperate than the retail caused many players to find themselves unable to play after installing the beta.
People dont want to twist in agony thru reams of instructions and step by step across forum posts while reading that "OH It's SIMPLE, I HAD NOT PROBLEMS" from the multitudes of the more gifted computer people.
We simple phesants need a little TLC if you want stuff to work on our machine. One rule in the computer world "Make it idiot proof so that it will execute in face of user errors."
hemimotorz
08-12-2006, 10:56 PM
I played the beta for awhile. Prolly 5 daysish. I responsed on the EA forums(which break down every 10 minutes) As stupid as it may sound. If it's not ranked(which I am not sure if it is or not, part of the problem in itself.) people don't want it EA/Dice/Colin. I'm very sorry to see you guys think its a failure but hay you made your own monster didn't ya.
Lazza66
08-20-2006, 10:31 PM
12) Commander is able to spot an enemy even without Scan or UAV. He should have spotting ability only while scan is in progress. When scan is over and info about enemy had disappeared, he should not be able to spot enemies until next scan/UAV.
No. 12 there isn't a bug, it's just visual spotting.
Here are some more.
67. Friendly vs. friendly vehicle collisions, the strongest vehicle is blamed, but the fastest is nearly always at fault.
68. Players can leap from a vehicle at the last minute and the empty vehicle doesn't cause a tk, but just a suicide.
69. Snipers shouldn't be able to snipe friendly pilots.
70. Players walk past a burning wreck which explodes, unfairly giving the ex driver a tk.
71. Sometimes when reloading the animation plays out but the gun isn't reloaded, and the whole sequence is repeated with a successful reload second time around.
72. UAV and scan can spot prone motionless snipers, unfair.
73. Ability to throw useful items (ammo, medkits) nerfed when C4 chucking nerfed, put it back to v1.
74. (edit on 24/08/06) There are some invisible structures that helos and jets can smash into above the docks on Dragon Valley.
I won't be beta testing for DICE. They've basically told me to stuff off with all my ideas and bug reports for a year now, and they expect me to test new sh!t I don't want while refusing to fix bugs, WTF?
Tobacco
08-20-2006, 10:35 PM
72. UAV and Scan can spot prone motionless snipers, unfair.
I won't be beta testing for DICE. They've basically told me to stuff off with all my ideas and bug reports for a year now, and they expect me to test new sh!t I don't want while refusing to fix bugs, WTF?
No offence, but with advice like that it's no wonder they told you to "stuff off"
Lazza66
08-21-2006, 12:34 AM
No offence, but with advice like that it's no wonder they told you to "stuff off"
It's fair enough. The class based on stealth isn't stealthy, simple. Also sniper is my least favoured class, the suggestion is for fairness and reality only.
These aren't my suggestions either, they're a mix of bugs and needed changes.
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